September 30, 201510 yr If you didn't see it, you really should. I am trying to remember a better defensive play this year, and I cannot. The gif doesn't do it justice as he covered some major ground just to get into position for the full extension dive. https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/649227806489055232 http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/video/v50913...Id=clubMEGAMENU
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 10:35 AM) God I hope he hits next year. I really want this dude to be star. That'd be great, but I'd settle for him being an average MLB OF offensively to go along with his much better than average defensive abilities.
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) That'd be great, but I'd settle for him being an average MLB OF offensively to go along with his much better than average defensive abilities. How about just a positive WAR player
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 09:45 AM) How about just a positive WAR player A 0.0 WAR player would be the second best OF on the team this year.
September 30, 201510 yr As long as he outhits Brian Anderson, might as well give him Avi's job. Heck, Avi can't even outhit Viciedo.
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 03:35 PM) God I hope he hits next year. I really want this dude to be star. my god, i just wish he can hit consistently ..... this was a true diving catch. not some of those fake diving catches one would see highlighted on esp. fantastic catch.
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 03:32 PM) If you didn't see it, you really should. I am trying to remember a better defensive play this year, and I cannot. The gif doesn't do it justice as he covered some major ground just to get into position for the full extension dive. https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/649227806489055232 http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/video/v50913...Id=clubMEGAMENU many thanks for that...... it was indeed a great catch.
September 30, 201510 yr Correct me if I'm wrong (don't know where to really look for this) but in the years Heyward struggled with the bat, wasn't he always positive WAR-wise due to his great defense? (I also know that WAR isn't the end all be all)
September 30, 201510 yr My big question going forward is do the Sox keep Trayce in RF or move him to CF and have Eaton move to RF?
September 30, 201510 yr Awesome catch. Trayce was such a bright spot this year. Hope he's not a bright spot like Josh Fields 22 hrs were a bright spot in 07.
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 10:22 AM) Correct me if I'm wrong (don't know where to really look for this) but in the years Heyward struggled with the bat, wasn't he always positive WAR-wise due to his great defense? (I also know that WAR isn't the end all be all) Heyward had just one year where he was a below Major League average hitter with a 96 wRC+ in 2011. His fWAR that year was just 1.9 (basically league average). I think that may be about where Trayce Thompson could be at. Every other year Heyward's wRC+ has been at least 110. I don't think Trayce Thompson has a reasonable shot at that at all. I think Trayce's peak is a average to slightly above average Major Leaguer. Remember he put up low .700 OPSs in AAA.
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (Dunt @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 10:31 AM) My big question going forward is do the Sox keep Trayce in RF or move him to CF and have Eaton move to RF? I was gonna say Melky in RF and Eaton in LF. Was surprised Melky has only played 78 games in RF. Feel like he has the arm for it. Eaton surprisingly does too. My only problem with moving Eaton is that you better be sure Trayce can stick. I feel like once you move from CF to a corner on a permanent basis, few end up moving back successfully.
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 10:35 AM) Heyward had just one year where he was a below Major League average hitter with a 96 wRC+ in 2011. His fWAR that year was just 1.9 (basically league average). I think that may be about where Trayce Thompson could be at. Every other year Heyward's wRC+ has been at least 110. I don't think Trayce Thompson has a reasonable shot at that at all. I think Trayce's peak is a average to slightly above average Major Leaguer. Remember he put up low .700 OPSs in AAA. Thompson's wRC+ by year: 2010: 106 2011: 114 2012: 120 (A+), 153 (AA), 46 (AAA, only 20 PA though) 2013: 107 2014: 108 2015: 114 With the exception of his 100 PA in rookie ball and his 20 PA in AAA in 2012, he's been an above-average hitter every year.
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 07:32 AM) If you didn't see it, you really should. I am trying to remember a better defensive play this year, and I cannot. The gif doesn't do it justice as he covered some major ground just to get into position for the full extension dive. https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/649227806489055232 http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/video/v50913...Id=clubMEGAMENU Sox haven't had someone capable of his electric defensive plays in the outfield since...well I don't know...I suppose Brian Anderson. Rowand obviously was capable of the spectacular catch but had nowhere near the defensive tools of Trayce. That catch was incredible. Sox have been such an unathletic team over the years and as the league has shifted to being pitching-centric, athleticism has become so much more critical (defense and baserunning).
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 04:49 PM) Sox haven't had someone capable of his electric defensive plays in the outfield since...well I don't know...I suppose Brian Anderson. Rowand obviously was capable of the spectacular catch but had nowhere near the defensive tools of Trayce. That catch was incredible. Sox have been such an unathletic team over the years and as the league has shifted to being pitching-centric, athleticism has become so much more critical (defense and baserunning). this is a question, not an argument. did you really think rowand was all that in the defensive side??? i really agree with the brian anderson comment.
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 10:42 AM) Thompson's wRC+ by year: 2010: 106 2011: 114 2012: 120 (A+), 153 (AA), 46 (AAA, only 20 PA though) 2013: 107 2014: 108 2015: 114 With the exception of his 100 PA in rookie ball and his 20 PA in AAA in 2012, he's been an above-average hitter every year. So you're telling me that you don't see any drop off at all in him from AAA to MLB?
September 30, 201510 yr QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) So you're telling me that you don't see any drop off at all in him from AAA to MLB? i hope it is true. i really want to see you succeed.
September 30, 201510 yr I've never been Trayce's biggest fan but we're to the point where he has to be in consideration for a starting outfield spot next year, right?
September 30, 201510 yr The White Sox suck at hitting and defense. Sanchez and Thompson should make the team next year simply by hitting .230. Thompson should have an OBP of .300 which on this team makes him a top hitter.
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