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My congrats also. Amazing season Paulie.

Wow, Ken Berry. That is a heckuva choice. He was a stud. And he definitely was underrated. Didn't Barry Jones have one incredible year as a set up man when we won the division? He might be underrated that one season if my memory isn't fading.

A good manager knows what to do, to be very simple about it. Ozzie didn't. Because of that, he failed, and the team died. C'mon. That didn't kill us. Losing teams point to one simple thing that cost us a season. How come the Yanquis didn't let the 17-0 loss to Cleveland kill them or the 20-4 loss to the Royals or whatever it was. Every LOSING team has moments they could point to as keys to losing. I mean there is something wrong with a team BESIDES the Hunter collision situation when Crede can blast a walk off homer to win a big exciting game and we tank after that. I respectfully disagree that one play in one game cost us the season. If it did, we are a joke of an organization and don't deserve to win anyway.

Seriously ... do we all agree Jose V. had a great career here, but Guzman would be a reasonable signing if we are serious about ever winning the fricking division??? Anybody against inking Guzman??

We need to sign Guzman and bust up their team a bit.

I like the choice of Rock Raines. He was a stud. When he was hot or reasonably hot, he was always on base. And he whacked a lot of leadoff triples and hrs. Seriously though, did I pick the winner in Chet? Chet was sooo underrated. We got rid of him and he still had a lot of ball left in him. He made the finest catch I've ever seen. I actually saw him when he was a Tiger and asked him about the catch and he remembered every bit about it. Somebody hit a line shot cannon in the gap in old Comiskey and it was the kind of shot you expect to one hop the wall. All of a sudden Lemon appeared in the TV screen diving and making an unreal catch.

It's hard to not be a cynical prick this time of year. All we do is lose any game against a reasonable foe. I really can't believe this second half of the season. Just think if we keep playing like this to start next year. We could be out of it in early May.

I hope we never say our schedule looks better than the Twinks the second half, etc., in the future. I mean until we start beating the teams in our own horses*** div., the strength of schedule means nothing.

I went with Paulie. Oh what might have been had Maggs and Hurt stayed healthy to go with Lee and Paulie.

Jerry Dybzinski. Just kidding. I still won't forgive him for that baserunning blunder that cost the Sox a win over Baltimore with Britt Burns pitching the game of his life. Most underrated ever?? --Ralph Garr setting the table that one magical season. --Pudge Fisk. --Chet Lemon. He was damn good. --Ken Kravec (again just kidding).

I can't believe some people are so high on Uribe.

I hope Dork our owner realizes attendance figures are going to SUCK next year after this quit-job. They better re-tool the team smartly. WHo the heck is gonna buy season tix for next year after this debacle?

Good point, he gawn, but i didn't know if we'd addressed the issue if the guys quit on Oz. If they did, that's alarming.

I have concerns about KW because after getting Alomar and Everett he was insisting we were still in the race. I want to see a story where KW takes the blame for this shipwreck since the loss of Maggs and Hurt.

Are we simply anemic without Maggs and Hurt or did the team quit on Oz? Our effort of late has suggested we are a pathetic baseball team right now.

I don't hate Joe and am not completely down on him, but the fact is he had a s*** year.

I'm jealous cause Gordon is VERY VALUABLE. Yanks payroll sucks.

I think Guzman at ss and Johnny Damon and re-signing Maggs would cure our ills. And try to tinker finding a Gordon like reliever. Seriously, this is all it'd take. Guzman and Damon, plus a reliable reliever as long as we re-up Maggs. Dat's my take.

Oz's best move this season was moving him to ninth in the order. Is Joe still down there? I haven't been studying the boxes as closely as when we were playing decent baseball.

I agree our pitching is not a lock to be dominant. I shake my head though at your statement, I think we should let Maggs go in the offseason, no matter whether he wants to sign a 1 year deal or not. It's time to turn the page with him. Why is it time to turn the page with Maggs?? He and Frank are proving we NEED their production. Who the hell do you want to replace him?

Tizzle, your post was one of the best I've ever read. It's not going to be any easier next year with the development of Detroit and Cleveland. --Amen brother. So true. KW can no longer acquire underachievers hoping for "lightning in a bottle." Nor can he convince Sox fans our team will win the division by "default." --Great point. I was fooled we could win this horses*** division at 10 over .500. Not so. The Twinks kick our ass every year. Rebuild the system. Spend some god damn money. Nothing in between. --You are right. But they won't do that. So we either contract the team or continue to try to get lucky. The problem is we are close to being a pathetic loser that will be out of it in May/June. We got major problems. It's also alarming the team has fallen apart under Oz.

Did the Yanks pay out the ass for Gordon? The loss of Gordon was a killer for this team.

THE SOX DON'T SIGN BIG NAME FREE AGENTS! I don't see whats so hard to understand about that. --You are right, but we sometimes keep our own. We need to re-sign Maggs. This team ain't going nowhere next year w/out Maggs and Frank.

Does anybody know why we didn't resign Gordon? Tom Gordon is a stud and we had him. KW is not the answer to rebuild our team.

Good stuff, Jim, thanks. Me thinks Hawk and DJ believe Harris can't play. I'd have to agree with them.