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QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 05:39 AM) I've asked several times but you ignore any request for logic yet I'll try again for some reason: 1) Who should they have signed? Name a real life person, not a mythical elite 25 year old stud that will sign for 10 million that I think you picture in your mind. 2) Since the mythical players in your mind are just that, do you not believe in payroll caps or do you think the team's payroll should be 200mil? 300 mil? Is there a cap or should they spend like the Giambi Yankee days? 3) Say they do commit to a bunch of guys just to appease you and have a 150m payroll and win 80 games instead of 70 next year. What happens when those guys flop or are taking time away from a legit prospect 2 years down the road? What happens when you have a solid young core in 2020 but you stupidly committed money to a bunch of aging stars in 2018 so you no longer have any money to fill real holes? Do you not see how stupid it would be to commit long term money to guys now before we know what our needs will be a couple years from now when all these kids make their way up? Also, YOU claiming anyone is basing anything off of 2005 is incredible. You've got me on the first question. I don't have time right now to check all the free agents, who was available and if they did well or not. I know Cespedes and Grandy were talked bout for a while. Were there any catchers available? I forget. 2.) personally yes I want a high payroll. I mean we're not going to win the pennant with all kids. Even the Royals built up their payroll for the recent good years by acquiring some guys to fill needs. 3.) Some may say the ship has sailed right now as far as need to sign free agents until the guys we got in trade are ready. But I think with a good manager we could have kept Sale and Q and stayed the course and made some acquisitions heading into the season that probably would have made us a contender. We had a good closer and two aces in Sale and Q, etc. yes in answer to your last question I see it is probably dumb now to spend money for veteran free agents who won't help the rebuild. Now that the roster has been gutted and we've acquired a batch of studs the only thing to do is to wait for the reinforcements to arrive. However ... in theory do I want the Sox to have a 150 to 200 mill payroll? Of course. I'm not a management guy. This same management team gave us Robin Ventura as manager. They've acquired some horrific ballplayers to make me doubt them. Yes I want them to spend til it hurts. Fans witih 3 kids and wife spend til it hurts. GO SOX!

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 05:49 PM) About as good of a chance as they had the last 3 years of failing at the same goal. We'd have had a chance with Robin out of the way. However, with Cleveland on this kind of a roll they'd still have won the division and we wouldn't have made the wild card. But with Robin replaced by somebody competent, we may never have rebuilt in the first place. Robin was pretty darn bad.

QUOTE (almagest @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 12:43 AM) He's gotta get those walks down a bit but I really like what I've seen from him lately. If he's throwing strike 1 he's so hard to hit. A WHIP below 1 with 5 walks in 10 innings is crazy. I agree; he's looked good and don't forget the Coop influence. In the minors our guys get questionable tutoring. In the bigs, the pitchers have Cooper. Fulmer looked damn good today, folks.

LOL. All I know is I now find out he hit TWO home runs today and has 31 and 90 RBIs. I am AMAZED at the lack of praise on here about Jose. You aren't gonna be thrilled if Eloy has a 31 homer season with 90 ribbies on Sept. 10 some season?? And I watched Fulmer's highlights today. Lot of scorn on this board for Fulmer who had nasty stuff. My eyes can tell me that. Man I'm glad I'm not a stat geek. My eyes tell me Jose is special and I wouldn't count Fulmer out yet. He had some pop today and breaking stuff too. The world would be nicer if fans were all like el Rockin. Drives me crazy the lack of respect for Jose this season on this board.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 11, 2017 -> 01:33 AM) The Cubs had one of the greatest defensive team in history, every single one of their players probably passed the advanced stats test. If Jose isn't deemed a good ballplayer by any stats, I give up. The guy has 30 homers and 90 ribbies and we have a few weeks to go. I'm sorry ... that ain't chopped liver.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 07:24 PM) If Stone seems annoyed, that concerns me. Do you think Moncada could be one of those guys (remember that offseason article on him) who is enjoying the good life but isn't gonna put in the work? There have been plenty of guys throughout history who have gotten lazy and complacent upon netting the big bucks. I know NOTHING about him. if he's the hardest worker in the world, educate me. I'm just wondering ... when yu say Stoney seems annoyed. If he's annoyed, he's pretty well connected. Is he implying perhaps Moncada may be underachieving?? To avoid getting blasted on here, I AM a Moncada supporter. I think he'll be amazing. At least Tim hustled hard there. He's out IMO. 3-for-3 though. Nice nice nice.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 06:57 PM) Anderson looks great today. Yoan looks like total crap. Even Stone seems annoyed If Stone seems annoyed, that concerns me. Do you think Moncada could be one of those guys (remember that offseason article on him) who is enjoying the good life but isn't gonna put in the work? There have been plenty of guys throughout history who have gotten lazy and complacent upon netting the big bucks. I know NOTHING about him. if he's the hardest worker in the world, educate me. I'm just wondering ... when yu say Stoney seems annoyed. If he's annoyed, he's pretty well connected. Is he implying perhaps Moncada may be underachieving?? To avoid getting blasted on here, I AM a Moncada supporter. I think he'll be amazing.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 06:53 PM) I feel bad but damn I do not want to win today. But on the other hand, Yolmer hit a double off bumgarner. I have a way to improve your mood. Feel good for me. I want to win today. You could feel charitable on this Sunday and feel happy for Greg Can you believe Abreu has 30 homes and 89 RBI and not a peep in the game thread congratulating him or boasting about him, just a sarcastic comment in the previous post. I'll say it. Jose Abreu I salute you for one fricking amazing season. Spend, Jerry. Sign him up to make sure he's part of the good teams that are coming. Jose Abreu is becoming my Frank Thomas. I love him and all he stands for.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 8, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) Thats correct Greg. I've been on a plane where turbulence did that exact thing. However, kids man. They crazy. Damn I hope everybody had their seatbelts on. Did anybody get hurt badly?

QUOTE (Quin @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 02:32 PM) Greg, I love Jose. He's my favorite Sox player (tied with Q) since Konerko/Buerhle. He's just not a STAR that he was his rookie year. Part of that is the team he's on, part of it is his defense. He's also just an incredibly polite and soft spoken man. Jose is a great player, just not the MVP bat we had hoped. And that's ok, because he could still have a (shorter) Paulie-esque career and I'll take that. Good post. Glad to read the love for Jose.

QUOTE (Tony @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 04:41 AM) It's not about advanced stats, it's about understanding teams exist outside of Chicago and Kansas City. If you guys think Jose Abreu isn't a good ballplayer, I can't help you. I'd love to see you do a study of all the players on last year's Cub team. And tell me who you identify as a great ballplayer advanced stat wise. Or this year's Dodgers. Who can survive the advanced stat scruity nowadays? two or three players in each league? I'll take Avi's season and Abreu's season anyday. s*** even Davidson's season. Give him another 100 at bats or more and you've really got some production.

QUOTE (Tony @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 04:41 AM) It's not about advanced stats, it's about understanding teams exisit outside of Chicago and Kansas City. People are so jaded with advanced stats they can't even congratulate Jose for excellence in one of the most pathetic seasons imaginable. I applaud him unconditionally.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 05:12 AM) An unsustainable, lucky .300 with limited sample size We love to hate on our own. Jose Abreu, I salute you sir. You play for a horrific baseball team but you have continued to give 100 percent in meaningless games. Jose Abreu is a stud. Case closed.

So Brother Rice scored 55 vs some Aurora school. Does that mean the youngsters have found themselves and they'll win win win? Or is that Aurora school lousy?

How much of Cleveland's success is Francona? Scary how good he is. Cleveland suddenly is on quite a run. For sure the Indians will win the AL. Back to the Series. Will it be a rematch with the Cubs or somebody else though?

Congrats Abreu! He is so undervalued by some fans. The man is a star player, folks. I'll stand by that statement no matter what the advanced stats may say. I love Jose Abreu.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 10, 2017 -> 03:21 AM) Watching Avi run to and from right field was painful tonight. He almost slides his feet. He turns it on while playing but you can see he is struggling. He had two good plays in the OF but after he tried to beat out an infield single, he jogged a little but then walked to the dugout. After this they pulled him and put in Liriano. Anyone else notice this at recent games? Doesn't sound good. What do you think it could be?

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Sep 9, 2017 -> 09:12 PM) Meh, i actually don't think Moncada flopping would be disastrous. It would suck, but the rebuild is more than just one player. I thoroughly disagree. If Moncada flopped it would be horrific for the rebuild. He won't flop, though. He'll be great and I think Anderson will figure it out. He's hovering around .250 and still has a lot of homers, etc., during a season in which he's overall been blah at best. Anderson will thrive next season. He has talent folks. Moncada will be fine, but if for some reason he flopped that would be a huge failure of the organization. Huge.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 03:25 PM) His teammates sure loved the guy, which means something. Why would they bring him back? Makes absolutely no sense with all these solid prospects and some of the current guys needing at bats. Could somebody answer why you would accept Melky coming back when we have plenty of outfielders who could get MLB at bats in a season where we are tanking again? All you people who don't want to spend any money at all. Why the hell would you give Melky a contract that would keep him in Chicago 2-3 more years. I'd love to hear from anybody who thinks this is a good idea. Now if you say you want Melky so we can keep losing ... uh, we have plenty of hitters in the minors who could play the outifield next year to help us keep losing. I'm totally baffled and mad when I think about this Melky thing. New age Sox fans who worship the advanced stats just floor me. Sorry for my anger but Melky coming back makes NO sense to me at all. It makes no sense if you want to win; it makes no sense if you want to tank some more.

Shields actually pitches a dominant game. Weird. I don't like him. Abreu is so good it's scary. He's a special White Sox hitter. Always glad to see Avi hit a dinger. Anderson excels today. Back near .250. Man our record sucks. Scary that we are four wins from 60. What a lousy ballclub. Great win today though.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 8, 2017 -> 04:06 AM) Pelfrey - 86 ERA+ Shields - 76 ERA+ Holland - 70 ERA+ 1998 White Sox James Baldwin - 86 ERA+ Scott Eyre - 85 ERA+ (17 starts out of 33 appearances) Jamie Navarro - 72 ERA+ Jason Bere - 71 ERA+ I think 1998 was a hair better, but that's about as close as I think you'll find. Thanks for looking that up. Those were very bad starters as well. It's amazing how difficult it is to play MLB. Remember how Bere was supposed to be great? Navarro stunk for sure. Eyre was annoyingly bad and Baldwin was rotten at the end.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 8, 2017 -> 04:47 AM) Getting MRI tomorrow. I don't like that we haven't heard the words "precautionary" and "similar to last time" Sad if he is hurt badly. He's a very promising pitcher. PTATC?? What up with the MRI? What could show up?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 06:18 PM) No punishment for the United passenger dragging incident. http://wgntv.com/2017/09/07/federal-offici...gging-incident/ Wink wink. Nothing to see here.

I was on a Southwest flight and a mom and dad had a 1.5-2 year old I'd say. I cringed as the child laid on the floor before take off. Not sure if the child was still down there. All I could think of was the fact you wear a seatbelt because there have been cases where planes hit the pocket and people without seat belts on crash into the top of the plane and bust their heads open. I'm thinking mom and dad had their legs over the child so the baby wouldn't go flying into the air if there was turbulence but it sorta made me nervous for the child. Just goes to show you how some planes just let it go. This little kid was old enough to sit upright and have a seat belt I'm thinking. Nothing happened but the flight attendants didn't even discuss procedure with the parents. They just let them do what they wanted with the child. I love Southwest. Just thought this was a curious story.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Sep 7, 2017 -> 09:56 PM) Back to the topic of this thread; In a previous post, I whimsically dreamed of what a terrific player he'd be, if he could hit even .250, with an OBP of .330, or better and hit 20 - 25 homers. After watching all of the Youtube videos of some of his catches, from his college days to the present, I'm willing to lower my expectations for his offense. Even if he hit .230 with an OBP of .300 and 15 homers, it would be worth it to keep him in CF. Add in a few doubles and stolen bases and he would be productive enough to bat 9TH, while playing Gold Glove defense. I've always embraced the old baseball adage, which calls for strength up the middle. Give me great defense behind the plate, at the keystone combo and centerfield, with great pitching. Let the offense come from the corners. This team is going to have productive offense from 2ND, with Moncada and maybe from SS, if Anderson can get back on track. The Sox might even have productive offense from their receivers, if Collins pans out. Why not give Engel a chance to round out his game a little, at least until Robert is ready? Is Engel potentially as good a hitter as Ken Berry?