Look at Ray Ray Run

Teams don't take long infield anymore - across the entire sport. Practice time has been cut in baseball over the past two decades - not just for the white Sox but for everyone. I'm sure a someone who is around the team more can verify that it's not as if other teams are out there for an hour and the Sox spend 5 minutes. It's why I asked what extensive infield is. Teams dont do that anymore.

Doesnt matter. Tim needs to stop with the errors. He's too talented defensively for it.

Ventura was the laziest manager in baseball. He was disinterested. Nothing would surprise me there. I dont know what "extensive infield" practice means.

If you think Jayson nix somehow forgot all the fundamentals that made him incredibly good, idk what to tell you. If you think it somehow went away because he didnt take infield or something, idk man. Nix was just a funny story that I'll never forget. Amazing what happened to that guy.

There is a larger problem but as a professional in anything, you are accountable for your own actions. While Rick continues to put those dopes on the field, it's still their fault that they're dopes. If that makes sense. It's the Sox fault for putting someone like palka out there but its palkas fault he sucks. No one elses.

I cant stand Rick - I edited my post to add that after the fact. He's far too old school for me but the guy understands the fundamentals of the game. He just doesnt understand basic math

Maybe the Sox just have bad luck too. The best story I remember for how did that happen... only the Sox... is Jayson nix. Nix was the BEST defensive 2nd baseman in the minor leagues. Legendarily good down there defensively. Guy comes to the Sox and was the worst 2nd baseman in baseball it felt like. It was hilarious and sad at the same time. Jayson Nix glove pulled a Chuck Knoblach on him and no one can/could explain it.

Rick Renteria didnt work his way up through the minor league ranks to big league manager without having the ability to teach young players skill development. I'm not a big fan of Rick - as hes far too old school for me - but the guy understands the fundamentals of the game. If I went to college and didnt know basic fundamentals I wouldnt play an inning. If I didnt know where to meet a cutoff, what base to throw too, which base to back up, and etc I wouldnt play. These guys know the fundamentals... well, maybe not palka lol.

My point is Tim anderson hasnt made 3 errors in 2 games because Ricky wasnt running enough infield. Tim made errors because he loses focus - he admitted such last year which makes this more embarrassing for him. The basic fundamentals of the game arent taught in the major leagues. Nick Madrigal will not play sloppy baseball and it's not because he was taught differently in the minors. Maybe the organization is poor at identifying that in players. That is possible but the players are still the dopes in that scenario too. The front office are just dope promoters at that point.

No, I just believe people blame coaches and non-players far too much. Do you think major league players need to be taught where to go to receive a cutoff? Or that a major league catcher needs to be taught to get down on balls and move your body in front of them? Or that he needs to be taught to come to a throw from a short stop who is too far out? As someone who played solely because I could play a decent center field, defensive fundamentals are on the player. You learn those things every step of the way and those arent drills you need to be taught in the big leagues. You learn from 5 through college. Coaches/organization job is to put a player in best position to succeed (see palka, as I said that is the organizations fault because palka is not a mlb outfielder and they shouldnt put him there) but Tim anderson making bone headed throws isnt the coaching staffs fault or the front office. Same goes for yoan, yolmer and etc. Those guys are big league players and big league defenders. Hell the same can be said for Castillo. People dont blame the players enough in professional sports. They should.

Jay would be fine in right.

Tim, reps wise, is a couple years younger than even his youthful age. This is a big year for Tim, but I always expected Tim to bloom a little later than others because of his lack of reps in high school and college so I'm not really worried about Tim yet. The flashes still mean more than the consistency in terms of his ceiling.

Fair enough. I'm just pointing out that if we were hanging out at the park in real life and this guy was there: It wouldnt be fun lol.

I'm not mad at palka - he is awful and wont get better. I have said countless times he has no business being on a big league roster. Anywhere. Tim frustrates me. I am a huge anderson fan but the focus has to improve. Tim missing the throw home, and not being far enough out to get the cut off and making the errors in game 1 just arent ok. He has the talent - he has shown it. It is all on him to keep the focus. Left field really doesnt have much difficulty to it. Eloy isnt any worse than manny, Carlos Lee, etc etc. You can be a bum and play their if your bat plays up. Problem is leury is not a + cfer and he's surrounded by two bad outfielders. Right field matters. They need to get rid of palka.

By all means, if that's the culture the forum is going for no big deal. Just my opinion and I'm not acting like it would be a loss for me to Stop posting because it wouldn't be. Just pointing out that constant negativity tends to chase people away.

Yes. Defense has been absolutely abysmal. Embarrassing really. Unacceptable for big leaguers to throw the ball around like that. Castillo has been slow behind the plate. Throws in from the outfielders have been off the mark. Fundamentals are not taught at the major league level. The players are to blame.

When all you do is complain about everything why continue to watch or follow? Idk about you but most people dont enjoy surrounding themselves with endless negativity. It's kind of a drag.

It was 50/50.

That was a hanger. Just underneath it.

When you spend hours a day complaining on a message board about the same thing over and over again, it gives the impression that it makes you miserable. If I spend all day complaining about my wife each and every day... but then say I love her and she makes me happy that wouldnt make much sense. The overwhelming negative posts that endlessly flow through an ingame thread about the offseason and etc is a massive turn off to the site imo. Want to complain about the team throwing the ball around the field like little leaguers in this game? Makes complete sense.

You're not forced to watch or follow though. That's what I don't understand. When things make me miserable I stop doing them.

Doesnt it get boring or depressing being so negative all the time?

Those arent strikes. Guy cant find the damn plate and ump is giving him a break. Just terrible.

Fry will be fine.

He's 30.