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It's only the fifth inning. I realize Lester is probably going to cruise with the big lead, but it'd be very nice if the Sox could make this a game. Light into a few pitches and make it 6-4 by the seventh.

I wanna hear from PTATC.

Richie, most of the board has praised Gio greatly this season. It's OK to blast him for walking the bases loaded. Game ova at that point. Not to rub it in but we've really played well since Ricky tried to bunt with one out. Way to go Ricky. Yeah, it's a one-run game where we should be bunting with one out. Idiotic. I'm so mad when I think about that bunt!!! This is the AL. You don't bunt with one out when a HR is always a possibility, even against Lester.

He's the K-Stater who got hit in the head with the batted ball. I feel for him and am proud of his comeback but all indications are he blows.

This Evan Marshall guy is no good it appears. Hate to be that guy, but this game appears to be ova (only cause Cubs figure to score more this inning and put it out of reach).

I agree with this post. Fully.

Farmer didn't get too specific. He did blast Gio for the walks. Said when you walk the bases full that shit like Schwarber's bloop tends to happen.

Yes sir. I wouldn't dare start Gio. Maybe give him an inning later in game or in middle innings.

Not scared. Out of whack. Mechanics way off. For whatever reason. I'm open to suggestions, why the fricking anger??

Heaven forbid he be hurt. ... He's certainly out of whack. Anybody have a reason why he's so wild now? Are pitchers like hitters? Is he gonna have to adjust a bit?

I'm giving our boys a break cause some of the guys ain't ready for prime time which is OK. We don't exactly prepare them with packed stadiums often. Would love to see us get out of this with one more run then actually go to work and score some runs at home.

Normally I'd be furious but packed house, obviously Gio is all out of whack with his mechanics. And Eloy has no clue defensively tonight with the packed house (and bright sun earlier). Eloy was a statue there. Throw to second and Schwarber woulda been out. Gio needs refresher work on what he's trying to do on the mound. This folks is a game some of these young players will remember and learn from. It'd be nice if our hitters could bail us out and outslug the Cubbies 11-8 or something.

I feel for Lucas. He's got that tall frame of his out of whack. It's not easy. Like Farmer just said he has to be free flowing. We either get a DP here or lose, it's that simple. Big inning potential.

I'm watching mlb but listening to Farmer and Darrin. I like them but Darrin just made me sick. He's calling for a triple play. Bush league color announcing there. Don't beg for triple plays.

Lester is good but AL teams have no business bunting!! What if he woulda lit into one? Different ballgame.

BackDoor: Are u of the opinion there will not be enough money to throw around? Remember this is a team with owner and partners having so much profit the last few seasons cause of the low payroll the money has made their wallets George Costanza-sized.

I can't believe how some people aren't "sentimental" any more about guys who have been with the team a long time. I get the feeling the ideal team to some fans is one in which every player is between the ages of 25 and 29 with the exception of some pitchers. For some reasons the modern stat minded fan doesn't mind having some elder pitchers on the team. In my perfect world, a guy like Jose is our feel good story of our next postseason or 2 and he is knocking the ball all over the park in leading us to ALCS and WS titles and he's the guy crying and hoisting the trophy during the parade(s).

Richie .. this is exactly what I proposed basically. I said three years 39 million with a team option. This is 2 years 25 million (12.5 per year) with no third year. Everybody loved poppy's post and hated mine yet both offers were almost the same. Jose isn't exactly ancient. Next year will be his age 33 season. What's wrong with giving a loyal soldier 13 mill a year when you consider what the Sox paid Alonso? Why not give some of jerry's nestegg to a guy who deserves some money?? Also I love somebody on here saying 120 Jose RBIs next year are "solid numbers." 120 RBIs are a lot of RBIs. Excellent numbers, not just solid. I can't believe how we take Jose for granted around here. Even if we paid him 13 mill the next three years and he averaged .225 with 21 homers and 76 RBIs I wouldn't hate him because of what he's done in past seasons. I don't think he's going to suddenly reek in age 33 and 34 seasons. It's kind of like KC fans with alex gordon. Even though he's dipped fans don't begrudge him some $$s for past performance. Although Gordon does have a boatload of RBIs this season.

Rios to greg is a four-letter word. I did not like his game. Leury has won me over pretty much. I.Love.Leury at this time.

In answer to your question, you can't move on from a trade that bad. It also is the same in the draft. Remember Durant vs. Oden? The GM that took Oden got fired after it was obvious Durant was Durant and Oden was unfortunately (because of injury) an all time bust. You can't ever forget a trade as bad as the Tatis trade because it's sports. The trade was that bad it can't be forgotten .... The good news is the Eloy trade is another one that will never be forgotten and that's on the good ledger. Both trades will go down in infamy. Because we're talking sports here, both trades will be remembered forever.

Pete Alonso. ... second rounder in 2016. Why did the Sox and other teams miss on him?? Is Vaughn of the 2019 draft destined to hit bombs like this guy?

The way Leury is hitting I no longer have a problem seeing his name in the lineup. He's another guy having a very nice season. Damn ... Ricky does have some talent to work with. Leury can hit a bit to go with the studs Eloy, Moncada, Timmy, Abreu and McCann this season. I guess the rotation of Gio and Cease and pray for rain and one reliable reliever in Colome and spotty defense is nuff to keep us under .500. I. Like. Leury.

I haven't called anybody that 'nik' word in a long time. I try to be respectful. I'm using "advanced stat lovers" or "advanced stat people" or stat worshipers, etc, and I always say "many" not all any more. there are no absolutes. I read your full post but like the above mentioned part the best. i did not realize these things when I was rebelling greatly against you. The fact you wear an Abreu jersey is good enough for me. You are not a Jose disliker. Sorry for lumping you in the wrong group. I agree with the above mentioned lines and say thank you for recognizing Jose's value! I also love Vile's logical defense of Jose as well. But thank you Chicago White Sox! You wear the jersey of Abreu and said you recognize his value to the clubhouse, etc. You would win any arguments how Manny is more valuable than Jose but thank you for the Jose love! You are OK in my book. Sorry if I implied you were ill informed! You are OK by me. BTW I think this is a correct statement by you. You said: "All that being said, comparing his offensive numbers to Machado to try to justify paying him more is without question poor logic. Positions matter and a good 1B should hit better than a 3B all else being equal. Ballparks matter and the Grate is a much more friendly stadium than Petco. And when it comes to handing out contracts, age matters because you are paying for future production. When combined, all these factors make Manny Machado a terrible comp for what Jose Abreu should get if extended." (All true, I think Vile and I realize Jose isn't worth Manny money, we'd just like to see him take a bit of Jerry's money. I was saying instead of the one-year 8 million somebody mentioned, I'd like to see him get 3 years 39 million. Then all one year deals the rest of his career. Or two years 26 mill with a team option for a third year.

You are appreciated, vile, good stuff.

Great great post. I love these posters not married to the advanced stats.