South Side Hit Men

Or professional baseball players can get their head out of their rectum and pay attention to what is going on in front of them. So many base-running errors during the Cubs game today, worse than little league.

I hear what your saying, just think it will take a few weeks for Tony to get comfortable with playing an unproven rookie near everyday to start the year. He can play the first 20 of 30 games (every game vs LH, a mix against RH), and either play him 5-6 games a week once he is settled or send him down if he needs work. They still get their “money’s worth” if he plays well over say 120 games, and they still save his service clock if they send him down for work he would have had last year.

I wouldn’t assume Vaughn is considered an everyday starter at this stage. I have no problem with easing him in vs. RHP, and keeping him out of LF. If he is adjusting to ML pitching well, his starts against RHP can increase. Some here are expecting Vaughn to either play 140 + games or sit for service time, don’t believe these expectations are realistic, at least until he gets a month under his belt and proves he ca handle ML pitching, or whether he could use work in AA or AAA.

Jerry must be steaming. Players are much more unified heading into 2022 as compared to the four distinct ownership factions: Tanking welfare check collectors. Judge Smails / JR tweaner group. Large market teams that love the salary tax” and hate sharing with the welfare teams. The Dodgers and now Cohen’s Mets who literally don’t give a fuck about what these other 28 cheap bastard ownership groups do.

It’s going to be ironic that I’ll be one of the few on here defending Tony La Russa opening week, similar to defending Ricky until the final week of the season. They need to ease Vaughn into the lineup against RHP, he’s straight out of A ball, regardless of pedigree. Tony is a big fan of taking advantage of platoons and splits, fans better get used to it. Don’t understand why the majority of fans side with ownership over players. Kenny said they wouldn’t play games with his service time, and he is definitely one of the best 26, especially with end of the road players like Lamb and Hamilton also on the team. Either field the best time you can, or STFU about “multi championship season windows”. While the FO should have done more, the team is doing the best with what they have.

Yes indeed, I like the Opening Day lineup. https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/white-soxs-andrew-vaughn-not-starting-opening-day/

This is your best post, and one of the best of the off-season.I like reading others opinions and stating mine, but no need for people to get personal. I hope that now that the season has started, we can all focus on White Sox baseball, and be kinder here, especially in the game threads which were unreadable in terms of negativity. No need to find a new villain or scapegoat in the Sox dugout, whether the Sox finish 100-62 or 80-82.

86 wins, second place. Hopefully motivates the FO to do something significant this off-season, using money from a strong uptick in Season Ticket sales heading into 2022. Duvision winners: Yankees Twins Houston Mets Milwaukee LA

Adam Engel crushes Andrew Vaughn in OPS (by at least 50 points) and is considered an everyday OFer heading into 2022.

I’d buy this tee-shirt from the 108. In terms of this thread, I joined in late August, because for the first time since I left WSI in the late 00s, I was excited about the White Sox prospects heading into the month of September. I was surprised at the near universal vitriol against Ricky when I joined in late August and the Sox the best they’ve been (21-13 and tied for first), and the extreme negativity in game threads. I understand the bashing the final week, I didn’t agree with some of the moves either, but still chalk up the collapse primarily to a lack of starting pitching, which was exposed in the playoffs. While the offseason has been a disappointment outside of the Lynn and Katz acquisitions, the season starts tomorrow and I for one am very excited. I don’t agree the Sox are likely World Series Contenders in 2021, primarily due to the fact several key pieces need to get their first full season under their belt (Robert, Vaughn, Madrigal, Kopech, Crochet, Cease), but I think they have a solid shot at being legitimate contenders the next 2-3 years with continued development if the FO can add a legitimate corner OF and maybe 1 or 2 more pieces depending on how the rookies do. I’m also encouraged that Tony is saying and doing the right things, and the team has responded well to his and his staff’s presence and coaching. A CEO role will work well vs. a micromanager, and he has a good staff around him. Also very encouraged there were no sacred cows heading into Opening Day , with the cuts of Narron’s (Lucroy) and Katz’ (Turley) respective personal invitees. Go Sox!

Weed was far less potent back in the day vs. what the government sanctioned weed dealers sell today. Gave up menthols and weed in 8th grade, the year the Sox were Winning Ugly. Good decisions and great baseball. Damn it feels good to be a gangster.

No, people just come up with ridiculous opinions, perhaps weed induced, and when confronted with backing their talk with walking the walk, they back off. Watched baseball long enough to know what’s realistic, and what’s bullshit, be it optimism or pessimism. Would offer the same ban bet to someone saying the Sox won’t win 75, it’s as unlikely as winning 105.

What, so you can welch again. That said, I had no takers when I offered a ban bar after posters were claiming Grandal would catch over 120 games, or the Sox would win over 105 games, this upcoming season.

I believe the Cubs called Lester’s agent last minute with an offer of $2M-$3M, before he signed with Washington the following day. Jerry and Tom have a lot in common.

Yolmer has been designated for assignment, and I'd prefer him over Jake Lamb, who hasn't been good in the past three season. He can play the three infield positions, Garcia is needed more in the OF this year with two primarily platoon players manning the corners once Engel returns. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/03/orioles-acquire-adam-plutko.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MlbTradeRumors+(MLB+Trade+Rumors) If Eloy had to get hurt, I'm glad it happened before camp vs. shortly after, I am pleased with the Sox personnel decisions, assuming Vaughn is a very very temporary part time LF fix.

Followed by Steve Stone effusively praising Reinsdorf for his commitment to winning after picking up yet another Jarrod Dyson type trade deadline acquisition, followed by more potshots at Ricky Renteria (it's Ricky Renteria's salary that is preventing the team to do more) and of course trolling human beings actually interested in White Sox baseball. You can throw Bruce Levine, Bob Nightengale and Chuck Garfien into the "Bow before Dear Leader" eternal chorus.

Me too. I enjoy listening to games and rooting for the players. When an expansion team wins more World Series in their first ten years of existence than your favorite team has won in a century, built by an exiled former Sox executive, it's been a rough 45 years, and a brutal past postseason century for older White Sox fans. I'm really only critical of ownership/management, nearly all players play to the best of their health and abilities. When or lose, I enjoy listening to the games (or watching at a bar or at the park) and watching the highlights. You can enjoy baseball win or lose, a game, the season, a player, the team. I can like an 70 win team as much as a 90 win team, if the players are likable as they have been under Ricky's tenure. Sure I want the Sox to win, but if they don't, that's part of life.

Going to go with Little Mad in game two against Heaney, wearing #1 for your Chicago White Sox.

Zack Collins. Yes I said it, hear me know, pay me later.

For the purpose of the poll, a successful waiver claim (with or without a trade component) would be considered an FA/Trade acquisition. I agree it will take at least a month or two, possibly into the second half before knowing the ultimate answer. That is why I thought it was an interesting poll question discussed on the radio broadcast yesterday.

This is the best news, both for this particular move and that the Sox didn’t keep a guy just because he was brought in by the manager and or coaching staff. Hope it works out for Lucroy elsewhere if he is still physically able to catch, but this is the year to give Collins and also perhaps Mercedes a chance to catch as a backup. There will always be a veteran backup type available from one of the taking teams if neither are able to catch adequately after a reasonable period of evaluation.

It would be wrong to start Collins and Vaughn nearly everyday. Collins has 102 ML at bats, a .599 OPS, .361 vs. LHP. He should platoon only, the Sox have plenty of other hitters to start against LHP. Vaughn has 0 ML at bats above A ball. He should sit against tough RHPs, ease him against weaker RHP to ensure he can handle the jump. Garcia should rotate covering Eaton vs. LHP, and some starts for Engel in LF when he is subbing for Robert or against tough RHP. The Sox should get a utility infielder, claim Yolmer Sanchez (he's on waivers) if they are not comfortable with Mendick. If you are going to worry about anything, worry about Tony getting all veteranastic, starting Eaton regularly against LHP, Lucroy every time Grandal is off/DH/1B, and God Forbid fucking Billy Hamilton (2020 OPS .390, .564 in 2019) gets any starts ever, unless they literally don't have 9 batters that day because of COVID.

The poll is your prediction as to who will play the most innings in left field. It is NOT a referendum on your preferred LF option. Poll closes before first pitch Opening Day.

Once Engel can play, Grandal can catch, and assuming they go "internal" for LF, I'd go this route: RHP 1. Anderson SS; 2. Eaton^ RF; 3. Abreu 1B; 4. Moncada* 3B; 5. Grandal* C; 6. Robert CF; 7. Collins^/Vaughn DH; 8. Vaughn/Engel LF; 9. Madrigal 2B LHP 1. Anderson SS; 2. Grandal* C; 3. Abreu 1B; 4. Moncada* 3B; 5. Robert CF; 6. Vaughn DH; 7. Engel RF; 8. Garcia# LF; 9. Madrigal 2B I fear Lucroy playing 60 + games, Collins getting snubbed, Vaughn being overwhelmed if near everyday LF.

Excited for the bullpen planned for today: Heuer, Crochet, Kopech and Hendriks. Nice to see Yoan be able to stay in the game.