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QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) I do think it's kinda hilarious how I go into every game thinking we can win, compared to 2015 when we were "competing" and I went into every game thinking "how could we possibly score enough to win?" edit: And we are 20 games below that team. With all due respect, you think we can win when Shields, Holland or Pelphrey pitches? Or are u talking about the last 2 weeks? QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 04:54 PM) Wasn't Greg the person who said that originally? More proof Ron = Greg. Greg was serious as TA's numbers were projecting OK for a catcher offensively not so much as a SS. TA is hot and I love it but some of you forget how badly he was hitting. HIs free swinging style, ala, Salvy Perez swinging at everything, made him an intriguing transformation candidate to catcher. I had my reasons. Ron is trolling big time.

Sale and Q would be looking mighty good in a wildcard game. You get in the 7 game series and anything can happen. Sox bullpen probably would have imploded as had been the pattern in previous seasons, however. Good closer but the setup guys probably would have imploded.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 02:31 AM) Forgot about catcher. Tim Anderson will be the catcher Cool if true.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 12:58 AM) We can win it all in 2018 I worship u as a fan, but how? We ain't got the projected roster yet for 2018.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 12:10 AM) This team looks good enough to compete for the WC or division next year. Indiana have some stats who are aging. Never know what happens in baseball. Sox will also have Kopech and eloy at some point. Rodon/Kopech/Lopez/giolito/ shields or guerrero or Stephens or Adams 1B abreu 2B moncada SS TA 3b Davidson/nicky/yolmer DH delmonico/davidson/abreu RF avi CF leury/engel LF nicky/eloy Supersubs yolmer/leury Bullpen - wing it. I think this team will be a pleasant surprise and the Sox very May well have a chance to compete. Not quite. Lineup isn't good enough yet unless Eloy is in it and Robert is in it. You didn't list a catcher. We have none good enough and Leury and Nicky frankly aren't playoff caliber starting players. The bullpen is so bad it's beyond description. Starters Rodon (hurt) and Giolito and Lopez are great but again, Rodon is hurt and two starters aren't enough. Team would have to do a lot of work roster wise to win next year.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Sep 14, 2017 -> 01:23 AM) Giolito was coming on strong in his last 4 or 5 starts in the minors. Heaping credit on Coop while asking is he our only good coach is naive. The Sox have a system wide pitching philosophy in place. SUre Cooper deserves credit but so do all the pitching coaches throughout the minor league system. If true, great. What about hitting instruction?

QUOTE (Scoots @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 10:28 PM) What a fricking outstanding season for Avi. The whole damn year. Pushing that average back to .330 now. Wasn't down to nearly .300 like a month or so ago? Just amazing. Love this post, Scoots. Avi mania. QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 10:43 PM) Another great start for Giolito. Boy remember when people were freaking out about his 5-6 ERA in AAA a matter of months ago? Cooper is that good. Is he the only good coach in our organization? Not trying to flame or anger anybody, just asking cause Coop has a lot of success stories.

KEEP WINNING. I love it.

Anderson, Avi, Abreu (sac fly), Giolito, Moncada. Am I forgetting anybody? As expected, Moncada and TA with good series off the Royals' horrific staff. TA nearing .260 BA. He's turned his season around and should be vaulting on the lists of baseball's top prospects after fighting thru the personal tragedy.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 13, 2017 -> 08:18 PM) Jose Abreu has skills that don't always age particularly well, while Lorenzo Cain does. Jose Abreu is a good player and will likely provide positive value until he is 36 or 37. There is reason to look to sign Abreu to an extension. Cain gets hurt fairly regularly though. Glad to hear from a supporter that seeks an extension for Abreu.

Since we're discussing Jose's salary and worth, I looked up some things. Here is how my mind works as an eye test, traditional stat guy and not an advanced stat guy and also NOT an age guy. Many people on this site (most?) are advanced stat people, definitely age people and definitely not eye test people. Jose turns 31 in January. So because of him being old by "new" age baseball standards, I'm of the opinion 'most' Sox fans would not want to pay him anything significant. He's ARB the next two years and free agent in 2020. There's no way in hell any new-age fan is going to want to sign him for the 2020 season at anything more than 8-10 million a year. Tell me if I'm wrong. My point is: They'll be OK if he gets paid decent bucks in arb. the next two seasons as we continue to lose, but if fans have their way NO WAY JOSE will be part of the rebuild. My question to you is ... some teams still will sign guys like Jose. Why in the hell would they do that entering his age 34 season? We're not the only organization that has an advanced stat fan base and front office that considers anybody over 32 OLD OLD OLD. So who is gonna pay these guys? What teams will want a 34 year old Jose at the 15-20 a mill pricetag in 2020? I would say by then Sox fans would be OK with 6-10 mill a year MAX for Jose going forward. Now Please comment on these Royals. Hosmer: Free agent turns 28 in October. Hmmm, most fans would be in favor of signing him 3 years max at about 20 mill a year. After that he's getting old. What do you say he's worth? Is Boras going to get him a Verlander like deal? Do the big money teams give him 7 years, 25 to 30 mill a year?? He'll be mighty old at the end of that 7 year deal. Moustakas: Free agent turned 29 on Sept. 11. Hmmm, getting old by fan standards. Again, I'd suspect most fans would be 'OK' with 3 years at 15-20 mill a year for Moustakas. What team is gonna give him 7 year deal at 20 to 25 mill a year?? He'll be 36 and a bum at the end of that deal if you go by the age police. Finally, Cain: Free agent turns 32 in April. My gosh that is OLDDDDDDD. He has good advanced stats this year, horrible traditional stats of 49 RBI. Now according to the new wave baseball age police he's way too old to get a good deal now. Fans happy with 8 mill a year the next 3 years? But will the Mets or Yankees or somebody give him a 6-year deal at 18-20 mill a year?? What say you? I want to be educated on how age factors in what fans think nowadays. Don't forget, Cespedes got a 4 year deal at about 26 mill a year last offseason. He's been hurt. Had a horrible year by traditional stats, good WAR.

Scoots is a great fan; that is all. Read his posts to see why I say that. Go Scoots! Keep posting!

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) Aurora was 2-0 but they're a small school. Rice's schedule this year is pretty brutal. I'd kinda be shocked if they made playoffs. Thanks Brian. Anybody from the South Side or Catholic League got a great team this year?

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 03:56 AM) What'd he say about me?! Nothing bad. You can hate on greg but have to admit I do not insult people. Never. QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 02:08 PM) No but when someone floats around opinions such as Tim Anderson should be moved to catcher people tend to not want to waste their time reading that. Why? Opinions are like cups of coffee. You drink them in, respond to whether the coffee was good or not this day and move on. If the opinion offered differs from yours it's supposed to at least test your response mechanism for a few seconds then your day continues. QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 05:05 PM) To be fair, there were a lot of posts about him being bad or at least well on his way to being bad. It wasn't just Ronnie Woo Woo and his annual Abreu is DFA-worthy thread. Thank you Dick. This is the way it is with many of my posts. Somebody once in a while points out, uh, my concerns are REAL. Thanx Dick. QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 05:11 PM) It looks like Jose is going to go over 150 games played and over 4 fWAR. Great season from El Oso. Yes Greg, I'm also impressed that he's going to drive in over 100 again as well. Jose is one of the few guys I've watched that is a legit RBI guy. He changes his approach with runners on and less than two outs and usually it results in a well placed line drive and an RBI. He is not up there looking to walk or drive in 5 runs with one swing -- and his approach works. Jose please start a Jose appreciation thread and lets see how many respond in kind fashion. Thanx Chitown. I loved your post.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 03:53 AM) Jose might be the best hitter in the league when nothing is on the line. He's just killing it. Wish I could see splits for batting when his team is above 500 vs below 500. Tried but couldn't find it. Man you are mean. Jose Abreu is on a roll. I love watching him hit. You guys can give me all the advanced stats you want and I'll still say I love Jose Abreu's production.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 03:41 AM) He singled out the young guys, and he's excited about Eloy and Kopech in the future especially. I can accept that.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 12, 2017 -> 02:35 AM) I got to talk with Benetti in person the other day. He basically said the same thing - this year is way more enjoyable than last year where we were actually trying to win. I won't argue your point except to say Jason must not be counting having to watch Holland, Pelfrey and Shields pitch and some of those relievers. Watching those 3 starters pitch -- and they've pitched a lot -- has been a horrible experience for the eyes.

My goodness what a bomb by Engel. KC's bullpen is truly horrific, but WOW that ball was smashed. Three-run homer. Notice Avi just poke that single up the middle? It's not a fluke folks. Mr. Garcia has learned how to hit. Whoever taught him how to hit should be coaching our young hitters when they come up or before. Nice to beat the hell out of the Royals, who have absolutely no pitching. p.s.: Abreu is amazing.

This series might be good for Moncada. He'll rake this miserable KC pitching staff perhaps.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 10:23 PM) lol I keep thinking I'll catch a non-insane post from you, but nope you don't break. Jenksy u make no sense. OK let's look at it quickly ... Robin: Worst manager in baseball; maybe second worse in Sox history behind Bevington. LaRussa, Leyland, Francona (who we coulda got) ... three of the best in baseball history. Eight games??? Hell yes. Do u realize how bad nice-guy Robin was and how good these three are???

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 10:29 PM) Sure am glad that the free agent market isn't the only place to find a good closer. They can be traded for later as needed or even better, develop one. Hmm, a good example might be the one a few are pining for. Yep, it was the White Sox that developed Reed as a closer. Point is, why go out and sign Addison Reed when it's possible we already have the future closer in the system? The Sox have a ton of lively arms and I see no reason why the future closer will not come from within the Sox system. Lol, f***ing incredible. After all the complaining about Robertson's contract, the Sox find a team to trade for that contract and the next great idea is to repeat that process with Reed? Insanity. I appreciate your post until the end. People complaining about Robertson's contract were out of line, IMO. The man is/was a good closer and worth the $$. Sox dumped him cause no need for him now and get good prospects for him during a tank job. But why would anybody complain about his contract? If we had a good team he'd be a suitable to good closer. We just didn't need him since we are apt to stink not only this year but next. He actually was one of the few guys we've paid big bucks to since the WS that was earning his keep money wise.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 03:10 PM) greg is basically yelling at a cloud, arguing against a stance no one has taken. I've sensed a lot of anti Abreu talk on the site. You haven't? People want him traded. People ignoring his 31/90 like it's nothing. I've given people a chance on my praise Jose posts. Silence. You haven't read the posts saying if we can get anything good get rid of Jose? I've said we need some hard core older White Sox when we get good again to go with the kids. Silence. QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 03:15 PM) I am baffled by the posters who still argue Greg isn't a troll. I think they got so numb to his deliberately ignorant and/or silly posts that they no longer even bother to read them. No idea why more people don't block him. Why would you block a die-hard Sox fan. Cause his opinion differs from yours? Sure I get mad when I feel like people are dissing Abreu and Davidson. I get frustrated. So I keep trying to sway opinion or at least get somebody to offer some praise, in this case Jose and/or Davidson. Now a guy like Saladino? In the past I praised him as well. People said he was utility at best. They were right. I was wrong. I admit it and shut up. Saladino is no good. I do agree.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 08:07 PM) So again, Francona or Leyland or LaRussa were worth 8+ wins alone? During a season in the Robin era? Yes. We're talking from Day One preparation in spring training through the regular season. Of course they'd be 8 or more wins better than Robin. Robin was that bad. Inexperienced and pretty much a managing buffoon. Great player? Of course. Manager? Horrific.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 09:08 PM) 1) Reed is better than anybody the team has now in the bullpen, which isn't saying much. This has now become the worse White Sox bullpen since 1970. Sox brass and Sox fans don't care. We're still in the tank/rebuild mode. If we wanted a real closer next year to contend or for whatever other reason we'd have kept Robertson, WBWSF, right? It's not Reed time yet. Sox still want to lose; kids aren't ready and fans are being patient and not putting pressure on anybody to win now. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 09:24 PM) Until the Sox need a good bullpen, they aren't going to spend money on one. They may go dumpster diving for arms this winter, but they aren't spending big money until they know A.) they will be good enough to need to spent, and B.) which starters are going to fail and get used in the pen, and which of these arms acquired as relievers will be able to stick out there. The market for Addy Reed is far from the store the Sox will be shopping in this winter. He is more of the Macy's market, while the White Sox will be garage sailing. Exactly. Sox aren't interested in signing anybody for the big league roster right now. Sure they'd sign guys for the minor leagues if they are young enuf but they aren't looking for real players yet.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 08:55 PM) So going from Robin to Rick added 8+ games to the win column? Interesting I'm not saying it had to be Rick. When we got Robin wasn't Francona available? Remember I was talking about begging Leyland or LaRussa to save us?