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Great post by Yasny. If the Sox front office execs or even interns had made such a shrine, there'd be hell to pay and they'd be fired today. Still I can't help but think this is clubhouse stuff, boys will be boys, and no big deal. What will get Oz fired, it seems to me, is he can't become a stuffy team spokesman that most teams want nowadays. He's too controversial and with the team not responding anymore, I'd suspect he'll be fired this season at some point if the team fades out of contention.

I thought about Ditka, but then I thought about since Ditka. Haven't the Bears' coaches since then been pretty bland media wise? Skiles never said anything too wild in the media did he? Piniella is a hot head of course. Dusty didn't say anything out of whack. I listened to Oz's "rant" on chicago sports and it was a give and take with the writers in which they were interjecting stuff and all parties were laughing some. He dropped the f-bomb a lot, but it was just conversational stuff. I love Oz's personality. I hate our team's offense since the title season.

Uribe is the scapegoat? Fine, but too bad Richar isn't ready to play yet. Unless it's Getz and it won't be, who is gonna play second??

Can Josh Fields field a ground ball at second base? Only halfway kidding. I assume the answer is no. I like jason's suggestions. Not bad stuff IMO...

Anything is possible if Toronto can beat you four straight. As far as Crede, somebody said he had lack of intensity for not begging to bat. C'mon. If he really had a migraine give him a break. You can't move your head with a migraine. He might have gotten killed trying to duck from a pitch. If he had a migraine I can't believe he was on the bench. Was he in the clubhouse laying down in the dark? Did anybody see him on the bench even?

That might be the post of the year. People get mad when posters over-react, but good teams do not lose 4 straight games to the Toronto Blue Jays. Way to show some pride, lifeless White Sox. What a joke. As expected, shuffling the lineup did no good. The Sox have done a good job of lowering expectations. My only hope as far as the Sox contending for a playoff spot is we kick ass against teams from our suddenly mediocre division, which actually is possible. We shall see.

I love Ozzie and his crazy rants but you have to admit not many organizations would put up with the F bombs he throws out there all the time. In this day and age of political correctness, how many representatives of organizations talk like that in public? I realize this is baseball and I don't mind the F bombs at all, but it's kind of unique. He tells the media his veterans need to get their heads out of their asses then gets mad at the fans and media for acting like the team has some holes.

I'm glad we agree Swish's offensive production has been unacceptable. You got to hit better than .220 no matter how many walks you draw.

Why isn't Harold Baines a big league hitting coach? He had a sweet swing and approach and was amazing except when he went into those 0-for-25s. How bout Chet Lemon? Is he available?

So is Marcum, so is (fill in the blank). Our fate will be decided with how we do in our own division so let's get ready for our 19 games with KC and Minnie, Det, Cleveland. We've not even played the Royals yet.

Good article by Mark Gonzalez in the Trib for Monday's paper available at http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...1,2071713.story But Oz contradicts himself in his rants. Oz rips the fans for being fickle, blasting the team, a day after he admitted his veterans needed to get their heads out of their asses. In this Trib story ... it says Guillen couldn’t comprehend the fickleness of Chicago. “People are panicking,” said Guillen, whose Sox were in first place in the American League Central from April 15 until Saturday night. “Did we play a real bad week? Yes, we did, we stunk. But it wasn’t too long ago that we were — ‘the biggest surprise in baseball, wow, look at the White Sox.’ “All of a sudden, there we go, back to normal. We have to deal with it. (Bleep) it. As long as the 25 guys out there believe we can do it, everyone else, hey ... “ Good stuf from Oz ripping those with no faith, but then he ends the story with this gem: “I don’t think (general manager) Kenny (Williams) is going to put up with this stuff. If they (players) don’t believe they can do it, well, we’re going to find someone that can do it.” So Oz admits the team is stinking yet gets mad at the fans for thinking the team is stinking. I love Oz and his rants. But he's crazy, you have to admit.

If the Sox want a scapegoat and to start making moderate changes, then dump Uribe and play anybody else at second not named Ozuna. I guess financially we can't drop Uribe, but I wish the Sox would.

Whenever I watch him play, he's an automatic out versus lefties. Yet I look at his stats and entering today's game he was 9-for-32 with lefties with three homers and 10 RBIs. He struck out 12 times in 32 at bats vs. lefties, but had a decent batting average of .281 vs. lefties. Versus righties, how can this be? He entered today's game 12 of 67 for a horrible .179 clip. Three homers and nine RBIs with 17 walks vs. righties. He's hitting .137 in night games. Same number of homers vs. righties as lefties this young season. Last year, Thome hit .196 vs. lefties, which means he's due to start really struggling vs. lefties to get back to that batting average. He hit .315 vs. righties, bashing 29 homers vs. righties and six vs. lefties. In 2006, he hit 36 homers vs. righties, six vs. lefties with a BA of .236 vs. lefties and .321 vs. righties. My opinion is he takes that big hack and it's a homer or nothing for Jimmy. My question is should he only play vs. righties?

Thome actually tried to hit that first pitch to leftfield it appeared. His next two hacks were embarrassingly bad.

Anything over Uribe. Go get Getz, KW.

Hawk's end of the game prologue was embarrassing in that he flat out blamed the loss on a call. But I still like him for some reason. He and Stone would be awesome in the booth.

I disagree with the sarcasm. I think most posters here think in terms of "the context of baseball" before making an opinion. The Sox have stunk for a while now, hitting wise, not just this year. They had a similar record in April last year and completely went in the tank. I think it's reasonable to have a dark side attitude toward the team. In "the context of baseball," my hope is with the starting pitching looking pretty darn good and as if it may be for real, there still is hope. I'm not convinced the offense is going to be even average, considering it has sucked for more than this season.

Since this is the negative catch all file, aside from bashing the usual suspects who haven't delivered in this slump ... to me, Swisher doesn't seem like the kind of guy you want locked up contract wise for a long time. Swish is rapidly falling down close to .200. If Pods was doing this, everybody would want him sent on the first train to Oshkosh. I know ... he draws walks.

I guess it's time to lower the expectations. I was pleasantly surprised when we were hot early in April. It's pretty bad when as a fan you assume a loss on Monday (which at least I do), then hope we can get it back together at home where we have not played especially well. Can you imagine how much better fans would feel if we just scored an average amount of runs in this series? Konerko, Dye and AJP up in the ninth and they go down as if they were Class A players. Amazing slump.

Actually Oz makes a good point about them being veterans and needing to wake up. Mariotti now has his ammo though to get Oz fired. He can write that he called out the veterans saying they need to get their head out of their ass and how can they possibly respect Ozzie again, blah blah. Oz has a big mouth, blah blah. Oz's quote was pretty cool, I thought. He called out the lumbering, but now slumbering veteran bats.

No disrespect to Marcum. I just have been frustrated by the lineup getting mowed down by just about everybody who takes the hill. I would like to have Marcum on the Sox staff. I should have said above average pitcher instead of average.

Then JR should keep him on the payroll somewhere with other job responsibilities. I agree coaches aren't the ones hitting but like several on here have said, at some point somebody has to take the fall. The team continues to suck at the plate under him. Walker should be kept on in some capacity if JR loves him, but Baines should be made hitting coach immediately. No changes will happen, though. Oz and KW will say nobody was complaining a week and a half ago when the team was more comfortably in first place.

Hate to say it but I fear he speaks the truth. Now the real baseball begins, the daily grind.

When are Swish and Cabrera going to loosen up the team again as they allegedly did when we were winning big in early April? This team resembles a bunch of zombies right now, at least at the plate. Is was a matter of time before we had a bad road trip, though. We've been playing s*** at home for the most part, better on the road until these last 2 flameouts.

Good for you. For the rest of us, we have to wonder how we got 2 hits and mowed down AGAIN by just an average pitcher.