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A big upside? He is 34. Hope it works out, but like ELo he's been a six-inning pitcher of late. In his last nine outings, he's gone 7 innings twice. He's been a 6 inning pitcher. Hopefully he'll strike out a lot of people like Freddie is doing. But if ELo won't listen to Oz, I guess the trade had to be made. Even though I love ELo.

The name of this thread is offensive. I don't feel like I was told to f*** off. I don't want more s*** ass trades.

I hate to be a prick, but to those who are hating on the Sox. ... We suck right now for ONE reason ... no Maggs, no Frank. In fact, we may be a .400 team without them if we don't find ourselves soon. I see no reason to blame anybody. We just suck without them. And who can blame us?? Personlly on my current s*** list are Everett (I don't like him for some reason), Willie (he fooled us early in the year Harris), Juan (he fooled us early in the year Uribe) and KW for taking away Olivo. But seriously how can we critique the Sox right now. WE HAVE NO MAGGS; NO FRANK. Role players are now having to have different roles and Jose V, Carlos, Paulie have yet to respond. It's nobody's fault. We are without 2 studs. Correcto????

No Frank, No Maggs. We can't adjust unfortunately. It's nobody's fault.

The problem is it's always something with teams that are hexed like our Sox. We are so slow afoot this year, but in past decades, we've had fast guys and still not won anything. We in past years haven't had good starters; now we do. If we make a movement for speed and defense, we'll probably have no bombers and have trouble scoring. I wish we'd try for a new GM again and see what happens with our next GM. The hex this year is we had the team with a healthy Frank n Maggs.

I should have said I also know he's in a better place. Hey send some Sox prayers for a woman I know. She's 30. Fainted in a grocery story. Found brain tumor. She hasn't woken up yet. She is one of those perfect people we all know. Everybody's praying. Life can suck but I believe in God.

I pray the 15 year old is in a better place and hope we all end up in that same place someday. Prayers to he and his family.

I love Jose. On a true team, somebody picks up a guy like Jose who has won a f***ing lot of games the past several years. Joe B coulda hit a f***ing pop fly to cf and we win. Somebody else coulda come through tonight. We got five hits. We gots no bats, folks. We lost Hurt and Maggs and nobody's stepping up. It ain't just Jose. If Joe B's single goes through yesterday, he gets Jose off the hook.

I'm not going to fall into the trap of blaming the skipper. We're sucking as a team because we can't hit without Maggs and Frank. Everett I hate to say, sucks, as a replacement.

In watching today's game I wondered if anybody would b**** about his start. Four runs is good enough, folks, especially at home. He did his job. He's hittable this year; last year he wasn't. He's still worth keeping.

I wish the rookie woulda taken a pitch, but I guess it could have easily been a single. He needed to uppercut and loft a fly ball. I'd like to hear Hawk's call and see if he wished he'd taken a pitch or if it didn't matter.

I'll give him props, also. Stats don't lie, and he's doing OK.

I think we are all realistic. That post became somthing of a loyalty issue and we all voted yes for the Sox having hope cause we are loyal. As far as reasons for optimism .... -like somebody said, the Cubs also swept us and we recovered. -Our starting pitching is pretty good in theory and might dominate in September. There's hope of that at least. --We've been streaky and we're hoping we aren't about to lose 10, 12 in a row, just four then win four, etc. --I will say without Maggs and Frank our lineup does not look like a division winner. We may need one more trade (gulp, thinking who the helll else KW will give up). I wish we'd trade to get Olivo back myself. But my hope rests in the fact our starting pitching looks good and our schedule looks easier than the assholes' schedule. There are legitimate reasons for hope that we can tread water til Frank and Magglio return.

Good point airdale! We should be developing players. We trade Miles and he looks good. We know Olivo is good. We keep Joe B and we better hope he develops. Too bad Uribe is flopping. Can you imagine if he'd stayed about .320 all year and produced like an all-star? We coulda used it.

Oz is sick of seeing him suck. Jose V. has produced big time in some clutch situations, so he's not a front runner regarding Jose who has proven he can play the game. I want Uribe to succeed, but it looks like he is what Oz says he is ... utility.

I hate people who keep repeatng themselves, but I think I'll repeat myself again. We are at best a 10 over .500 team. At worst 4 under. Is that good enough to win the division? That is the question.

Big Hurt don't get the Sox tattoos. There's always the chance our team could move or be disbanded someday and yu don't want a permanent tattoo of a team that doesn't exist.

I know he's not that bad, but I'm not a huge Everett supporer. Are we gonna bring him in every year and watch him see our team go down the drain? Why didn't we try somebody else this year? Why bring in Everett again? Joe B did look clueless today, but we might as well play him every day and see what happens. The guy is old enough. It's sink or swim time, but I admit he certainly looked stiff and useless at the plate today in my opinion. p.s. How did Ben Davis hit a home run? I saw that on TV and thought it was a mirage. Is there hope for Ben after all? He looked like a pitcher at the plate on his previous at bat, then next at bat he connects for a HR.

How do the Twinks win this division every year?

What's up with Juan U? Is he another D'Angelo?

Hope the medication helps. I'm not trying to belittle ya. You are an enthusiastic fan. Try to calm down in life, though. Nothing is worth sweating that much. Things tend to work themselves out.

This is key. Uribe must come thru.

Jeckle, I do feel for ya. Do you take medication?

You are being overly dramatic Jeckle. Just as if we won the first two of the series wouldn't guarantee us squat, losing the first 2 doesn't matter either. The problem is no Maggs; no Frank means big trouble, coupled with the fact Uribe is not the Uribe of early in the year; our catchers can't hit much and we have little to no speed. We're probably continue to be streaky which means we'll be in the horsecrap division race til the end.

--Who'd a thunk we'd go in such a slump after Crede's walk off homer. Proves there's no such thing as momentum.