greg775

I would agree. KW has made some good trades, but some questionable ones, too. If the Tigers are high on some of our prospects, they might try to get KW to overpay for Grandy, who I bet would love to play in his hometown. Do the Cubs have anything the Tigers might be interested in? From all I've ready about Grandy, I would like to see him in Chicago regardless. If they won't deal him to us, let him go to the Scrubs. I bet you the Tigers will indeed try to deal Grandy to the Sox, but it will be such a lopsided trade in favor of Detroit with prospects, KW will correctly refuse the deal. Probably both of the Danks as well as Flowers for Grandy? Or Danks, Dayan V, and Flowers for Grandy. I would not make either of those trades if I was KW, but it would be amazing to get Granderson. Do the Yankees still have good prospects to surrender? I'd say whatever team dangles the best 3-4 young prospects gets Grandy.

Makes sense. What doesn't make sense is moving Gordon from third to second. I think it's safe to say he was becoming a damn fine third baseman. Mark Teahen is not the answer. Believe me. To move him for Mark is insulting. I guess if they are moving him for Vicieno (sp?) I would buy that if indeed he is our future third sacker.

YES. YES. YES. This is the kind of player that would totally excite me and would make me totally excited about our chances. Grandy in center; Rios in right. I'd even be willing to part with a good player like Bobby to get Grandy. Prove we can trade with other teams besides the Royals, Kenny. Give them a good player or two and get Grandy.

Bad backs are not a good thing obviously. I heard the Hawks lost some guy to back surgery. How the hell will that guy ever come back, getting checked in the back. Or a football player with a back injury ... wow. I wonder who will sign Joe.

Please go to an NL team so we don't have to face yet another motivated guy to kick our ass. That won't happen, so go to Texas. The Rangers beat us always anyway.

Paulie had a good year last year and can still play. Not every team thinks our players are s***. Paulie returned to his old form last year, lot of key hits that were not home runs. I don't know why his salary would scare off teams that have money.

I thought his arm was basically toast.

Sounds like we won the last WS title we had with starting pitching and big boppers. This time, KW wants to go back to the Go Go White Sox with little offense, manufacturing runs, but great starting pitching.

Good post except for this. Crisp is another outfield hack with a very weak arm.

There won't? Home run hitters have treated us well at the Cell. You don't want to go all speed in the Cell.

Why do you think Coco is greater than Pods?

Oops. My bad. Thanx.

My gosh, Bolt. If you lived in Kansas City you'd be mocked for your comments on Mark. He is considered kind of a joke around here. Not a good fielder; strikes out a ton. The excuse you could make (which would be an excuse) is he got moved around too much, no good players around him blah blah blah. We can hope, but this is not like we've acquired anybody good. It was basically us trading average to below average talent to the Royals for average to below average talent. Both sides hoping lightning will strike. To Teahen's credit, he is regarded as a guy who plays hard and when hurt and is good with media and teammates.

Don't we need to add somebody like Dunn to excite our fan base? Or will tickets be gobbled up by fans giddy over our strong starting rotation? If we make no real changes, CQ, Paulie, Rios, Teahen and Gordon better be mashing some home runs, 20 minimum for all of them, hoipefully 30 and up for CQ and Paulie.

That was one of the signature plays of our season. It was really bad. Should be interesting to see how KW replaces Pods and Dye. Like somebody said, on paper that's losing a lot of offense. Somebody mentioned Ross Gload recently. I kind of see Teahen more of a Ross Gload than a Gordon Beckham type prospect.

I'd have to agree with everything here. Kind of scary.

It just makes no sense to move Beckham to second for Mark Teahen. The obvious right move would be to keep Beckham at third, where he played very well defensively as the season progressed, and platoon Teahen with Nix at second. I will support Teahen and hope for the best but this makes zero sense to me.

Thanks chw42, I read every word. I can't say your piece encouraged me much, especially your last sentence about the bad defense. Nice writeup though. Good sabermetric analysis.

That was a neat story about Girardi. Makes me feel good that he won a ring.

I guess I hate the deal because I've lived here and basically heard Royals fans bag on the guy since he started to regress. I'd love him as a utility player; love him there. I'm worried at him starting at third nonetheless. Some Baseball Digest comments: Please comment on these. What the Sox get with Teahen is an average left-handed bat who can play third base, second base, or right field—although UZR says he can’t exactly play any of those positions well. Teahen’s walk rate has plummeted in the last two years, falling from 9.2 in 2006 and 2007 to 7.4 and 6.6 in 2008 and 2009. As a result, his OBP fell from the .350 range to the .310-.320 range. On top of that, his contact rate has fell along with his walk rate. His current approach at the plate—essentially, one of less patience—is a strong departure from his famed Moneyball days. Some scout quotes on Teahen from the book (page 31): Good approach to hitting. Not a lot of power right now…he takes pitches. Teahen doesn’t project. He’s a corner guy who doesn’t hit a lot of home runs. Teahen not only is a corner guy who doesn’t hit a lot of home runs, but now, he doesn’t even have a good approach to hitting. Maybe some of that change has been because of poor coaching from the Royals. Or maybe some of that change has been that Teahen got sick of being a corner outfielder who doesn’t hit many home runs. If the Sox can find a way to get Teahen back to his patient days at the plate (i.e. get his walk rate back up), then he at least can be a good OBP guy somewhere in the lineup. If not, though, he’ll become essentially an expensive utility player. Teahen is a better defensive right fielder than Jermaine Dye, but he’s still not above-average. So if Teahen is playing a corner position, he won’t have much power or much defense. A lesser worry for me is that the Sox will move Teahen to third and Gordon Beckham to second. I’d have to hope the Sox know about Teahen’s deficiencies at third and would rather keep Beckham progressing defensively there instead of moving him to second. But that infield shift is not something we can rule out just yet. THAT LAST GRAPH IS KEY. Mark is not a good third baseman. That should concern all of us especially with Lexi not yet great at ss.

Isn't Coco out until mid season next season? Didn't he have a pretty bad injury? He's got no arm either, right?? Coco? Please say no no.

You stat junkies ... please analyze Mark Teahen's strikeouts and overall s***ty offensive numbers and tell me he's more than a utility player. Royals fans are sooo glad to get rid of the guy. I real all these stat analysis of our players ... give me one on Teahen because he is a disaster in terms of production. 50 ribbies in 130 games or something? All those Ks. Of course the Sox are probably happy to get rid of Fields. Getz is the puzzle. It should have been Fields for Teahen cause they are similarly bad.

If Pods wants that, good luck. I would like him back, but if he wants to test the market for that, again, good luck. He doesn't seem to play well unless he's wearing a Chicago uniform. Maybe the Cubbies want him. Who the f*** will pay Pods 7.5 mill a year??

I forgot about the HGH thing. That's a big risk.

Are they that dumb? This trade doesn't suggest they are dumb. Chances of Fields/Getz turning into something decent are decent. It's not like Mark Teahen is George Brett. He's a very average baseball player.