Look at Ray Ray Run

Swinging strike rates on strikes does not change statistically based on command. For example, robbie ray generates a lot more swinging strikes on strikes than Kyle Hendricks. One has horrible command but really good stuff (ray) and the other has great command with below average stuff (Hendricks).

Lack of control does not reduce your swinging strike percentage on strikes. It just doesnt. Giolito had one of the lowest k rates in baseball. I dont know how you can compare a guy who was absolutely dominating AAA to a guy who had an ERA north of 4.5 in AAA. Every professional baseball player has a lot of natural talent.

What does 2016 matter? He had a 4.5 ERA with a 1.41 WHIP in AAA with the Sox. Glasnow had ERA's under 2 with 13 k's per 9 and sub 1 WHIP's in AAA when he was struggling in the big leagues. His problem last year was not just throwing strikes. It was throwing quality pitches period. He generated no swings and misses. The two of them just can't be compared. Glasnow had to fix ONE thing to become a star. Giolito had to fix about 20.

Not sure your point. When I fuck up a financial analysis costing myself and my clients money I typically don't joke about it and smile/laugh in their face. They probably wouldn't like that. It's not exactly the same, and no one is asking him to get angry... controlling emotions is important, but making light of his lack of left field abilities doesn't sit well with me either.

I dont doubt it for one second. But the constant joking about mistakes drives me nuts defensively. Its very possible that's just his defense mechanism for making mistakes... but it still gets under my skin. After every play in the outfield he's involved in or around he messes around in some way. Its game so absolutely you should have fun - guy is living his dream - but sometimes a sense of urgency and seriousness isn't a bad thing.

No chance. Eloy is dreadful out there. He needs to improve. Taking good routes consistently is really important. He doesnt need to be fast or athletic - take good efficient routes, make the plays you're supposed to make and dont make any boneheaded plays. Eloy looks worse in the outfield than most every college outfielders

Yeah and I love that Eloy has fun and a happy personality but sometimes I do wish he'd take some things a little more seriously - like his defense. It needs a lot of work and I'm not a huge fan of the humor he tosses into his struggles.

The bat is simply a bonus. The Sox did their homework on McCann. His work behind the plate alone is incredibly valuable. Evaluating catchers value is still so far from being efficient. Turning around just one arm and bettering him into a star will keep you in the league for a decade. Personal catchers exist for a reason. The fact that he's hitting is just icing on the cake.

Glasnow and Giolito can not be compared at all. Everytime glasnow was sent down he was the best pitcher in the minor leagues - even as he struggled with command in the big leagues. Giolitos stuff got worse and worse as technology grew and he got to the point where he was flat out bad in AAA. This whole the stuff was there thing with giolito is nonsense. Glasnow got swinging strikes and strike outs - he just walked people. Giolito was fooling no one - generated bottom 1% swinging strikes and had a k-rate under 6.5 per 9. Those are horrible numbers that do not scream great stuff. His velocity was way down, his breaking stuff had no bite and he was confusing no one. Everyone in professional baseball has talent. Giolito was broken and envisioning anything near TOR outcomes was illogical at the time based on the data we had but the kid has proved everyone (but for Jack, kudos Jack) wrong so far. Good for him.

This. Ye had been trending down soooooo much and for so long. This wasnt a lack of progression this was flat out regression dating back to his final year in AAA with Washington. Tim and Yoan always had the signs and flashes - even with the struggles. There was star talent in there. Giolito didn't just look like he was bad, it literally looked like his stuff was just horrible as was his command and his composure. To rebuild all three in one off season goes so far beyond development.

McCann's work with the young arms can not be emphasized enough. He clearly does his homework and his pitchers trust him and he is getting results.

Crow tastes good when the reason I'm eating it is a good thing for the white sox.

Lol and I couldnt have been anymore wrong about giolito this year. I would have bet it was more likely he was out of baseball soon than a possible TOR starter.

Lol all these coop didnt do it posts are laughable - for how much blame most here places on coaches. As a player you will get opinions and advice from tons of people. Giolito got advice from a guy he trusted but the execution, observation and analysis had to come at the professional level. Guys will make tons of changes and tweaks in the off season - try new things. Cooper deserves as much credit as blame he was receiving for the lack of development. Ditching the sinker and dramatically changing his repertoire vs both lefties and righties was probably analytically driven from within the organization. So much goes into a players development from both inside and outside of organizations, it's why all the blame people pass onto coaches is funny and given all the praise is also funny. Coop deserves as much credit as you can give a pitching coach for a turn around like this. Even if his high school coach and him messed around with shortening his back arm swing and compacting his delivery.

Glad people have moved on from the "take gio out while he's doing good so his feelings dont get hurt" logic. Great game.

Sure if home runs dont count and he hits none. Add 25 home runs and he's up to 250 over 500 PA.

Literally none of this matters. He is not the first person in baseball history to be heavily pull oriented into the shift. That's why the shift exists. He also isnt 40% worse, in regards to pulling the ball, than every other pull oriented hitter who is shifted on in major league baseball. The difference between a hit and an out can be as small as a millimeter on the barrel. He actually has decent ev which makes his outcomes even more unlikely as EV correlates better to average than pull heavy sprays. He should expect your babip - even after shifting - to fall between 250-265 (250 would be low too). He's been unlucky regardless of what your eyes may tell you - it's just basic statistics. Go look at Joey Gallo. Extreme case. Every ground ball he hits is to the right side and he's a extreme fly ball hitter... his BABIPs before this year were 250.

Ftr he still sucks.

This is just wrong. Even with the shift your expected BABIP is 250-260. That means he's nearly 70 points off shift league average. Its more than one SD from the mean - that's very unlucky. So yes it absolutely should normalize.

When assessing someone's performance in an individual game, the outcome is all that matters. He went deep into the game and made a QS against historically good offense through this point.

Giolito is pitching so I imagine it'll be McCann

He had a 3.84 FIP in 2017. Greene is nothing more than a bridge reliever on any decent team. 3.84 is worse than colome has put up in 5+ years.

They compete. That's what having offensive talent will do for you. Compete and be dangerous. Going to be some real ugly losses throughout the year with the pitching inconsistency but their offense is what separates them from the other really bad teams who have bad pitching and bad offense.

Jason is that guy at work that ALWAYS did his homework and assignment and even went above and beyond... and when you showed up and didn't get everything done, he's happy to share his extra work with you to make sure you look good as well. He clearly prepares himself in a very professional manner and has received much respect for that.

Benetti does a really nice job.