poppysox

I agree...it's all about the pitching.

It is a shame that people who are all fans of the same team so often get involved in rather nasty dialogue.

I have used 16 M as how I would value him but I realize it is subjective. Like you...I see no reason to help Boston out unless there is some reason to do so. Ryu and Kuechel are probably more reliable at the same money as Price. We need money or players to equalize the deal.

Probably a #3 starter at a #1 price tag. If Boston wants salary relief they need to except the fact the pot needs to be sweetened by them. Their pitcher is overvalued by approximately 50M.

Somewhere between those two extremes is probably where a good GM needs to land.

I thought that was determined he would need some Charlotte time to find himself.

100% Correct!

In my opinion the WS have not stood pat. Opening day has Grandal & Mazara and a few weeks later Robert, Madrigal and at ASB or sooner Dunning, Kopech and Rodon perhaps. If no other changes occurred I think we would be looking at roughly 84 or so wins. Two #3-5 starters and two good not great relievers push that number of wins to 90. I admit this isn't the sexy offseason we all hoped for but we're in pretty good shape even without landing a whale.

Makes me mad if RH didn't hang up the phone.

This doesn't sound like you Orlando. Please...don't go over to the dark side.

Price is being paid 32 M for the next 3 years. If RH & KW think his actual value is 16 M per year...Boston needs to ship 48 M in either $ or players. Doesn't seem all that hard to find a way. Actually both sides should be motivated. Sale on the other hand has a brand new extension. I presume that extension has some type of no trade clause. That probably would hinder him coming in this direction.

Our 2nd baseman is not married.

Not at all necessary. This is about us getting pitching and Boston shedding high cost of pitching. Take away half the dollars the Price & Sale are using up...done deal.

Correct. That is how I read the situation.

Amen!

That might be an overpay. Boston wants salary relief more than players coming back. Need some minor league name or two but mostly want so send as little money as possible along with price.

I would feel safer if Fulmer & Fry weren't in the bullpen so as not to temp Ricky to use them.

Moncada & Robert are both 5 tool players and Timmy is just short of that. When is the last time the Sox had 3 players like that in the same lineup.

Price & Benintendi + 26 M for Fulmer & Fry...done deal.

Bless you!

I'm not knocking Snell as much as voicing my displeasure with getting rid of Madrigal who I see as integral to the next 10 + years of WS baseball.

Deflecting all the b****ing about Mazara.

I don't think we have the pieces. We are in the strange position of having very good top 50 guys like you mention and very thin after that. Guys like Walker was are not much to bait the hook with and Kopech, Madrigal, Robert and Vaugh types are more valuable to us and our needs. Madrigal & Vaughn plus would be similar to the fleecing we gave the Cubs for Q. Our best trade affordable trade chips are probably McCann, Fry, Fuller and Rodon... maybe Colome. I would part with Vaugh + a couple of names I mentioned. That wouldn't be enough to get it done IMO.

Wouldn't take two meetings to say no to that.

Nice!