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QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 23, 2012 -> 03:28 AM) Well, he's shown no ability to coach actual talent. He's going to have to try and take advantage of the Kansas JUCO system, but we'll see how long it takes him to figure that out. Yeah. I figure he'd get tired of this job after a couple years but his son is just a freshman and Weis set it up that the kid can actually be a pseudo assistant coach if u can believe that. He's not going anywhere until the kid graduates IMO.

QUOTE (Baron @ Sep 23, 2012 -> 03:27 AM) Nothing would be better actually Then I wouldn't be contributing my share to the message board. Did anybody hear the negative caller that set off Rongey last night? I just heard the aftermath of it but not the call.

I don't like Nate's delivery. It reminds me of Foulke. Didn't Foulke's career end prematurely with elbow woes?

QUOTE (Baron @ Sep 23, 2012 -> 03:24 AM) Thats literally all you have to say most of the time. What else can I say? It's either shut up and type nothing or type something like that. The Sox are in the tank right now.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 23, 2012 -> 03:19 AM) Not a ND fan, but yes. Because his massive ego makes him a better coordinator than head coach? Or because no coach can win at moribund Kansas?

We stink. My god.

This isn't exactly working out well.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2012 -> 03:13 AM) That's not how the media will report it though (which is what I thought greg was asking about) That's what I asked, yep.

That K-State/Oklahoma game was a good one. I watched most of it. KSU hung on. Nice win. Kansas and Charlie Weis lost to Northern Illinois today. Do you ND fans think Weis will fail at Kansas?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2012 -> 04:12 AM) 100% the Tigers started playing to their potential will be the story. That's good. I'd hate it to be the nation mocking us. I guess if the lead was 6 games it woulda been a different story, more of a choke job.

Will this be big news if we blow the division after getting the lead up to 3 games or is it ho hum, the Tigers are great and finally playing to their potential?

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 06:38 PM) The Sox had a 3.0 game lead four days ago. It's now half that. After the team's atrocious play this week one can only assume they will continue their collapse in Anaheim. This is how it happens and it happens fast. The Tigers now have Scherzer back and are playing the pathetic Minnesota Peavys all weekend in Detroit. At the most important time of the season the Sox are playing their worst baseball and likely will pay for it. Soon. Who cares? It is what it is. Like Rongey said, it's just baseball and the Sox were in contention all year. Just think when we have a season like the Cubs. They've been irrelevant since well before the all star break. The Sox like Fathom said are very very flawed. Because of all the injuries and lack of fan support at home, not giving us much of a homefield advantage, it's been a good season no matter what. They might win, might not. At least we're done with KC and Detroit. QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 07:05 PM) Give me a one game lead come Monday, and I'm happy. 2 games, and that's a minor miracle. Well put. If Detroit can't wrap this thing up playing KC and Minnie as many times as they do, Leyland deserves to get canned. Detroit is a heavy heavy favorite right now.

If this is true, it makes me sick. Holmes is being treated well in prison http://kdvr.com/2012/09/20/exclusive-forme...h-james-holmes/

QUOTE (danman31 @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 05:07 AM) Mt. Carmel and Loyola are the class of the league. I'm looking forward to that one next Friday. Hopefully I don't get shot at Gately. Danman are u a journalist? Do you cover these games? I watched some of the Rice-MC game. Carmel looked like it could score on any play it wanted. I guess some Rice fans complained about how the team ran the ball too much under the former coach. I still think the right formula for high school is run a ton like Mt. Carmel and throw maybe 10 times a game? This Rice formula of throwing 45 times a game kind of scares me. I don't think high school kids can pull that off over the course of a season without having some mega-turnover games. What u think?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 21, 2012 -> 10:47 PM) Hey Greg. According to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, the Marlins are considering firing manager Ozzie Guillen after an extremely disappointing first season in Miami. I thought I read the president was gonna get the ax. Not the son in law but some other guy that Ozzie feuded with. From what I read, Oz was safe and some other guy was the scapegoat for now.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 06:39 AM) On paper you thought that team was awesome. That's cause I listened to people on this board. I didn't know enough about the Marlins, but I listened to everybody on here. I don't know how anybody could go work for Loria. Ozzie showed he really lacks in common sense in going to work for that guy. Perhaps Oz is dumb as a fox, though. Four year contract? Pretty big bucks? Not bad money if you get axed after one year.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 02:01 AM) They're not going to decline a one year option, eat $4 million, then turn around and give him another $30 million. They might as well just exercise the option if they're planning to do that. With how he's pitched the last two months, good but not great like in the first half, and with TONS of wear and tear on him thanks to numerous extended starts by Ventura/Cooper, you simply can't take that risk. He definitely seems to be getting worse with every start. Overused arm? U think there's any way the Cubs sign him? Doesn't Theo need a complete overhaul and Cubs have money?

I liked Rongey's postgame show tonight. He said it's insane to be mad at the White Sox situation. He said if baseball makes you so mad, why watch it? He said to relax and enjoy the fact the Sox have been in it all year when everybody expected them to suck. So I agree, Mr. Rongey. What will be will be. Bad baseball is better than no baseball. If the Sox are gonna make it, good for them. If not, oh well. f*** it. Go Sox!!

Royals' Sal Perez is out with a bad hand and Gordon is out as well. They hope to return for the Detroit series. I'm thinking the Royals' hatred of the Sox and domination of the Sox will continue with them laying down vs. Detroit and losing 3 or 4. They don't like us. Let's see if they really come back for the Detroit series.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 05:13 AM) So what was Hawk saying during the game that was so negative about the Sox? Oh, please move Beckham to the 2nd spot, as Youk is too easy of an out right now. He was pointing out the Sox are very tight at the plate with runners in scoring position. He said that's really bad because they should be loose and pitchers should be tight in those situations. He said the Sox have played bad baseball even during the 5 game win streak. But he did say they were not out of it yet. I think Hawk like everybody else realizes these losses to KC have not been indicative of a team trying to wrap up a division. We've had so many chances to put Detroit away. He and Stoney both talked about how it's home run or nothing with the Sox offense. Stoney said it's been like that a long while. You had to listen to it but it was like a death knoll tonight from Hawk.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 05:23 AM) It's because pep talks don't do s***. This is a game in which the manager has to look and see whether bad play is happening because of something controllable or mere chance. When the best players only succeed 30% of the time (at the plate), a long streak of failures is well within the realm of possibility on a "normal" day. A slight downturn in production (like from 4 runs a game to 3 runs a game, which usually constitutes the difference between a winning run and a losing run) is bound to happen fairly often just by chance. You can't treat it like a football coach would because in football most players execute at an extremely high rate by nature of the game. You can't out-motivate chance. Having heads up asses and being in a statistically likely bad stretch look remarkably similar. Managers have to discern which is occurring and strong reactions usually wind up with a manager getting bad about things that are bound to happen, statistically. Robin can focus on the mistakes like the fielding, baserunning ones and just hope the offensive issues are going to be self-correcting. Obviously Manto is always going to be working hard to keep players going, so you can't say that he needs to suddenly change his style. Nice post. I'm not saying he should give a pep talk, I just find it funny that obviously the team is dead and is in need of some words of wisdom from somebody. Or Youk should turn a table over. You have to admit the team is playing dead. Awful hitting. Awful baserunning in KC. Not like a real contender that is for sure.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 05:31 AM) Yup It does sound like Hawk knows this is not a playoff-caliber team. It's all up to Detroit. If they suck the last week, we might back in. If Detroit takes care of business and dusts off Minnie and KC we have zero chance.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 05:22 AM) lol @ the tone of this thread. No wonder some of you guys are home on a Friday night. I'm at work, pal. Kidding, but I am at work. I can multi-task so I can monitor the game and post on here while also working.

It's funny how baseball is so much different from every other team sport. It's pretty apparent the Sox are dead, in a funk, whatever, entering the homestretch. But in no way can Robin address this with a pep talk or team meeting or speech before or after games (unlike football, basketball where coaches talk all the time). It would be seen as a sign of panic or of weakness. So he like all managers has to act the same as he does every other day during the season and just hope the bad Sox turn into the good Sox again. The marathon nature of baseball season dictates Robin saying nothing, just making out the lineup cards day after day.

Who's gonna say it first? Will Dweezy pitch tonight? I say yes.