Look at Ray Ray Run

Required for any contract formalization in baseball.

So in two posts I now need to take an econ course (I work in finance) and play baseball past middle school (I played in college). The internet is an amazing place. The only short stops who move to 2nd are those without the arm for third. There's a reason when most good SS's move (manny, a rod, maybe cal but his was age) they move to 3rd and not second. Also I asked you to quote a scout. Just one. You made a comment that scouts in the AL west said something so show me where. Tia.

I'm pretty well tuned into economics but thank you. I may have taken a few more econ and finance classes after high school. Just maybe though. A lot of maybes in your scenario. Semien wouldnt land a top 100 guy now. They teach your hindsight bias in high school too.

Of course it matters. Theres a massive difference between trading a guy that would go 1-1 for James shitty shields and trading a prospect that no other team would give more than 1.25 million too just 12 months earlier - also a 12 months in which he played no professional baseball.

I never said he was a hack. Hes a nice mlb player. Not having Marcus semien will have zero impact on the Sox future or rebuild and it will never cost them a playoff spot.

Ftr, I'm annoyed and frustrated but I'm here to talk about baseball and the season... not to b**** and moan all day about Jerry and Rick. That's pointless. I love the game not management.

they viewed him as a guy who wouldnt primarily catch but would catch. Maybe 60-70 games a year. Tyler flowers was said to be someone who couldn't catch either.

I liked semien. He's just not a guy to lose sleep over losing. They traded him to try and win and failed.

There are two option years at the end? Its 6 for 43 and then two options to bring it to 77. Only one free agent year though - you are correct.

Someone might want to tell Noah Syndergaard to stop throwing a sinker because apparently no one succeeds with them anymore.

Everyone seems to have scouts around baseball on speed dial at soxtalk.

Hes somewhere around 150th in baseball. He's not there as a first baseman who hits 220 I'll tell you that. So clearly some people think he can at least pass there to rank him in the top 150.

What scouts? Please just quote me one scout that has said this. Just one.

Lol well he wasnt since he was the 30th ranked international signee in his class and was not considered a serious prospect by anyone hence what he signed for. Lol at 1-1

Baez has horrible strike zone command in general. He strikes out a ton and never walks. The duration of his peak will be very short.

Well, this is 100% wrong but OK.

Behind. Lol. You are b****ing about losing Marcus Semien and Omar Navarez. It's nonsense.

It's not high at all. They just signed him for 8 years and 77 million. His 2 FA years alone, if he pans out, could be worth 60+ million.

Name on scout that thinks Moncada sucks now. SS isn't more closely aligned with 2nd than 3rd. Jesus Christ you make up and say the oddest things. The Scouting Community ranks Collins as a above average catching prospects in baseball but if you want to keep spewing complete and utter nonsense go right ahead.

Yes, Semien had one decent year. He was a nothing prospect - once again - that the Sox helped develop into an MLB player. Losing him has no impact on the team today, and is not something any other fan base would dwell on.

Turned into? Only White Sox fans b**** about losing Marcus Semien and Tyler Flowers.

Alex Bregman really wasn't much better than Moncada in his first taste of the big leagues. And why is Vlad on the list? He's never even seen a MLB pitch and you have already put him into a class with Soto and Acuna. My goodness. 50% of his defensive value lol. 3rd base grades out as a more important defensive position than 2nd slightly so no... he didn't just lose 50% of his value.

So a back up catcher is a "good talent?"] We'll agree to disagree.

Yes, if there two top catching prospects suck they'll have to look elsewhere. I didn't realize that was news. You know who wasn't the answer at catcher going forward? Omar Navarez.

Moncada was a league average player at 22/23. In what world has a lot more gone wrong than right with him? He has holes. He needs to fix the holes, but for the floor of a player to be league average is OK with me.