Look at Ray Ray Run

Of course the Sox have to say this. It's not official. Limited partners haven't agreed to anything nor has the deadline elapsed.

Yes. I wouldn't want to be the majority owner of any company that I didn't control the decision making within.

The athletic article said it - quote is on the first page. And what you're saying really depends on the structure. Limited partners don't really have any power in this case. So Jerry could certainly diluted shares without diluting value - especially given that he's coming in at 1.8 billion.

February 22nd. A day that will live in infamy for sox fans everywhere. Congratulations gents. It's just a matter of time now.

The diluting of shares means he's in for more shares regardless of whether limited partners sell or not (which would add cash flow). Also the below part doesn't really align with him waiting even five years for a team. The Twins believed Ishbia was sincere in his pursuit because Reinsdorf wasn’t planning to sell the White Sox, according to a person with knowledge of the sale process. A person briefed on the situation told The Athletic that Ishbia held meetings in December with officials, community leaders and potential minority owners in Minnesota to express his interest in purchasing the team

We're White Sox fans man, he'll set the Guinness Book of World Records for oldest human on earth.

I'd need a lot more information on Sox structure obviously, but in the article it says they're getting a chance to sell and if they don't their shares will be diluted. Meaning ishbia is coming in no matter what and at a 1.8 billion valuation. Someone in this thread said in 2021 there was equity moved at 900 million valuation. That increase in investment valuation alone increases the Sox leverage in obtaining funding/backing on a stadium. Quote: Reading that quote, i could be misreading it or it could be written poorly. If it's not that, then nvm.

I certainly think stadium funding is a possibility here too but ishbia would still need something to give up buying the twins. Worst case he gets no control until Jerry passes but helps sponsor a stadium. Since we're sox fans, maybe we should expect the latter

I think we'll get an an announcement if the board changes and Ishbia acquires majority share. The most telling part to me is the 1.8 valuation. This could be about stadium funding as well, but also makes a lot of sense if the 1.8 point was where the share holders would be willing to sell out at for him to acquire control. Time will tell.

I think he probably still hangs on to his shares until he's gone but who knows.

I find it hard to believe that Ishbia will just wait for Jerry to die, unless as someone says there's known health issues. Why risk sitting here as a minority owner for another 15 years with no say in operations, spending and building the franchise value.

Jerry doesn't have a majority stake as much as he has majority share. In a perfect world, he doesn't have to sell, Ishbia buys out majority of minority stake to become majority owner, Jerry sells the rest post death.

Caufield, sox give out some record contracts that fail i promise I won't be posting about how he ruined the White Sox.

All billionaires are terrible - no such thing as a good one - but at least the Ishbia brothers have shown a commitment to spending and making a splash in the NBA. Additionally they absolutely would not move the team from Chicago. They like to spend money on toys and hopefully will be big spenders in baseball.

Lol Jimmy, this is a hilarious comment. The White Sox have like 4 major league caliber players on their team. Guys that have no pedigree or sustainability in the league will not bad mouth a veteran and certainly won't speak vocally against teammates. They're just happy to be there. When clevinger has been elsewhere with actual MLB players, he only got along with the two guys everyone else hated. But hey, Brooks Baldwin hasn't ripped him so he's good to go.

I've got Robert at 3.8 WAR in 135 games.

The only thing you feel poorly about, on a team projected to lose 110+ games, is the bullpen? Crazy.

Ive got to say, poppy and jerksticks were two of the most optimistic sox fans and board posters over in my time here. The fact that the fan base has lost guys like that fully is awful. And those two used to drive me crazy with their optimism and I considered myself an optimist!

If caufield was born 40 years later, the world would think he's an AI LLM chatbot.

Of course it would. The White Sox need to field a professional roster. Having big leaguers on your team is a good thing. I'm not sure where fans lost that idea.

Who the heck wants them to suck worse than last year?

You keep saying this as if it proves some point. The A's are spending at that level because MLB decided spending below that level is too embarrassing and sad. Even for the A's. White Sox said hold my beer.

I don't want to keep going back and forth and I haven't dug in this deep, but you just clearly miss the big picture. It's really hard to lose 20 more games. It wasn't a shell problem, it was Getz. Terrrible bullpens are how you end up with historic badness. Getz work there was next level bad. Getz traded Bummer for 5 players, 4 of which played in the bigs for 215 combined games. They combined accumulated .8 fWAR which was less than Bummers 1.1 in 56 games. From a cumulative perspective you're talking about a -4 win impacting trade. 12/28 he releases Declan Cronin who goes on to have a 1.3 fWAR season. He Signs Tim Hill who they release. Signs John Brebbia. Had jesse Chavez in camp and released him and he goes on to have a nice year in Atlanta. Then he targeted Steven Wilson in his prized trade as the bullpen piece and he was not pitchable. I'm ignoring everything but for the bullpen where Getz easily lost 15 games last year alone and he did it entirely to himself.

As Kenny called it when they moved Lee for Pods, it was a reshuffle. Their offense, while incredibly powerful was stagnant. They changed the build up of the team and it worked. I won't stand for the shade being thrown at the '05 sox. That was no fluke and those guys were dudes and that team was built beautifully.

You insinuated that the White Flag trade, as it was known, helped lead them. Caruso had that one year he had 700 infield hits, but then he was done. Howry was trade for Frank Francisco. Keith foulke was a guy no doubt, but they traded three MLB starters for 1 closer lol and that's why they succeeded??