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I thought we already had this order. I assumed we did just like KC. It's basically the same as before.

You still won't address mental health of greg. I need to get out or my mental problems will escalate. Health professionals have said by all means go to the park just practice social distancing. I go to the store and buy food when I need it rather than hoard. I do the drive through for coffee once a day. I sit in the park tables 3 hours a day. No one is ever there. You are saying over and over I am a murderer wannabee and yet I do nothing that is not condoned by the health experts. You say I am "literally trying to kill people." You say I am "threatening to murder someone." That is offensive and wrong and mean and cruel. I am doing nothing illegal and I'm trying to kill? Right. And you fail to address my mental health because you realize suddenly mental health of people mean nothing to people like you in this crisis. When before it was all about each individual's mental health and not offending them with pronouns, etc. And again you said I don't "respect the rules." OK ... name one rule I'm breaking. You are that upset I sit at a table in the park with nobody else in the vicinity and get a drive through coffee and food? All which are allowed? Thanks for nothing.

How do you get away with the personal insults of greg? This board had become kinder and gentler. I still haven't read your answer to my question about mental health? Why is my mental health disregarded as unimportant regarding being cooped in, being forced to grow long hair with all shops closed? When before corona it was ALL about mental health and "feelings" of people. Well my feeling is myself and many like me can't take being cooped up, jailed if you will. That's why I get out just a little bit in accordance to legal guidelines.

Badger u are a reasonable person. I give the floor to badger. It seems to me we will be under this lockdown probably until next spring. A whole year of never leaving our houses. My question to you is a.) do you agree there will be no gatherings of more than 2-5 people til May 2021 or so and b.) can America survive that? Economy will be 80 percent unemployment; all small businesses closed and long expired. Will there be public unrest and starvation? and finally c.) Why are other countries getting a handle on this and we aren't?

How come Italy got good news today on no new cases and China is dong well and everything is falling apart here? Does anybody else think it is "possible" germ warfare is going on?

Why does hanging out at a park make me a bad person if no people are around? The experts SAID we can get outside for fresh air. Geez. You are being overdramatic and mean and out of line with these two sentences ... • That would make you a bad person. • You are trying to be a murderer No I am not. How come with this issue there's no thought at all about mental frame of mind, mental illness if you will. But before corona it was all about everybody's mental health. Guess what this is endangering mental health! Now we are being tough on mental health needs! I NEED to get outside. My government is letting me go to grocery stores and drive throughs. Yes it is allowing trips to the park with recommendations to stay six feet from other peeps. The contact in a grocery store is 10 times that in a park where I stay away from people. I think you owe an apology. I assure you I am not a bad person and am not trying to be a murderer. Have you read the recommendations in Kansas? We are not trapped like rats. We are allowed to move around A BIT!!

I did take your advice. A few days ago I stopped watching. Now if I'm surfing and I get a headline that's crazy I'll open it. But I can't take this. I am getting in habit of not being able to do much tho.

I think the only hope for sports until we have a vaccine is MAYBE games without fans. I would say this season is over. But maybe next season could start in June with no fans. No chance for NBA, NHL the rest of this season and next (seasons start during flu season). College football season is out of the question unless it's deemed safe with no fans. College basketball season will be wiped out in 2020-21, hiopefully 21-22 will be played maybe with no fans. Just my takes.

Will the guys be paid for not playing? My guess is there is no season with fans, but they could probably have some sort of tournament in late August and September unless our country is really doomed? You'd think at some point it'd be moderately safe to possibly play games with no fans before the next wave of this hits in next flu season. So would guys get full salaries for a 6 week season with no fans at games?

Why am I the bad guy here? I'm basically obeying all the rules. I just ask questions. Guess what, sir. ... The buses are still running here. The grocery stores are packed. Think about how one grocery sacker is in contact with people all day and could be infecting people. ... You are still allowed to walk outside and go into establishments to order food and get out. ... My point is we can restrict movement a lot and are restricting movement a lot, but if you totally force us to stay inside there will eventually be death and destruction and unrest in the streets because people are living paycheck to paycheck and soon will have no food and/or be homeless. I am not the bad guy. I have come into contact with almost no human beings this past week except when shopping which we are allowed to do lest we die of starvation. I have hoarded nothing. I probably have enough food to last 10 days maybe. The bad guys are the kids who pack the beaches and packed the bars for St. Paddy Day fun in Chicago, pissing off government officials who need to relax the isolation just a little bit!! The bad guys are the ones with 70 rolls of toilet paper and people who won't stop buying it until they have enough for a full year. Why am I the bad guy here?? Peace to all and may the world overcome this.

Those teens are doing great damage then. Me and my 2 hours driving around and maybe going through a drive through or sitting in a park sounds like will do minimal damage compared to them. What do you want me to do? I have to get out or I will go insane and likely die. I hope people aren't to the point they wish some die. No compromise? I agree with Kevin Hassett. I mean it's late March and we are upset with people who leave their places and walk around a bit in society each day. You think we're going to allow massive crowds for baseball games anytime soon? They won't be playing spectator sports before spectators for a long, long, time, folks. Not in May, not in June, not in July. Will they ultimately have games with no spectators? Made for TV? Not in this environment.

They won't want to put the people they arrest in jail to spread corona so will they just shoot them? Where to put the offenders?

Well at this point I'm like you. I'm not galavanting anywhere. I venture to say if you are going to the store for bread, etc., I am coming into contact with no more people per day than you are. I'm not doing anything. I'm trying to say there has to be compromise or there will be no economy. I guess those who hoarded can watch me slowly die once there is no economy.

How do you know that the end of the economy, millions of people out of work resorting to rioting won't be just as bad or worse? Don't blame me for the toilet paper. That's on society. I've not hoarded anything. I got 9 TV dinners, that's it. Then I'm starving if they shut down everything.

I just feel like the governors are flexing their muscles too much. No discussion with the citizens just hear the medical reports and decide to lock everybody down. I see in Florida they still are being reasonable. Business can be open with up to 50 people as long as there is proof of social distance of 6 feet or more between people in the buildings. I just fear we're going to be locked down for up to eight weeks. Cmon, there has to be a better way to combat this than force us all to be in homes for eight weeks. It's not going to be one or two weeks in our homes; it's going to be 10 weeks and there will be no toilet paper for the commoners like me and no food. Cause I ain't getting in line at 5 a.m. for a store to open at 7 and me run in there like a madman. I'll die first, which I'm sure I will anyway. I don't sense alarmism from many folks, that's all. It seems like everybody is OK with staying inside 8 weeks. Will one of you that knows how to cut hair fly to Kansas and cut my hair before I'm a longhair 70s guy? Barbershops are closed. Lawrence is going to be a ghosttown with most of these coronavirus-closed businesses going to go out of business. I guess we'll cross that bridge later.

The New York Post is right. Too much alarmism. Americans are going to eventually rebel. I have been pointing out the economic impact of all this should not be denied as well as mental health of Americans like me who have a problem being cooped up. God help us all. Post says: As Americans prepare for “a lot of change to their lives for a long time,” New York’s Josh Barro believes, “part of the coronavirus conventional wisdom has become too pessimistic.” While we will be fighting the virus ­“unless, and until, we develop a vaccine or highly effective medical treatments,” the “nature of the disruption does not have to stay constant”: A testing surge “should, in time, allow for more normal living,” something we have seen in other countries. That’s good news, as is the fact “effective antiviral treatments” may be “available much sooner than a vaccine.” The “economic, social and psychological effects of extended, societywide isolation measures are going to be severe” — and the public might quit complying. “Extensive testing, monitoring and isolation related to specific coronavirus cases” would “be much less painful and disruptive.”

Sale is one of those guys like Verlander who don't like to come out of games. He's 30 and now needs the surgery. Most guys seem to get the surgery before 30 nowadays so he had a good run.

I love the people pounding me don't accept the fact it's OK to ask questions about the economy as well as health. I think I have the right to ASK you all for your opinions while believing it will not be good when 3/4s of the businesses here close. In Lawrence, Kansas, which right now is deserted with the students GONE for good til August or whenever, every business in town except grocery stores and stores where u go in and get out quick are closed. A barber friend was on facebook yesterday saying he's wrecked emotionally because he has no money and he has no idea what he's going to do with the shop ordered closed. He has wife and kids. It's worth asking why he can't have one person come in at a time for haircuts. It's OK for me to wonder how we all can't get haircuts the next six weeks. I'm getting slammed despite the fact I'm staying indoors and working from home ALMOST all of the day. I will venture out in search of coffee and maybe some groceries and maybe a meal because I am mentally challenged by being trapped inside like a rat. Now I've been told by one business owner it's OK to eat outdoors on his outdoor tables or drink coffee outdoors as long as no people are in the vicinity. I ask if it's necessary to shut everything down. Why? Because it's all relative. Buses are still running here. Planes are still flying out of KCI. Some stuff is still going on. Meanwhile if I try to sit down in a restaurant I get arrested. And no ... I do not trust the ONE politician in Kansas making all the decisions, the governor.

Now we can't get a haircut til April 12 here, surely it'll be longer than that. I wonder if this will be like Prohibition. Barbers sneaking people in their garages for emergency haircuts. We're all gonna look like these guys soon enough. https://www.google.com/search?q=70s+haircuts+male&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=oq4WPFr9XxGwfM%3A%2Czrb4FTrz4KDt8M%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kS25s-DQZpLd0yYeahdRMsIxHdXig&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjC7_CluafoAhUBI6wKHRYuByYQ9QEwA3oECAoQLA#imgrc=oq4WPFr9XxGwfM:

You know flights have been busy up until late last week when all the tournaments got canceled. This is about one week old panic in the USA. These airlines really are pretty brittle since they can't survive a week or two of very little business. Man ... perhaps some of these CEOs will stop making gads of money in the future. But as far as the airlines ... it just takes a week or two to blast them out of business?

Guess what folks. Spring break goes on til Monday. Kids are packed on the beaches. Read Twitter you'll see. Think they aren't going to return to a lot of states spreading corona???? Meanwhile blast me for wanting to drink a coffee in some shop with 3 people in it. Judging from this board and others, all those people on the beaches will be responsible for a TON of misery. Anybody care?

I'm just curious though if it's a double-edged sword. I have scoured Lawrence Kansas the past week. Finally Wednesday, every restaurant and coffee shop have been shut down to customers being able to sit inside. Some were slower than others getting the word, but they are all closed except for take out and delivery. Students are gone eight weeks earlier than usual. Obviously this town as well as all others that have been effectively shut down except for supermarkets and other stores that I guess you can go in and buy stuff then get out will have at least half of its stores close down for good because of lack of customers. Is completely wrecking the economy (will these homeless people need to rob and riot a few weeks from now to get any food at all) worth shutting down so many businesses and wrecking them? The 50 person limit here was fine; it went to 10 after one day. I'm just suggesting economic misery that is about to come (so many people are going to be laid off the next 2 weeks it'll make our heads spin) may not be worth reacting so hardline regarding the virus. I mean why are the airplanes flying? One flight could sent 50-200 infected people into their towns. I'd bet you that's way more than 10 people in a restaurant or 45 people in a church in Lawrence Kansas.

People think I am scum for being stircrazy and wanting to go to coffee shops that have 2-3 people total in there or bakeries like Panera to work and spend some time. What about these kids partying in Florida? They don't care about corona. It's like there has to be some middle ground. Surprised there's not more outcry with 1/2 of the country's workforce surely to be laid off soon. Businesses are closed, folks ...https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1240371160078000128?s=20

Nice thoughtful post. I agree with your second and third sentences a lot. I don't like reading or listening to news either because of the uncertainty. It seems to me there have been rash decisions after rash decisions with the obvious goal to make us all stay home. I personally don't think it's un-American to question this a bit. We've gone from a carefree country mostly discussing partisan politics this past year and doing whatever the hell we want to do to being told to stay cooped up and don't dare leave your abode. I happen to question why we can't sit in a coffee shop and work when there always are no more than 5 people in there. While I tend to agree with social distancing nobody knows for sure if sitting in a coffee shop in Lawrence Kansas at 2 p.m. on.a Wednesday is harming me and the world both. I liked the fact there was a story that Kansans are "outraged" the decision was made to close all schools at all levels. While I may agree with the decision I think some of these decisions are a bit harsh with no public input. Just shut up and do what the experts say. Forgive me for not handling staying home very well. It's difficult for some of us to deal with even if it may be a selfish attitude.

You'd be surprised. I've read. I've heard. I read. I hear. I may not want to listen or read but I read enough daily to know why we are doing what we are doing. If you gave me a test on corona and what it means, etc., I would pass the test. I read that latest study that was making the rounds yesterday that listed what would have happened had we made no response. I want a calculated response, something that doesn't totally destroy 3/4s of all businesses in America, something that doesn't force 3/4 of the working force to be laid off their jobs. Not enough talk about some of these things, just the virus. What I'm saying is there should be some compromise or really, truly this will be zombieland soon. Very few people will have a job. Very few people will have any food. Nobody will have any gas to drive anywhere. All it will take then is a few incidents to cause civil unrest and yes maybe the end of America.