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Berroa sounds a lot like Santos, stuff wise.

Best trade of Getz’s career. He peddled one year of success (and possibly an injured arm) for a nice return. We might actually have a lefty RF power bat. His strikeout rate isn’t very pretty though.

They just signed Dinelson Lamet to a minor league contract. I’m sure they will also bring back Kershaw.

If you look at the back of their baseball cards, it’s difficult to see any specific reason they were signed. ?

The team needs veteran leaders that are also good baseball players, not a bunch of veteran leaders that are too old, can’t hit, and mostly flat out suck like the ones Getz acquired.

.729 OPS last year. Assuming he is going to be a major leaguer is a big assumption.

I didn’t include Fedde because he is on a two year deal and may actually return a prospect if he has a good first half or entire 2024. The rest of the acquisitions this offseason are one year deals for trash that won’t return anything in a trade. So yeah, more of the same offseason transactions, just like Kenny and Hahn. Numerous crappy signings that add up to a decent amount of money, rather than signing one or two good players that are actually difference makers with positive WAR.

If Pillar gets $3 million, Duvall is likely out of the Sox price range (probably closer to $8 million).

Getz most recently said he was still looking to add a right fielder. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is about it, outside of cheap minor league pickups and non roster invitees (mostly relievers).

This lineup would’ve been pretty sweet about five years ago.

Exactly. It will take years for the Sox to field a good team. Jerry was flat out lying about contending immediately. Smart fans like yourself know better.

Ironically, didn’t Madrigal actually improve? He was pretty mediocre at 2B for the Sox and somehow he played well defensively at 3B for the Cubs last year, even with his awkward mechanics and weak armed throws to 1B.

I know Gallo sucks but how does Pillar get $3 million guaranteed if he makes the roster and Gallo only gets $5 million? Pretty sure I’d rather have him than Pillar for $2 million more. Sure seems like Getz overpaid here.

Who? It’s pretty obvious the Sox aren’t looking to spend any more than $3 to $5 million on any one player. I have no doubt Pillar is their main plan for RF on opening day. You may as well guarantee him the $3 million.

Yes, it’s the same pipe dream as it is every year. I could actually see AV and Benintendi improving but we all know Moncada and Eloy will be injured at some point in the season, if not the majority of it.

This makes me wonder. If the Sox acquired MLB ready talent in a Cease trade, like a RF and/or 2B, would they even be playing in the majors this year or would the Sox have them in Charlotte? It sure seems like Getz wants to play these crappy no bat / all glove veterans. He must dream about a lineup of 9 David Eckstein clones just like Jerry.

I wouldn’t put money on it if I were you.

Kevin Pillar has agreed to a minor league deal with the White Sox that will pay him $3 million if he makes the team, according to MLBTR’s Steve Adams. Pillar is probably being assured of a roster spot here, but the White Sox will be able to wait until mid or late March to decide who gets bumped for him. Ideally, the White Sox would have signed someone better to serve as a caretaker in right, but at least Pillar will be content with a platoon role if Oscar Colás develops. If Colás fails to progress, Pillar would be a fourth major offensive liability to go along with Paul DeJong, Nicky Lopez and Martín Maldonado in the bottom half of the team’s lineup.

He will continue to hit bombs against the Sox.

Oh, I know Hahn was even worse with that offseason in which he essentially burned $40 million, but Getz hasn’t been much better. Here’s some of his one year signings that I don’t see how they even move the dial at all for the Sox. That’s $20.5 million total on a bunch of trash for the same team that was afraid to pay Bryce Harper $25 million a year. Predictions on the combined WAR from these guys? John Brebbia $5.5 million Nicky Lopez $4.3 million Martin Maldonado $4.25 million Kevin Pillar $3 million Paul DeJong $1.75 million Chris Flexen $1.75 million

Great points about anti-tanking. So at this point, the way I see it is that at bats are truly valuable. See what some younger guys can do. Also, if they avoided signing all of these vets this offseason, why couldn’t that money be spent later when they are more competitive? We were always told “the money would be spent” when Hahn missed out on Machado/Harper. Why not treat the money the same way, see if any of your aging prospects can perform, and spend the money when you have a team that is closer to being competitive? No other team shows much interest in Pillar as a fourth outfielder and we are talking about starting him in RF in a platoon with Brett Phillips. How low can you go?

Getz’s entire offseason has been signing veterans that are either old as hell and/or (mostly “and”) were terrible last year, and they weren’t even all that cheap! He signed a bunch of guys as starters that would be bench players at best on any other team, and they probably didn’t deserve much more than a minor league contract. I’ll take my chances with guys like Colas, Perez, and Sosa potentially sucking over Pillar/Phillips, Maldonado/Stassi, and DeJong/Lopez sucking for sure. We already know these veterans suck and/or their days are numbers as major leaguers. Why bother playeing them?

The irony is that this would have been a pretty good signing back when both Leury and Sheets were playing the outfield for our contending White Sox. ?

Okay, then trade them all for low A lottery tickets. At least that would be a strategy that makes some sort of sense. Don’t just keep them around as organizational filler to start games at AAA. Organizational filler can be found everywhere. I can’t wait to watch these veterans win 10 more games then some youth to finish the season with 70 wins.

Colas is 25. Sosa is 24. There’s a difference between these guys and rushing a Montgomery or Ramos who are much younger. We already know AAA at bats are no comparison for MLB at bats. Let these guys sink or swim in the majors. Every at bat that a Maldonado, DeJong, Pillar, Phillips, etc. gets is a wasted at bat in a non-competitive season. This team is going nowhere no matter who starts. You also aren’t getting anything of value at the deadline, even if one of these aged bums has a miraculously good start. There literally is zero upside to playing these veterans.