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I know times have changed, but its kind of funny that Sox fans, some of whom are still bitching and whining that the Sox moved from free over the air to pay tv 40+ years ago are now bitching and moaning that they are going to be available over the air free again.

My recollection is that the Marquee rollout had very limited carriage at first, and it didn't really get resolved until games were scheduled to be aired. At least this has some option to actually watch the games if your streaming/cable option isn't negotiated yet. I think the Dodgers had this issue for a couple of years. So this couuld be a long term issue.

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For me it's not really the money, it's the time investment. Between driving to the park, back home and the game itself its 4 or 5 hours to watch non competitive boring baseball. Lower ticket prices don't fix that. There are usually 9 or 10 games on MLB TV that are more interesting without the time commitment.

I think the reality is that most Sox fans never heard Harry when he was still sharp, during his St Louis and White Sox days. I'd even include his first 5 or 6 years with the Cubs. After that he became a caricature of himself, the goofy drunk uncle that comedians imitated. Harry and Jimmy would never get a job nowadays on any MLB team. Tough assignment for Schriffen to have to announce this team his first year, but he just doesn't seem to have it anyway. I don't feel like Hawk was honest with us 95% of the time either.

I'd support it even if ISIS financed it.

And to further the point- MLB relies on the ability to extort hundreds of millions of dollars from government whenever they want a new stadium. Not just the Sox, almost every team in MLB has played this game and will play it again. If they reward the cities that don't give in to the extortion with an expansion team and retaining the name as if nothing ever happened they lose their most powerful leverage in future negotiations with other teams and cities. If the Sox are gone, they are gone, and Chicago is a one team town.

The Bud Light boycott is a different animal. I like beer, and it's as simple as grabbing a pack of Miller Lite or Coors Light instead if I choose to boycott Bud Light. Still get to drink beer. No additional cost or effort involved. I like to go to baseball games. If I boycott the Sox I would need to go to Cubs or Brewers games, both much more inconvenient and expensive. As annoyed as I am at JR I am not going to let him take away something I really enjoy.

Bring back Don Kessinger. He is the oldest living former Sox manager.

Navy Pier draws 9 million visitors, so its not out of the question that a well done entertainment district could draw 5 with a guaranteed 2 million at least for baseball.

Pecota had the Sox at 78 wins last year.

A major reason I have always preferred the Sox to the Cubs is the fact that Wrigley Field is a pain in the ass to get to. Different people have different preferences.

Only if they shared a stadium with the Bears. The Sox agreed to the deal . The Bears rejected it.

I wonder if pitcher objections may have blocked this idea. Wins and saves would be more evenly distributed (kind of randomly) among the pitchers. If this was back in the 80's or 90's those stats were more important in free agent and arbitration negotiations. The top starters and best reliever would see those numbers drop compared to the league. No single pitcher is getting 15-20 wins in that scenario.

Gay slur on air. Depends on your definition of forgiveable. I think most things less than murder are forgivable and second chances are awesome. But the Sox are not in a position to be the team to give him a second chance at this momemt IMO.

Jim O'Donnell's column a couple of days ago referenced Thom Brenamann as "on the board as a longshot" hire to replace Jason. Nothing would be more White Sox than that. Jim O’Donnell: Sports talk radio in Chicago – is it still there? (dailyherald.com) paywalled I believe

Let's quit talking about Oakland getting an expansion team as if they got screwed by the move. Of the 56 years they played in Oakland they were in the top half of AL attendance only 11 times. And most of the other 45 years they weren't even close. 25 of those years they were in the bottom 3. They won 3 consecutive World Series, one of the greatest teams in history in the early 70's. The year they won the third WS they were 11 out of 12 AL teams in attendance. Say what you will about John Fisher, the problem existed long before he arrived. Its kind of a miracle they have lasted as long as they have.

In some industries it is not uncommon for someone being interviewed for a job to discuss the job with their predecessor if possible. Wonder what Bennetti is telling the industry.

Probably a workable solution. They have made runs at the Bears in the past. I would think they could do it financially and politically, don't know if the will is there for NWI.

If the Sox move, I doubt there is even a chance of them being replaced by an expansion team. In old days it made sense to have multiple teams in a single market because ticket sales were the main revenue stream. Not the case anymore as baseball is better off financially by having a larger number of MLB markets for its current revenue generators. Historically only one dual team city market that lost a team got an expansion team, NY, and even that one didn't restore it to three teams it had for the previous 58 seasons. I don't believe Nashville is his first choice, but I believe he is making it a strong candidate just to be able to strong arm Illinois. And I don't believe Illinois will cave this time. Illinois is not the same state it was in the late 1980's. No chance that meeting was intended to be a "secret". Also Nashville is going to take any team they can get. It won't matter if the Sox are 90 game losers or 90 game winners at that point. Them holding out for an expansion team over the Sox isn't going to happen, as getting an expansion team when only two are likely is a complete crap shoot.

As much as I feel sorry for A's fans, maybe its time for Oakland to accept that it is not a major league sports town and try to develop a thriving minor league sports scene. Build a nice 10,000 seat ballpark and try to get a AAA or AA team. I see a lot of people complaining about MLB on this, but the reality is Oakland has had teams in all four major sports and couldn't make it work for any. Its not just baseball and the A's have been talking about moving from there for 40 years.

Then why did the Dodgers dump Vin Scully when he wanted to do national games and the NFL? Oh wait.......never mind.

While I will miss him the bigger deal to me is that this is yet another manifestation of a Sox organization that is truly terrible in all of its facets. I do have some hope, however, that the Sox can identify a talented minor league PBP guy, just as they did with Benetti, and give him a chance on the MLB level. Unfortunately, the way this team is currently operating, they seem likely to f*** this up in the same manner that they have virtually every decision in recent years.

His tweets, which I assume he writes himself, are usually cryptic and appear to often have hidden meanings. If I hated him, I wouldn't be following him on twitter for years to know this. His tweets have been far and few between this year, however. I follow his tweets in an effort to understand him. He has never said anything remotely like this in his tweets, which often appear hostile/angry. I have no idea if he signed off on this as based on the writing style it was clearly written by an agent who has financial interest in making a free agent look good. In other words, this statement is generic meaningless BS.

As someone who follows his twitter account, I can assure you that he had absolutely nothing to do with writing this.