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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 05:14 AM) Yeah, I know SINCE, lol. 3 month long vacations will do that to a person. Six weeks, fine. But this is too long. That's why I went to the library and checked out about 30 books today...can't wait for my teaching job to start at the end of the month (in Shanghai) and to forget about this year's White Sox until the offseason at least. Are you married? If not, are there available women for you in Shanghai? Do you do well over there?

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 04:17 AM) Yo.Greg, you're getting ahead of yourself, Walker is unfireable...he must have some pics of JR and a 16 year old. I'm pretty much assuming a total housecleaning after the season. I guess that could change if Cora gets the head man's job. Tonight's game was a return to April/May. Wow what a blowout stinker of a game. Can you imagine getting swept by NYY in the Cell and then having to get on a plane to go to Minnesota? If the guys care at all, what a horrible feeling getting thrown around at home and now going to get blown away before 35,000 fans a night in Minnie.

QUOTE (Lauren.Teahen @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 04:18 AM) Yes, this is really Marks wife. Guess that you will just have to trust me. I read through the majority of the thread and figured you all deserved to know the truth. I appreciate the kind words. Thanks Mrs. Teahen. Screw Oney Guillen. Who gives a flip what he thinks? The pix I've seen you are pretty. Hang in there and kick butt in Toronto.

I remain indifferent. Wuoldn't it be great to have this lineup the rest of the season though. LF - Dayan. CF - DeAza/Danks platoon. RF - CQ 3B - Do we have anybody in AA or AAA? If not Morel I guess. SS - Lexi 2B - Beckham (with new hitting coach) 1B - Paulie C - Flowers DH - AJ 6 days a week; Juan once a week out of loyalty. P - Make Sale a starter and let that guy we got in the Jackson trade start as well. Let Rios coach third base; Let Dunn coach first base. If they screw up that, fine them.

QUOTE (Lauren.Teahen @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 04:01 AM) I always promised myself I would NEVER read, write or respond to one of these forums...but here I am. A Chicago friend informed me of this thread and suggested I read it. There truthfully is no story here. Many of you follow Mark on Twitter & know he is the type to throw out humor before nonsense. Why some of you chose to assume his tweet was about Oney is beyond me. We don't use twitter to take shots at people. I personally have never spoken a word to him and I can assure you my husband has had minimal contact. Once Oney opted to respond, it was made clear he assumed the tweet in question was about him. It hurts my heart to think he assumes that is how he is viewed around the Chicago White Sox clubhouse. I really have no idea or concern for Oney's occupation. What I'm most curious of is why he would be so quick to think it's him? Regardless, just as I'm sure Oney wouldn't want to be looked at as lazy person, I don't want to be looked at as the "unhealthy", "man like", "hideous" wife of Mark Teahen. It pains me that I even feel the need to defend myself. However, I'm a woman and I think it's fair to say no woman likes to be PUBLICLY criticized on their appearance. I'm 6', and played Division 1 volleyball. Do I have a petite build...no. Am I massive and man-like....umm, hardly. Did I ask to be born with an athletic build...no. Is it something I'm ashamed of...absolutely not. As far as being hideous...well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm perfectly content with the face God gave me and I certainly don't go around criticizing the face of others. Again, I'm bothered by the fact that I couldn't be the better person and just walk away, but at the end of the day I am all woman, regardless of what Oney Guillen thinks. His words, while false, brought pain to my heart. I dare ask any of you how a woman in your life would respond put in this same terrible situation. I have never asked, nor do I ever want to be in the public eye....that's Mark's job. I didn't deserve to be publicly scrutinized and embarrassed by an individual I don't even know & who certainly doesn't know me. I'm sure a few of you will have some choice words for my response but I hope there are some of you that appreciate my coming forward and setting the record straight. The tweet was never directed at Oney nor have anything to do with Chicago, and I'm saddened assumptions, and unwarranted retaliation have occurred. I look forward to this non story being a distant memory. Mark & I truly enjoyed our time in Chicago. While he wishes things on the field would have worked out differently it just wasn't in the cards. We've moved on to the next adventure in our life and wish nothing but the best to the entire White Sox organization. Mark enjoyed playing for Ozzie and before today has never had an issue of any kind with anyone involved in MLB or their family members. Mark is a class act & perhaps can teach young Oney a thing or two about life. I'm truly blessed to have found such a wonderful man to call my husband. I'd typically end this note with Go Sox....but since I've officially been named a Lady Jay I just can't do it. Best of luck in life to you all. Be The Difference, Lauren Teahen (the hideous, unhealthy, manly wife of Mark Teahen) If this is really you, thank you for posting. Nobody on this board thinks you are unattractive. Your husband was a very likeable person, unfortunately it didn't work out for him in Chicago and he seemed for whatever reason to lose his hitting ability on the South Side. You are a class act. Mark is a class act. If this isn't really you, then shame on me for being fooled. If it is you, you are one class person. Good luck to you and your husband in Canada. I think most fans could tell from interviews, etc., he is a good man. Just couldn't hit the ball in Chicago. Hopefully he will hit liners that find gaps in Toronto. You 2 are CLASS. p.s. don't worry what Oney Guillen thinks of your looks. Who cares what he thinks? Nobody on here even comes close to suggesting you are anything but an attractive lady. And as a former volleyball player, that's cool as well. You know how to take care of your body obviously. Screw Oney. If it has truly pained you, just try to remember his opinion about your looks means squat. From what we can tell you look good on the outside and obviously are special on the inside to respond here.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 03:50 AM) So what are people watching for the rest of the year? I think the individual things I'd like to see are Beckham and Rios finishing strong. Hopefully Santos and Sale don't get overused down the stretch. I really don't care too much about how the rest of this roster does....until Viciedo gets promoted. I wonder if some of the guys will listen to the new hitting coach next year. Beckham's career is at a crossroads and somehow they have to develop a line drive mentality. I don't know what to watch the rest of the way. I'd bring up Danks and play DeAza every day and Viciedo every day. Maybe even Flowers almost every day and let AJ DH or something since he's had a good season. We might as well let a lot of guys close and shut down Sergio and Humber if they are overworked. Maybe give Mark a break and shut him down as well and let some AAA guys start a few games.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 02:44 AM) It was supposed to be the first of a few trades to throw in the towel, but KW got cold feet it seems. Yeah, what would it have taken to get that Hunter Pence fella?

It must be amazing to go to a White Sox game this year and hear absolutely nothing coming from the stands except boos.

LOL our new pitching acquistion gives up the bomb. Nice Jackson trade for a ... relief pitcher? We have too many bats to acquire another bat.

So we lose four to NY and three to Minnie. The plummet in the Central is on. This will be the third time this season we give Minnesota hope of becoming a contender. We always are the tonic to wake up Minnie.

When will our everyday lineup be likeable again?

That's the difference between a good team and us. New York gets 2 on, hits into the DP ... BUT the next guy, Cano, picks everybody up and gets the RBI hit rather than the White Sox-type flameout inning.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 01:53 AM) The dude didn't even go to high school. He doesn't seem like the book worm type that studies all sorts of subjects to expand his horizons to learn. And just look how immature he acts in public. It's not an act. He truly has the personality development of a 15 year old. I think you guys have leapt over the deep end with personal attacks on Ozzie. He's not a dumb buffoon, folks.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 07:41 PM) JUST IGNORE HIM AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO ARGUE WITH HIS TERRIBLE AND MORONIC "LOGIC"! Who? Me? Or is somebody else on your s*** list? You Ozzie haters act like the whole city is in your corner. If Ozzie walked into a restaurant later tonight, the place would be buzzing. People love Ozzie Guillen as they should. He is one of a kind IMO. Now is this a s***ty season for him? Yes. Should he have been fired for our start in April/May? Yeah. Should he be fired for calling for the bunt when his guys can't bunt? Yeah probably. If you like the bunt, you should at least demand the players learn how to bunt and not look like clowns in attempting the sacrifice bunt. But I still think he's a good manager. He needs a GM willing to be a GM and put the players he wants on the roster, not the players only the manager wants. Fire KW; Ozzie one more year.

QUOTE (Paulie4Pres @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 12:23 AM) I can see it. He's uneducated, ignorant, and extremely arrogant. I've grown extremely tired of his crap over the last couple years. The problem is, I don't think it's an act, either. I really think Ozzie IS that ignorant and stupid. If he wasn't managing the White Sox for the last several years, he'd probably be broke, and living back in Venezuela. Oney is just a product of Ozzie's ignorance and lack of education. Your last sentence is just ignorant IMO. Give me a break. You don't know squat about Ozzie's intelligence or anything like that and it is stupid to rail against him like that. He IS a major league manager, one of thoe most desired jobs in the world as baseball still is our pastime even though football is bigger now. How the f*** do you know Ozzie would be broke if he wasn't a big league manager? That's ignorant IMO. Some people act like Ozzie is this big clown who knows nothing about baseball. Hate to break it to you, but he does know a lot about baseball. It has been his life. And do you want to bet me he'll be in baseball as long as he wants to? Florida next several years, then who knows where else. And everybody should be happy cause our next manager will not be outspoken and will be closer to Bev in that regard than Ozzie. You can hate Ozzie for his candor. Some of us appreciate his candor.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 07:00 PM) Because a fan's eyes will deceit themselves almost every time. Yes, you can notice quite a bit from jut watching games, but you're going to remember just the great plays or just the terrible ones, especially if you're biased towards a player to begin with. Stats, combined with a fan's eyes, will tell you the closest thing to the truth. I'm not biased against Lexi, though. I am a fan. I just think he is one of those guys capable of 'carrying' a lineup for a while and my eyes have told me he's not doing that. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. My eyes also tell me Beckham has been a bucket of suck but I could be wrong there, too. I am a Lexi and Sox fan. I just get pissed at the ofense.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 07:48 PM) Alex Rios in July: Batting average of .163 On Base % of .183 No home runs 4 RBIs Plus he has repeatedly dogged it in the field, multiple times within individual games. He's definitely one of the worst excuses for a big leaguer in White Sox history. Probably in the top five most overpaid players though Peavy and Dunn battle him on that one as well.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 07:43 PM) A 3.6 WAR 4 months into the season is not "blah", it's good for 30th in baseball and has made him worth $16.1M this season. He's also hitting .338/.410/.527/.937 this season in close and late situations and .333/.385/.563/.949 in high leverage situations, he's been huge when it has counted most. One of the last players we should be b****ing about is Alexei. If Lexi's been great, then I stand corrected. Maybe it's just the at bats I've been watching of late during my selective viewing where he's been a bucket of suck. If he has the stats, fine. Collectively it's all adding up to about 3 runs a game for this horses*** offense and for some reason I have grouped Lexi into the s***storm of late.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 07:43 PM) Most managers with any sense of dignity wouldn't continue to trot out a CF that is obviously dogging it. What a disgrace. Kenny and Jerry could release him. It's not just Ozzie. That column by Rosie was phenomenal. This is probably Ozzie just proving he can't be pushed around by the press, which I agree is not good. I don't agree with everything Ozzie does. I'd be all for sitting Rios/Dunn every game the rest of the season.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 07:28 PM) Guess who's in the starting lineup again! It's our favorite guy, Rios!!! It's funny. Rios wasn't all that hated on here until just recently. People still talked about his raw ability. I am glad to see Rios hitting Dunn territory in terms of fans hating him. I've hated his game a long long time.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 07:40 PM) Yes. Most AL managers don't bunt and play for 1 run before the 4th inning of a game. What percentage of situations has he done that? The Sox I watch screw it up either way. Either strand runners the conventional way or f*** up the bunt.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 07:34 PM) Can't decide which portion of the bolded is more wrong/hilarious. You think his in-game strategy is that different from all other managers? It's KW's duty to fire Walker, not Ozzie. You don't think it's a miracle this team is three under .500 considering the offense? It's on KW to change the approach by firing Walker, not ozzie. And blaming him for Dunn/Rios is kind of stupid IMO. Kenny is the guy who acquired them. I wouldn't lose any sleep over Ozzie getting fired because he calls for the bunt when his players can't bunt. I don't mind the strategy I mind the fact apparently they don't work on bunting at all in spring training. After seeing Lilly's form on that bunt and Beckham's form ... wow. Plus you guys are wasting your anger. He's Florida's next manager, so why not relax and enjoy the last 2 months of Ozzie.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 05:23 PM) For the Guillen apologists, please list out the reasons why you think that he needs to stay here as the manager of our ball club. I'm trying to objectively come up with reasons why he deserves to stay and I'm struggling to come up with anything other than he's entertaining with the media. Kenny is worse. Gio, Richard, Hudson for nothing in return. Nice. Rios and Dunn. My god. As far as your question. Here are the reasons he needs to stay. ... -- He is only 48. He has learned a lot on the job here. He will only get better. -- His handling of in-game strategy looks bad when it fails but in reality he pretty much manages by the book like most managers. -- He is an institution of sorts in Chicago. -- He knows how to win the big one. We got to the WS and completed the deal instead of pathetically just being happy to be there. -- He actually has had this team overachieve. The offense is so bad I can't believe we're only 3 under .500. -- He is not boring. He is colorful. That said ... he is in charge and these guys can't bunt. That's on him. If KW has given him the green light to bench Rios/Dunn he should take him up on that. I don't think you guys have much to worry about, though. I firmly believe Florida has been a done deal in his mind for some time now.

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 05:02 PM) The Guillens are rednecks. They are people who came from nothing and got rich but don't know how to handle it and the stench of piss still stays with them. Spoken anonymously on the Internet. This statement really enhances discussion. Guillen is not a redneck. I like his passion when he fights back and says how rich he is. He's one of those rare managers/coaches who is willing to say anything interesting. How many are there willing to stand up for themselves? There was Ditka. There's Ozzie. Piniella was colorful. Some of them were back in the day like Weaver, Lasorda Most are plastic puppets. I love Ozzie's feistiness.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 12:30 PM) Who cares if the pitching staff is "pennant winning" when the team is mis-managed? Dunn and Rios don't HAVE to play. KW said the players that give the team the best chance to win will play. Ozzie didn't listen. Rios is still being trotted out there. And why would you say SS has been horrible? Alexei has actually been pretty good. And not to defend Beckham's lackluster offense, but having him and Alexei in the middle infield gives the team the best chance to win. I added Lexi because aside from last night's homer he's been pretty blah this season. I like him overall but he could get a huge hit now and then.