Baseball Gal

If taking Madrigal and Vaughn was because Jerry said so and not because they were the best players on their board, then this team is more fucked than I thought. There truly might be no hope until new ownership.

Accurate

Craig Kimbrel is bad at baseball Nick Madrigal is bad at baseball /thread

If Cease is closer to the 2021 version than the 2022 one this team has zero redeeming qualities.

le sigh

They have crossed into fun bad territory. This is comedy. How are they going blow the game today?

Idk how Kopech's secondary stuff went from great out of the bullpen to non-existent as a starter.

I don't see any way out other than rebuilding again because Robert/Moncada only became solid players and not stars, Giolito/Lynn/Anderson peaked early and aren't the same and Cease peaked when Giolito/Lynn/Anderson already fell off. Also Eloy was injured and has otherwise disappointed because he can't hit the ball in the air. Vaughn either is still figuring it out or it might be too late for him. Kopech's secondary stuff might not be good enough to start. Robert is a solid piece and Vaughn might be, but they really don't have anyone long-term besides them and we all know Cease is getting paid by someone other than the Sox. There's really no reason to keep Vaughn and Robert around to build around. Nobody is arguing that Hahn et al should get to do it, but they’re losing way too many players to FA to realistically compete anymore. This year was pretty much their last chance and they look to be falling flat on their faces.

No arguments.

Tearing it down in 2016 was the correct course of action then as it is today.

This person nailed it, it belongs in here too.

This person nailed it.

You don't guarantee anything in the draft anymore. 6 team lottery.

Eloy might be the guy that has an inexplicably bad season like Yoan last year.

I want to know why pitchers at every level of the organization are losing velocity. Pallette was mid-90s last time he pitched in college. (yes I know TJS but pitchers don't usually lose velo after that) If Crochet comes back throwing 96 mph or something, then I will be at a loss on this one.

Unpopular opinion: Burger should be the everyday 1B. They need his power.

For what? A salary dump? There are so many guys on this team that are just salary dumps at this point. They're going to have to trade Cease and Robert if they want anything back and Cease's velocity drop this year is concerning.

They were all very good prospects but they're below average major leaguers.

Who wants a no power 1B?

SSS