cwsox

I know you are not trying to get on me - just that you were right on that one and I wanted to acknowledge when I f*** up, and apologise for it -

unsportsmanlike to cubsuck yesterday???? - there is a real probability that is true. I have discussed that with him and apologised. I stand by everything that I said on the larger issue - just that cubsuck (and Ross) were not what I was really trying to get at. But Steve, I will not disagree that cubsuck (and Ross) caught s*** from me that he (they) did not deserve and I have told cubsuck I am sorry, tried to say something to that effect in that thread with my last post, and I say it here.

I can think of a lot of worst threads ever and Tex makes some good points, the spammers ball thread was hardly one of the worst ever. The call was made and I stand by Jas's decision. But piling on is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. And what is junk - to me the hot chick pics to me are soft porn and below the puerile level of junor high. to me the celebrate with massive posting the "milestone" posts is junk. to me the posts about the bulls or hawks to do not belong here - there are other boards for that. to me - I could cite other threads I thought were junk or dumb. but you know what - that is all just to me and that other people enjoy those things, my opinion is just purely personal and why should I feel rip into other people's stuff like that? I say enough, we all say enough - the more I learn to just ignore what I feel meaningless because there are some who find fun and community in what I don't care for - that's the cool way to go, to me. In fact, texsox's spammer's ball was just a way of really pointing out how meaningless some of the thrads are - it was brilliant guerilla theatre. it is also off season and people are out of school for a few weeks and it is a time to be silly and to play and thus because of the time of year of year, we will see an increase in "meaningless posts" which will end when soxfest and ST arrive or when a trade is made if one ever is - so since this is the season for this, why get out of shape? Now past experience tells me Elton John was right that saturday night's alright for fighting so I am bailing out of here because the worst fights ever had on soxtalk were on saturday nights and I don't want a piece of this at all. Go to it everyone who needs to...

Tell your father that he and all victims and survivors of Shoah are remembered always by some Christians who have made Shoah the center of their lives, knowing exactly who was responsible, calling our own faith to account for what it did, what it allowed, what it countenanced, what it overlooked, what it intentionally ignored. The reminder that antiSemitism continues is very apt. This board is one place where I have never seen any expression of antiSemitism. Perception depends in large part on one's sensitivities and filters - I would be interested if you see it different. To me, there are very good people who belong to soxtalk, including everyone who has posted in this thread, as I see it.

cubssuck, we may have in part a miscommunication here - if the assignment was to parrot back something with no thinking involved, then that is the worst type of busy work that teaches nothing that can be assigned and I would consider that worthless indeed if that was the point of the early part of the thread, it was not clear at all to me, which may be my mis-reading, or it wasn't expressed clearly for those of us who did not have the assignment and that information - you have always been a good poster - know that and peace out

Chicago conceived, born, and raised and I knew Black Hawks players as a kid but never cared for th Hawks at all, Wirtz was an asshole and I saw that at age 5 I went with the Wings by default when I moved to Michigan and hey, the owners care - and the fans I know are cool too now some of my friends despise the Wings and I don;t despise the Hawks, I just pity their fans because managemnet and ownership is so inept it makes JR look ept

What was the 8th highest price paid unknowingly for a ball???? In fact, how does one buy a ball unknowingly? "Oh look what they put my shopping bag, Prudence, a baseball and they charged me $107,000 for it!" Now if that was the 8th highest price ever known to be paid for a ball, I could figure that out... (smiley of me, ducking, awaiting the response...)

I do care what the score is. But whatever the score is...

This is great news and every team needs a loopy good guy like Kelly on it anyway

I believe the phrase that was au courant for some was "lawn jockey" but as you know I was not in that number - I am pleased that CLee has been signed to this contract - if every player improved their play from season to season as much as he has improved his the past several years, I'd be wearing WS WS t-shirts (although I stiull wish he would wear his sunglasses over his eyes and not on his hat for day games... tell him, will ya?)

I find it personally very frightening that I am agreeing with so much lately.

1. That is total f***ing bulls***, danman. Offensive language or mocking the suffering of others and defending that by saying "well just because it isn't 'pc'" is a cop out and an excuse for nothing. In the light of all of our material abundance as we are on the cusp of secular vactions or meaningful Holy Days where in our abundance we will gift ourselves with more, to refer to the sufferings of the victims of Holocaust as if that is an incovenience in one's life, what is wrong there is very apparent. Especially when a root of human suffering is in lessening or making light of the pain of others by saying to recognize it is to be "pc." That is immoral or ignorant take your pick. And too young? Anyone posting here is playing in the big leagues. And there are things that my 4 year old grandson knows, or is being taught. No one posting here is too young. 2. Let's see, calling people "retarded" or "homosexual" or whatever is not ridiculing, but calling others to account for that is ridicule. Let's see, calling people "retarded" or "homosexual" for whatever reason is not ridiculing, but calling others to account for that is ridicule. Let's see, calling people "retarded" or "homosexual" for teaching the Holocaust is not ridiculing, but calling others to account for that is ridicule. In actuality the original post by Ross was a very excellent poem. What followed stunned me. Maybe it is because when I was a child I knew that people being arrested and stripped and murdered because they were Jewish was what was offensive; being asked to learn about that was not offensive. On November 30th the Chicago tribune ran a special section on Sonia Reich, an elderly woman now, a survivor of Holocaust. The special supplement spoke of how her family was among the tens of thousands herded into the local ghetto, how families were marched down the street to their executions, how one local gravesite contains 30,000 bodies and that is only one local execution place, how people were buried alive, how Sonia saw her mother burned alive, her father killed, her brother killed... Is it "pc" to think that was the most important writing in the Trib that day, far more important than any sports news?

exactly right those who do not understand the purpose of the union do not know their baseball history if there had been a union in 1919, there is no thrown world series and our Sox history is all different Baseball owners operated as feudal lords and would do so again if allowed because in one case this week one deal did not go through - doersn't look to me even that the union had anything to do with that, Selig the Commissioner stopped the talks

Agreed

the game was never ever about money now was it, not in the beginning, not in 1919, never until just now, damn it all

Ross, I was going to congratulate you on the fine job with the poem but then I saw replies and the other comments by those who are sick, just sick of having to learn about hate in human history and how affllicted your suburban lives are by these unwarranted intrusions into your lives Mentally challenged people (the "retarded" such as my daughter and my older sister) were among the first the be taken into the camps and gassed and burned in the ovens'' and after the Jews, the next largest population of people but into the camps and killed were the "homosexuals" and then I was going to say something about the nature of the comments of the two of two but then I realized - how wrong it was that your school asked you to read one of the classic books of the 20th century how wrong it is that your pursuit of boobs and c*** and ass (whether in pictures or in pseduo real life) was interrupted by education how horrible that really important issues like the cubs sucking was interrupted by reading about reality you poor boys, your lives interrupted by education into hate, education in history, education in the genocidal attempt to destroy an entire race of people - two races actually when you consider the gypsies - as well as whole classes of people such as gays, the mentally challenged, communists, trade unionists, clergy of ther Confessing Church and other church boides who opposed Hitler, and in fact any person who opposed genocide and was a part of the Resistance how selfish of the school to ask you to have to read something that wasn't sex or sports how really retarded and homosexual of the school to expect that as you await the thousands of dollars of Christmas presents that you will be getting from your parents and grandparents and others, that you are asked to think about all of those who had everything taken away from them and left nearly naked, with nothing, to work as slave labor in the camps before their extermination how utterly wrong of the school to ask that you have compassion on the victims of hate, on 6 million Jews and maybe another 6 million others executed by being gassed, or shot, or starved to death, or in whatever way, when that interferes with your so very important lives I hope that as you await your material possession being increased with gadgets and toys and as you obssess on sex and sports and maybe even as you go to Church to sing about Peace on earth and about Jesus who would have been killed in the camps had he been born in the 1939, I hope that no where ever again your so very important lives will be disturbed with images of the suffering, of the dead, of the victims, of hate, of human intolerable cruelty to other humans, of the effects of language on thinking, and meek acceptance with evil and those who would rather look away than acknowledge the reality of other people suffring around them because sports and girl body parts that you want to look at and fondle, those are far more important than reality how selfish of the schools to ask to you to feel and think and know and have an intelligent response when it is just such a disturbance in your pursuits of pleasure - I feel for all of you - how selfish it is for them to ask you to be informed of how 6 million Jews and 6 millions others came to be slaughtered in the camps in the Nazi era, how utterly selfish of the school - I feel for you so much - If I were you, I would go to the school board and ask them to leave you alone with their cruel demands on your lives and minds - how do you poor children bear it? edited by cwsox 12-20-03 because some things were clarifed and thus other things not needed to be said; the first line of the post reminds that Ross did a fine job on the poem

great sig, where did you get it??????????????????

and me who banned the troll under two of his two names and identified his two ip addresses with which he is using two more names - what am I, chopped liver?

the troll has been banned twice under two different names. He has one more name registered at soxtalk. I have the ip address. Sop far nothing troll like has been posted under the thrid name. The moment that happens, the ip address gets banned. My thanks to ss2k3 for closing these troll threads and giving me the infor I needed to track the troll out.

cali, I am deeply sorry sometimes great art gets lost - but ah, I remember it well!

what is the other name and is it a troll thing, the posts with that name?

he gawn

I knew what you had done, didn't know why, now I do - you were making good calls and I trust your judgment - I am curious as to the 2 other identities he has - and have they been trolling too?

how'd you know he was a troll in the other thread? PM me if it is better to talk that way