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It would be interesting to see where the geographic center of the current fan base is; I guarantee you it is no where near 35th and Shields. It may have been in the early 1900's to the late 1980's, but not a chance now. Since the Sox located in the southside in 1900 the population, jobs and wealth have all shifted elsewhere.

If they had invested the $20 million in a S&P 500 index fund in 1981and forgotten about it instead of buying the Sox they would have approximately $1.6 billion in that fund currently. And would have had greater liquidity and less hassle. Obviously we don't know how much the investors have kicked in since then and how much they may have pulled out, so it's not a perfect comparison. But from an investment standpoint, nothing spectacular which would lead me to believe profitability and cash flow is nothing dramatically above average.

If this Sox are interested in Lopez he must be involved in human trafficking or running a meth lab. The Sox haven't covered that yet.

Chip Caray just jumped from the Braves to the Cardinals.

If it is crowded at least Sox fans will finally realize how difficult it is to "have a seat at the table" and appreciate our management a little more.

I thought there was a huge difference between his postgame press conferences in 2021 and 2022. Regardless of how you felt about him in 2021, the 2022 version of TLR clearly was something different.

He's not toast now, but it looks like teams think he might be in five years or so. Nobody expects to be getting full value at the end of these contracts. But I imagine they expect to at least have a functioning replacement level player.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

He actually had an ankle joint from a cadaver transplanted in. It was that bad.

I'd be interested in knowing how the insurance companies are viewing the longer term contracts we are seeing. I think everyone is assuming that during year 9-10-11 etc of these contracts it is unlikely the player will be worth the salary due to age and wear and tear. It may be better for the player to be seriously injured and have the insurance company pay the majority of the salary at that point. So are insurance companies ever willing to insure the entirety of a 10-13 year contract on anyone? Or just players that have a 100% clean health at the time of signing? Or do they top out at 5-6 years and leave the remaining risk to the team?

It would have been interesting, as Charlie Finley would have been here and he only held on a few more years as owner. He was negotiating a deal to move the team to Denver with Marvin Davis, same as Veeck was rumored to be considering at the end of his ownership of the Sox. As Finley was trying to sell earlier than Veeck, wonder if the Tribune would have ended up owning the Chicago Athletics instead of the Cubs, and how that partnership would have changed history.

My apologies.

If his health allows I think it would be weird for him to not stop by and visit at some point, since he lives there. I assume he built some relationships with some of the players the last two years. Spring training is usually fairly casual, lots of people pass through and visit. Now if he gets a formal role that is different and wrong, but no one is saying that. This is a non event.

Yeah, even if the Dodgers had worked out their stadium issue with Moses, the Giants were leaving anyway. Think I heard Minneapolis had been on their radar for a few years before they agreed to move west with dodgers.

Put it in Hartford. Wealthy area, would pull revenue away from both NY and Boston. I know the NHL didn't stick there, but that was a different sport many years ago.

The attempted Addison move was just after the South Loop deal fell through. The residents rejected a referendum basically blocking that move. That land currently houses Dave and Busters among others.

Moses was a major problem for them, but neither team was doing well financially at the time either. No doubt NY could support two teams, the market is much larger than Chicago. Three teams was probably a stretch, particularly sharing a market with the Yankees in the 1950's.

There is a lot of truth to this. Many don't remember the late sixties and seventies when the Sox were barely solvent. Moves to Milwaukee with actual games played there, moves to Seattle and Denver almost happened. They stopped firing fireworks after homeruns for a while because the supplier cut them off for non payment. Debartolo was thought to be a savior but was rumored to be thinking of New Orleans as their future home. In the early 1900's NY, Boston, Philadephia, St Louis Chicago all had more than one team. Chicago somehow was the only market to maintain both teams from that era. We used to have two NFL teams, one moved. The fact that the Sox and Cubs have survived in one market for as long as they have is truly remarkable. JR should get a lot of credit for this, he made unpopular threats and moves that eventually secured the Sox. At this point, and probably for the last 15 years or so he has been unwilling or unable to do what is now necessary to win. Recognizing this isn't being a cry baby, its facing reality. JR probably saved the Sox for Chicago and should be regarded as such. But he is not capable of running a team in this era.

This is factually incorrect. The Sox agreed to the South Loop stadium, the city wouldn't do it unless the Sox and Bears agreed to it. The Bears were the ones that blocked it. STADIUM WINS OVER SOX, BUT NOT BEARS – Chicago Tribune

Sounds like the upper level group areas at the UC.

structural alterations to two (2) existing 500 level locations at guaranteed rate field for a new outdoor bar with premium seating skybox. work to include demolition of 8 rows of seats, rearrange entry and exit stairs, structural modifications as needed with minor electrical and plumbing as per plans.

Isn't most of the WBC played during the normal spring training season anyway? Do they really get that much more playing time than they would playing meaningless games for the Sox? Players get hurt in spring training in normal seasons. Bet Robin Ventura would rather have been playing a WBC game somewhere when he wrecked his ankle playing for the Sox in Sarasota, or Eloy jumping the wall at Glendale.

Everybody seems to include the move to pay TV on their "reasons I hate JR" list, but yes, Einhorn was running the show when it came down to media rights as that was his strong background. I assume the move was also supported by JR. EE was way more visible than JR the first 5 years or so of their ownership IIRC.

I met Jack once and asked him for an autograph and he spent thirty minutes talking Sox baseball with me (he was exclusively Cubs at that point). Wonderful man and he clearly never lost his love of the Sox.

We had one TV in the house that could get UHF, and it was the best and newest (color and everything!). If someone else was using it, no Sox for me.