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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:47 PM) How am I the only one who is disappointed that the pinwheels will be gone? Those are f***ing iconic. b/c we as fans can't win.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:04 PM) When the best news of the month is video boards so that they can play more ads and generate more revenue? owejifaowejfoawiejfoawjfoiwejfoiwjfoiwejwoefi is how I feel. We can't generate revenue through winning and butts in seats though, so you have to do it someway. you hit it on the head... $$$

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:42 PM) While rookie ball numbers look good, I don't know how variable and predictive they are. Only like 150 ABs, what are playing conditions, pitchers like? how do other orgs compare? I'm not complaining about rookie ball numbers, I just don't know how excited I can get about such things. there is no exact science on any of this. this is for reading pleasure.... for those who wants a snapshot of how the future may pan out. remember some of these prospect may never pan out. but as a fan, i like the info provided. it is as simple as that. maybe i am being a simpleton in my thoughts.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:31 PM) If you're the Dodgers why not just sign one or two of the many SP on the market this offseason instead of trading away tons of assets? excellent point. dang i wish i saved the link, but their FO mention that they wanted to get away from signing big contract, name players via free agents and want to start to get some promising young players.... they wanted to stop spending money uselessly b/c it hasn't worked as hope. however you pkg 2 sp's someone like a Q and for this discussion and example, Rodon, and avoid their main prospects like seager and urias and add some of their other players, it will get done. the dodger will have a cost control sp for quite some time, at the same time allow them to get their near ready prospect into the lineup and will allow them to let some of those high contract to come off the books. btw.... like they have to be $$$ conscience. pls remember i am using this as an example only. no offense, but on this topic, i am done.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:24 PM) I'm not disappointed in the work put into the report. I'm disappointed in the players! It was a good report! I liked it! good and while you may have a good point, this is a rpt on the state of the future. not every org has it all planned out. i am a fan who loves to follow the prospects, b/c i am that kind of an obsessive kind of a fan. i use this as a platform for the org to rebuild. compare this to the idea of what the org look like in .... lets say 2012 or 2013.... this part of the org is growing... baby steps.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:25 PM) Mark SpectorVerified account ‏@SportsnetSpec CHI is trying to move Bryan Bickell, with Seabrook deal kicking in next year, + Shaw, Kruger going RFA. Talked w/EDM 4 Nikitin, but no deal nice update. the hawks will need to sweeten that deal to make the bickell move. they screwed the pooch on that rumored trade with arz. you would imagine it will go with bickell + 1rnd pick + ???? who will be the ???

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:25 PM) Sure, but you can keep the future in mind while taking care of today. They aren't the Detroit Tigers with Illitch. And it's not like Seabrook gave them a discount for the present day anyway, it's still a top 10 cap hit out of all defensemen. excellent, i never thought of this.... as you put it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:01 PM) They absolutely have an expiration date, which is why you are trying to win while Kane/Toews/Keith is all in their prime, and not worring about Brent Seabrook at age 37/38/39 in the next decade. This contract allows the team somewhere in the neighborhood of another $2 million a year in cap space while this core is in its prime. That is what this deal is all about. Using real life numbers, saving $2 million on Seabrook is the same salary as Andrew Shaw. Are you willing to give up Andrew Shaw next year to sign Brent Seabrook to a shorter deal? Teuvo is a cap hit of just under $1.5 million going forward. Would it be OK to lose him to keep Brent Seabrook at a shorter contract? That is what I am talking about. first you are trying justify the extra 3 yrs of the contract. the money on the table, this is the money of the contract is fair. iwould doubt seabs would fine anything close to that contract as a fa. so this means after this season, the 2016, season, he walks. ok, there will fa's out there. the contract also guarantees support for those yrs he will start to decline. but for 5 yrs. why screw the future when the window of opportunity is now and for the next 4-5 yrs. they will need some room to start rebuilding or getting newer players in the lineup.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 04:44 PM) I can't follow what you are talking about. I was saying the system is pretty devoid of hitting prospects, but we all knew that. Would have been nice for a couple guys to break out. but this excellent and promising report is about the future prospect and their development. the players to look for in coming yrs, to follow and yes to talk about...

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 05:32 PM) Sale and Quintana are both signed long term as well. The problem being that by the time you repair the damage from those deals, Abreu and Eaton will be about done here, if everything goes right. i agree with both yours and flavum post. this team has an expiration date. so if the FO will wait for their mistakes to come off the books and hopes that other prospects will be ready to step in, it will be too late. that is why i keep emphasizing that the owners needs to swallow the pill. go over their budget in a big push, the salary will fix itself as contract starts to come off the books and the prospects will start to step in.

whether it is fans or org, it will always be talked up. but to ss2k5 and kyyle23, many thanks for pointing out my mistake. i appreciate that. no offense intended

QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 05:08 PM) Although these numbers are meaningless, I looked at the 2015 stats for the Top 10 picks in this year's draft, and Benintendi of Boston looks to be the leader. Average of .313, OPS over 1, 11 Homers. Low A. Fulmer next best. Can't complain. you did a lot of work for this. but i look at the position.... the sox got a pitcher while benintendi is an outfielder. for me can't be compared.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:55 PM) But the cap hit is even through the whole contract the salary cap and all that. i don't know. all i am talking about is the length of the contract.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:45 PM) So you would be giving up a player from the current roster in all likelihood, in the years when the team has the best chance to win to save for 2021 to 2024. who is to know what the roster will look like. remember even dynasty has a end date. no matter how much we, the fans hates that idea. being burden with another unmovable contract is all i am talking about. this team will need to find players who can step in in later yrs. nice point tho.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 06:15 PM) The cap hit of a 4 or 5 year contract would have been millions more per year. but isn't his contract front loaded??

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 01:55 PM) That's one of my biggest pet peeves. Every offseason I hear about player A or player B and how many more home runs they will hit if they play 81 games in the Cell. And it never happens. yeah i know what you mean, i just check that up to the org pr machine.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 02:34 PM) should be self evident. how many guys are you excited about from high-A on up? if this is about knowing and following prospects, then i understand and i don't agree. i know many will not pan out as hope, but i really do like to follow the prospects and yes from the rookie league on. i know that is hard to believe but i have always been a minor league, farm team kind of person ..... but i do know there is a lot of hit or misses. so your self evident comment is really not that self evident .

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) 7 years since the last playoff appearance. 10 years since the last World Championship. Oh, the suffering. Fans should never be exposed to this. ahhh the subtle snark.... i love it.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 03:59 PM) That's pretty much a given. You could go back all the way to 1901 and I would still think that 2013 was one of the worst years for the White Sox franchise ever. They were absolutely terrible from start to finish. I guess Rodon is a great reward for having to endure that trainwreck of a year though. i had to relive that yr of the black sox scandal and esp that playoff series, i would pick that yr.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 03:34 PM) Seabrook's contract is cheap, by comparison, at the end of the deal. It'll be great for cap floor teams because it'll still count as $6.875 M, but the Blackhawks, or any team that gets him, will be getting a stodgy veteran for $4.5 mil (including signing bonus). And if Seabrook can stay relatively healthy, I think he'll be a good player well into his 30's. He earned this contract. you do make a nice point, i think that, at least for me, i will not answer for anyone else, the problem is not the money he is getting. but the length of the contract for 8 yrs. i also think that 4 even 5 yrs is a great length. so i also feels he deserves the monetary raise, but 8 yrs........

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 01:58 PM) Surprises, no. Disappointing, yes. why???

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 01:01 PM) A look at the top 10 in key offensive categories among all White Sox prospects in 2015. Some expected, some surprises, and a strong overall showing from the rookie leagues highlight this one. Another theme - power was down compared to last year, but speed numbers were up. We look at AVG, OBP, SLG, XBH totals, contact rates and stolen bases. We will cover starting pitchers, then relievers, in later articles. Any surprises here for people? excellent info. the 2 players i am totally surprise about and will need to follow them are the first 2 in the avg chart. niceeeeee. great job as usual.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 28, 2015 -> 07:36 PM) http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/152...uctional-league nice find. i keep getting amazed at First baseman Corey Zangari, results and performance. i really hope he continues on his development ladder.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 01:46 PM) Earlier in the season, I advocated moving Melky from the 2 hole, to the middle of the order, at least against RHP. That thought was prompted by LaRoche's ineptitude. It seemed to me that he could replace the "black hole," which La Roche's bat represented, at clean up. I was pleasantly surprised when Robin actually did move Melky to the middle of the lineup. Cabrera provided some badly needed run production, from the left side, and had a pretty good run, in that slot. Batting left handed, he put up respectable numbers: .289 .335 .421 (Season Totals) He hit even better, from both sides while hitting 3RD: .313 .342 .497 I don't understand the desire to dump him. He has proven that he can be a run producer, and this team certainly needs more of that. ref the defense of the outfield if TT plays. all things being equal, who is the worst outfielder when you compare Avi to Melky??? ref the bold.... thank you. i have been beat that in. to no avail.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2015 -> 02:26 PM) Have the Cubs won a playoff game since Bartman? How many teams in professional sports have World Championships since 2005? You adjust the goalposts enough, you can make a lot of teams look bad. How many professional teams have finished last more often than Boston the past 4 seasons? Just forget the one time they didn't....title. I am pretty sure the whiners who need playoff appearances, will whine about not winning if that occurs. Of course it doesn't matter now, but they always will have a complaint in their back pocket. After the Sox won, there was post after post that said just making the playoffs isn't good enough anymore. Could you imagine some of these whiners every time the Braves were bounced during their historic playoff run? Do you really think they wouldn't be calling for heads to be chopped? i don't know if i am one of those whiners you mention. but this is a good post.