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I do think Getz is doing the right thing by acquiring guys like Vargas, Mead, Pereira, [Canario 🤣], etc., but make a decision and either go all in on tanking or don’t. Jerry was and is never going to approve enough spending to make this team a contender until he sells it. So as the GM, don’t make short-sighted moves like Mena for Fletcher, or Fajardo for Booser. He should never be in the situation to trade another young prospect for an older reliever. It makes no sense for where this team is and where it will still be in 3-4 years. If we are even talking about trading Vargas, that’s all the proof I need for this post…

So if he breaks out after this season, do you keep him or sell him high? The timeline of Ishbia taking over tells me to sell him high. But for right now, I doubt trading him gets you much so it probably isn’t worth it.

I think technically he could still be 29 if Ishbia takes over in 2029, but I could be wrong. 😀

True, but Vargas could also be 30+ by the time Ishbia takes over ownership of the team and the Sox finally spend some money to try to win. But I agree with you. I don’t think right now is the time to trade him but it definitely could be after next season if he improves on his 2025 season.

Jerry must’ve imported tons of cheap second-rate Christmas lights from China at pennies on the dollar. Sounds like similar spending as our White Sox offseason. ”You can’t spend a dollar if you only have fifty cents.” https://lightofchristmas.com/locations/chicago/

I still hope he breaks out. It’s amazing how a guy can crush it in the minors like he did and then look completely clueless in the majors. But like Fathom says all the time, it just seams like he has zero power.

He really does hate him, but he did bash the trade right from the start. I just like calling him Meadiocre because it’s such a perfect nickname.

Replacing mediocre with Meadiocre. Always a good way to improve your team. But honestly, at this rate, neither player may end up being a part of a winning Sox team so it may not even matter.

Yeah, let’s have Meadiocre replace Vargas who is no great shakes himself but is still better than Meadiocre.

You mean the same two guys that Getz acquired first? 😉

I’d love for that to happen and he gets dealt for a good return at the deadline. But does Getz have the balls to hold onto him that long and hope he doesn’t get injured. And is that even a wise play to make?

Looks like you misread his post. He was talking about a scenario in which a team took Adams in the Rule 5.

Could just be the case. It’s interesting though with guys like Canario and Pereira — they could just be who they appear to be, but it has to be tough to get into a groove when you only get sporadic at bats across a season in a game here or there every other day or play in only two to three games a week.

Hahn had a similar strategy though, didn’t he? Acquire aging former top prospects that hadn’t panned out on the cheap. I just checked Jordan Walker’s numbers and it looks like he struggled again. I thought he had started out hot last year with a swing change but I must be wrong. I wonder if the Sox would still be interested in him at this point. He’s still only 23.

Agreed. The Sox won’t spend money like the Padres and only potentially once Ishbia takes over in 2029 at the earliest. Meanwhile, Getz and his new FO have not shown that they are as successful at identifying talent like the Rays.

Yeah, sounds like he wants to start a family too and that’s tough traveling all over the country. I do agree with you though. Take the money while you can and then start the business.

I’m all for it. Frees up some of the positional redundancy and avoids what I feel would probably be a waste of money on a guy like O’Hearn. Is it crazy to think that Sosa could put up a 2+ bWAR like O’Hearn if he’s at 1B instead of 2B and his defense isn’t holding him back as much?

Yeah, not sure the Sox have any other options there unless Zavala improves a lot more and quickly. Hell, claim/sign Canario, platoon him in RF with Tauchman, trade Robert before he gets injured, and start Pereira in CF. Or just force Benintendi into a DH role. If we are going to be bad, we may as well be younger and bad. 🤣 Obviously Robert is better than both guys but I damn sure don’t want to see him go down with an injury that he won’t return from until after the trade deadline.

The sad thing is that Getz just traded for an outfielder who is probably not any better and gave up a possible #5 starter and his last piece from the Cease trade. At least Canario would have been free last year via a waiver claim or cash considerations. Had he sucked with the Sox instead of the Mets and Pirates, it wouldn’t have been much is a loss. You had mentioned Canario’s poor strikeout rate as one of the marks against him so I am curious what you think of Pereira’s. Meanwhile, Canario has still out-bWAR’ed Pereira in their short careers thus far. Yet you said you liked the Pereira acquisition.

I think Sosa would be the ideal option to move to 1B in a perfect world. But even if his power grows to 30 HR, will he ever walk enough as well to be a good enough hitter to stick at 1B?

Yes, I believe 2029 is the first year it is possible for Ishbia to take over ownership.

At least he went to the Cubs so the White Sox weren’t the only team “besmirched” by his parking lot antics.

WestEddy already mentioned that Pereira is out of options. Do you think he isn’t making the team? There’s no way Getz is giving up on him in Spring Training. I seriously think he will the right-handed half of a RF platoon with Tauchman. Also, the Sox really don’t have that many offensive positions to fill since they are stuck with Benintendi and probably won’t be able to trade Robert until he shows he can stay healthy and hit. Getz will acquire a 1B, but I would be surprised if it ends up being someone even at the level of Ryan O’Hearn. I wouldn’t be surprised if even he is out of the Sox price range.

Which part is stupid? Or do you think Getz will sign some A and B tier free agents this offseason? Seems like he already indicated he won’t be spending much.