greg775

Am about to land in Chicago for the holiday. Think I'll head to Portillos for some beef then check out the lights in Mt. Greenwood. Anything happening on the south side tonight?

I want the WS title. A lot of you guys despise Ozzie, whom I love. He brought us the title in 2005. His letting those starters go so deep in games was really a good managerial move. Now it's Ricky's turn. WS titles are all that matter. We don't realize how good we have it completing the deal in 05 and not just making the WS then losing.

I agree. These two are different. Once the Sox get good again, we will be a destination for top free agents. I think if Eloy stays healthy he's for real and Moncada and Tim are special young talents. We also have some pitching that is probably going to click at some point and we are gonna start winning and we'll get free agents. The Sox will be popular again.

No comment to those two sentences. That said, thank you to the owner and the mods for their work. I don't think the board has been out of control lately even in the Machado thread. Some people think we truly have a chance at Manny and Harper, others think we've never had an iota of a chance and we're being used by agents. I tend to think we won't get either but I could be mistaken. Cheers. Happy Holidays. Watch "It's a Wonderful Life" or Alastair Sim's Scrooge to get you in the holiday mood. GO SOX!

I don't think that matters a bit. He knows he's the man wherever. I'm just using common sense. The signing of the brother-in-law was masterful by the Sox considering the Sox have made it clear they will pay as much or more than any other team. My only other common sense point is usually players just take the most $$ (Hosmer to the awful Pads, etc).

Common sense tells me his wife would be very upset if they don't take the Chicago offer considering they signed her brother. I mean with money being about the same from wherever they go. The other possibility is Manny just tells his agent to go with the team that offers the most money and years ... period and get back to him when that is finalized.

Good article but Harold's a big boy. He'll be fine. I mean a lot of Hall of Fame selections get panned in the media. It's an easy story/column to diss somebody's election to the Hall. Hopefully the fans will fill the Cell for a ceremony recognizing Harold for this honor this season some game.

I'm glad Teahen got some mention. Boy he was a bad hitter. Why'd you not like Zisk? He hit some roof shots and was pretty much the heart and soul of SouthSide Hitmen. George Bell had to be the only player in baseball history to b**** about playing time during the playoffs. My gosh, that's dysfunctional. I didn't hate the Dybber but hated what he did. Probably cost the White Sox a world series title that year. Yes his blunder was that bad. Hoyt wins Game Five EASILY.

Kotsay stunk. Wow. So did that guy from the University of Nebraska, Erstad. My gosh those two guys were horrible.

Chet Lemon, Ozzie, Konerko, Buehrle, Big Hurt, Baines. Sure I'm forgetting many.

Rios, Clayton, Dunn and Melky. Not sure why I despised them so much. I should be ashamed. Right now in thinking of them I don't feel the same hatred as before.

The Bears are back, baby, and the future looks bright. We got the QB. We got the front office not afraid to make a move. We got a head coach. You read it here first: Bears over Chiefs in Super Bowl, yes this year's Super Bowl.

I don't mind the deal, but I do wonder what some of our posters who have been positive or quiet about this deal, the ones who stress age and amount of money a player makes is important, truly thinks about this deal? Yonder is old by board preference standards (turns 32 in April). And frankly, his stats? Is there any doubt the younger, lower paid Palka and Davidson given these same amount of at bats in a plattoon/DH could do as well or better than Alonso? I believe they could do as well as an every-day Alonso. That said ... it is a great move for an organization trying to sign Manny. It's obvious to me this will help greatly in trying to land Manny. Of course you'd think he wants to play baseball with his brother in law. Prescient move by Hahn in that regard. I would like to hear from those who thought Avi was overpaid and too old for the rebuild and all that. Take Manny out of the equation and I would think most of the Soxtalk regulars should be against this trade. So are you for the deal greatly because the Sox could and maybe will get Manny as a byproduct of it? If Manny like George Bailey had never been born would you still like this deal?? Speak up please. For the record ... I credit Hahn for thinking outside the box here but remember I worshiped Davidson and Avi and they are gone.

Thank goodness. I want to see him hoist our next WS trophy. We need some WHITE SOX veterans. We're not going to win it all with newbies folks. We need Abreu to be around for the title.

Good job Fathom. I would expect this will help the Sox land Machado. Why else would we acquire Alonso. Sox looking good for Manny. Hope he continues to rake if we get him.

I don't care either way. I have heard of this guy which for greg is something to cheer about when we make a move. However, these 2 graphs in the ESPN story intrigue greg. ... The article said: "The 28-year-old McCann hit .220 with eight homers and 39 RBIs in 118 games last season with Detroit. The rebuilding Tigers didn't offer him a contract for the 2019 season, making him a free agent.McCann was selected by the White Sox in the 31st round of the 2008 draft, but he decided to go to the University of Arkansas instead. He then was drafted by the Tigers in the second round in 2011." The rebuilding Tigers don't want him but the rebuilding Sox do? Weird. He is a former second round pick. That's talent right there according to scouts. GO SOX!

Please Sox don't sign Bradley. I do not wish to have him on our team. Thank you.

We've had some horrific pitchers on our team, starters and relievers, since 2005. Really bad ones.

How so. This board loves the idea of flipping guys at the all star break for prospects. We could easily be doing that. Acquiring guys we can trade if they get fixed or even better than they are by Coop.

Yeah but he's "pretty good." Sounds like we truly might get Harper, though.

I would love to get him back. Just for the reasons KW suggested. The guy hustles, cares, is a gamer and has some hitting ability. He's not the only outfielder in MLB who gets hurt a lot, folks. They are out there. It happens.

I have said many times I don't give a flip about Jerry and the partners' wallets. However I am a realist, albeit an annoying one to many. As a realist I am saying it would be dumb to offer 50-100 million more just to make sure we get him. Maybe call the Yankees' bluff and offer a tad more than they do, but this is one player. Heaven forbid something happen to him paying him all that moolah. Again ... I am all for making Jerry hurt in the wallet, I truly am. I just wonder about giving one guy all that loot when oh, so many injuries occur in sports. If you say I'm a hypocrite, then nix the first part of this post and let me change to say "Pay him whatever it takes; greg wants him!" As I do want him, but if you understand my position, even the better.

The guy almost got 3000 hits? The controversy is annoying. He's a credit to the game of baseball but more than that deserves it. Congrats Mr. Baines. We love you in Soxdom.

This is an alarming theory. If we are not "coaching and treating" players correctly this rebuild could be a self defeating prophecy. We got a lot of younguns being developed in our system. If a majority are all busts because of poor coaching, yikes. I have a sneaky feeling Eloy is going to be the best hitter in the game in a short period of time. That's why if we somehow added Machado and Harper, to go with Tim and Moncada and Abreu even, we might be special for a long time to come.

If we decide not to compete in 2019, why not? We need innings eaters. One year, 4 million with incentives. He's probably worth that just as a good influence on the staff.