South Side Hit Men

I can’t see Nick Sabin standing pat with this team if there was a CFB trade deadline. Roll Damn Tide

Really enjoyed the article. Hard to imagine even a 1980s Jerry Reinsdorf hitting ground balls to a first baseman "day in and day out" for development. Many of us have ancestors beyond ourselves who hold grudges of current and former owners/GMs/managers. My grandfather went to his death bed a year shy of forty years after 1959 never forgiving Al Lopez for not starting Billy Pierce in the 1959 World Series. Billy pitched four innings of shutout ball over three appearances. Veeck was trying to buy the AL California expansion franchise after the 59 pennant. Hank and Bill operated more like Kenny Williams in terms of go for it every year. We all have our own perspectives, but would say Bill Veeck did a lot of good wherever he went, won a WS and a Pennant over five seasons in Cleveland and his first stint here, and saved the Sox from moving to Seattle. Also shifted the fan base interest back to the South Side during both of his stints, with his teams drawing nearly double the Cubs in 1959-60 & the late 1970s. Would say Charles Comiskey had by far the greatest influence in terms of ownership, even setting aside his decision to move his AA team from Minnesota and his formation of the American League. Jerry Reinsdorf had the second greatest influence, in terms of longevity, influence on the game itself (mostly bad) and the team (good - Kenny, to some extent Ozzie) and bad (Sportsvision, Tony, Carrots for Fans, Harry Caray, White Flag, his disgust of fans, Tampa flirtation, etc.., The OG Virginia McCaskey Owner Archetype had the third greatest influence, Charles' daughter Grace Comiskey (Ownership 1939-1956), leaving the team to her kids Charles Comiskey II and Dorothy for a few years before Dorothy sold her shares to Veeck in 1958. Those teams by and large sucked, same as the Bears since Halas' death. Would rank Bill Veeck's two "Grover Cleveland-ish" tenures as the forth greatest White Sox ownership influence, primarily for keeping the Sox in Chicago for 1976 at the behest of Andy McKenna but also for the success of the 1959 and 1977 teams.

The Sox would have won three World Series, perhaps 1-2 more in the early 1920s, if it weren't for the Black Sox scandal. My rankings, Best to Worst (Best Season(s)) Three Distinct Tiers (1-5; 6-10; 11-13) Kenny Williams (2001-2012) 1014-931 .521 World Series (2005) & American League Central Title (2008) Charles Comiskey (1901-1914) 1115-968-48 .534 World Series (1906) Harry Grabiner (1915-1945) 2285-2408-27 .487 World Series (1917) & American League Pennant (1919) - Screwed by Black Sox & Great Depression Hank Greenberg (1959-1961) 267-203-3 .568 American League Pennant (1959) Ron Schueler (1991-2000) 817-734-3 .527 American League West (1993) One (2000) & A Half (1994) AL Central Titles Ed Short (1962-1970) 735-723-1 .504 Three Straight 2nd Place Finishes (1963-1965) Roland Hemond (1970-1985) 1165-1192-6 .494 American League West Division Title (1983) Charles Comiskey II (1956-1958) 257-205-2 .556 Two Straight 2nd Place Finishes (1957-1958) Frank Lane (1949-1955) 559-519-9 .518 Four straight 3rd Place Finishes (1952-1955) Larry Himes (1987-1990) 311-335 .481 2nd Place (1990) - Built 1990s Core Leslie O'Connor (1946-1948) 195-265-4 .425 5th Place (1946) Hawk Harrelson (1986) 72-90-0 .444 5th Place - Peak Suckage Rick Hahn (2013-2022) 670-787 .460 American League Central Title (2021) - Peak Sustained Suckage

Bill Veeck loved to sell Bill Veeck. Good PR, got fans excited. But he had quality GMs with him. I would agree he had more input than most owners want or care to have, but he wasn't Jerry Jones.

One Top 100 Prospect was moved this week, and Juan Soto was traded. It wasn't a "sellers market" in San Diego It wasn't a "sellers market" in Minnesota. It wasn't a "sellers market" in New York. It wasn't a "sellers market" in Atlanta. It wasn't a "sellers market" in Saint Louis. Most here were underwhelmed by the returns of any of the top trade acquisitions beyond Luis Castillo.

It was facetious, but I believe with all my heart he was thinking it and would have said it if he thought he could get away with it.

Frank Thomas up in a two minutes to discuss the deadline debacle.

He should have been a seller, since his team is not a contender.

Roland Hemond was Veeck's 1970s GM. Hank Greenberg in the late 1950s.

"I made six moves at the Trade Deadline. Stating I did nothing is simply not true. Fans don't have all of the information at our disposal."

So people might forget about this: Twins Get RHP SP Tyler Mahle RHP RP Jorge Lopez RHP RP Michael Fulmer C Sandy Leon White Sox Get LHP Jake Diekman

Hahn did what Jerry wanted / demanded. The money has been spent, win with what you spent it on. For competitive purposes, it would have made sense to sell off anyone over 27 you can get a solid return on, but it would be a drag on already poor 2022-2023 ticket sales. I expect a big selloff after 2023 season ticket invoice payments are due.

I see them dumping $30M-$40M this offseason net. It may take trading 1-2 top players to have other teams eat Hahn's endless shitty contracts.

Luis Robert activated today. Will relax tonight. May play tomorrow.

Who said he ever stopped? He has been a secret agent working for the Cubs and against the Sox the past decade.

I thought $3M-$4M was the top amount available due to the fact this team cannot draw due to the fact they hired Tony La Russa.

Someone needs to ask about this: Twins Get RHP SP Tyler Mahle RHP RP Jorge Lopez RHP RP Michael Fulmer C Sandy Leon White Sox Get LHP Jake Diekman

Twins Get RHP RP Jorge Lopez RHP RP Michael Fulmer RHP SP Tyler Mahle C Sandy Leon White Sox Get LHP Jake Diekman

Would have been a better deadline if the Sox sold Cueto, anyone else they could have gotten good players in return.

Fuck no, not here.

There is no such thing as bad publicity.

Another add by the Twins.