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QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) any links to the article or the article in it self??? ahhh forget it. i am done.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) This is great news. Great to hear that at this juncture the Sox not only prize mediocrity, they reward it. How many more years do we have to watch yet another meh Sox team go out there and stink up the central division with there learn-as-you-go manager who's learned nothing as he's gone? It's simply embarrassing at this point, when we have the Blackhawks (regarded as the epitome of a sports organization) and, yes, I hate to say it, the CUBS, who spent the money and made the moves and got a real manager--yet here we are, again nowhere near the playoffs, with KW still running the franchise, coasting on the fumes of 2005. How does JR see that and not think to emulate it? Blow it up already FFS. We s u c k. i really could understand your rant and in most of it i agree. however in spite of the owners and kw, the sox can pull it off. do a marlins kind of acquisitions. pick up the necessary players via fa's including a marque player for the fans. make some smart trades to pick up some players that is and will be needed esp in prospects level. in other words go all in and loose some money for a yr. they will have a great tax write off built in.... it can be done. the only missing pieces or unknown peices will be catcher, ss and 2b. that is if they performed as hoped.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 01:49 PM) Hell no to Puig. Health and attitude issues galore. Also not sure about the dynamic with Abreu you make an excellent point esp with his attitude. only way will be 2 fold, the sox gets the lion share of the trade and if Jose A signs off. next yr, dodgers need to fix their our field numbers and get a cost control pitcher not via FA's. per dodger webs sites.

QUOTE (Coach @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 11:44 AM) While also acknowledging a need for tactical improvement, Hahn said the organization believes Ventura capable of making the changes needed to win. “If we didn’t feel as an organization that Robin had the ability to be a championship caliber manager, he wouldn’t be here,” Hahn said. “If we felt we didn’t have a championship caliber hitting coach, he wouldn’t be here. And here lies the problem. Ventura is not the only one to blame for these consecutive losing seasons. He is only part of the problem. But I have some questions. 1. Ventura had no managerial experience when hired. After 4 seasons, Ventura has not figured out how to manage at the major league level? He must be a really slow learner then. 2. After 4 seasons, how will Ventura change his tactics? All managers have their own way of doing things, so if upper management wants tactical improvements, who will really be making game time decisions? 3. How can any White Sox management or fan truly believe they have a championship caliber hitting coach if their offense has truly sucked for several years? All season long LaRoche has struck out 33% of the time. Wouldn't you think the hitting coach can help change his approach at the plate? LaRoche stands straight up. They may work in the NL but perhaps not in the AL. Either LaRoche should have changed or leave him out of the lineup. I have seen way too many swings at balls bouncing at 57-59 feet. No plate discipline. you make some interesting counters and really on the mark. but ref the bold, that is a complete crock of a gift wrap full of shiite. partly b/c of your #1 statement, but i remember the so called hands on quick training session they, by their own statement, put RV thru.

now is the biggest question. with the top 10 being protected.... will the sox get a top notch FA? a top notch fa with a couple of middle fa to help out, like a player who can play multi position including 3b. that will be nice.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 11:48 AM) I read articles talking about just that any links to the article or the article in it self???

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 05:50 AM) Given the extent of his prospect most teams know him very well, but the Sox definitely know him well. like the ones the sox picked last yr. chi ace program in the summer league. you know, the more i read about the ACE program of the sox. i wonder if it is their intentions to be like the cape cod league for chi players.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 03:45 AM) Now that the dust on the season has settled, I'm keeping an eye on 3 guys at 10: Corey Ray Chris Okey Bobby Dalbec Interesting enough, Corey Ray is a Simeon product. Wouldn't that be something to see a young man from the south side come home and be a star. His game has all the makings of a star too. Speed, power, defense...he's my early favorite for the pick. ref ray, - he went to U of L as a free swinger loaded with potential and will be working on taking more pitches and learning on how to read them per u of l sports site. Chris Okey - catcher very good defensive catcher who has a good bat. needs to gain weight for the rigors of catching in the upper level. per players profile. and Dalbec is my choice for the 1 rnd. all very good players.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 07:21 AM) It should be mentioned, that Shaw dangle was beautiful, but Pat Foley's line of "Shaw dances with the Stars!" was even better. Top notch, Pat. my sound this morning is intermittent but is this the one http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=840181

i bet this the the play that soxpride18 was talking about. i got this from another hockey site, i wanted to share this quick vid on Panarin..... maybe tied with some wonderful stick handling move i haven't seen in a while. enjoy http://www.sport-express.ru/hockey/nhl/news/924022/

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 03:51 AM) Hawks with the bling... http://blackhawks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=781640 https://mobile.twitter.com/NHLBlackhawks great find..... that ring look fantastic ... if you look on the twitter link the second pict, i never knew that thing was so freaking huge... it looks great by it self but when it is on a person. the org have done right to its players on this ring.

QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 12:49 AM) not sure why his spring training ABs would be more meaningful than his MLB ABs. no offense but if that is the case, why not bring up Matt Davidson to play 3b. he play decent 3b defense will hit a nice set of hrs.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 11:39 PM) Trayce was great, but he hasn't won s***. well i wasn't going to go there, but i am glad many posters are looking with both eyes open. TT will compete for the 4th OF'er. for those who think i am wrong, how many times does a player / prospects comes up and performed better than their minor league stats. defensively he may be elite but the sox also needs someone to hit. i wish i was wrong. he is a 200 - 230 avg hitter with nice power and great "D"

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 06:45 PM) Commensurate Commiserate is what we'll be doing when another year of (young) impact players from abroad has passed us by... i didn't think any signing was going to happen, as sad as it is. the owners doesn't see a need for him. they have some depth in the minors and that is all they are going to do. hope that they develop. they will not spend extra money if they don't have too. i really do hope the prospect really develop esp hawkins.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 09:11 PM) Ed Walsh Chris Sale Wilbur Wood Eddie Cicotte Billy Pierce Red Faber Ted Lyons And then there are the pitchers who "put on a Sox uniform" but didn't spend their prime pitching seasons here. Don't get me wrong, Buehrle was a great pitcher for us, but let's not overrate him. His numbers aren't nearly as good as the posters here make them sound. i am speaking for me, i didn't overrate him. i just love his bull dog mentality in coming after the hitters. its like i will throw you my best, beat me if you can hit it. that is what everyone remembers. i think.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 05:19 PM) Just saw the replays. That looked like some Toews his rookie year on the breakaway against Colorado. great point, i just can't wait to see what is all the excitement on Dano. i really would like to see him up and playing. if he pans out, the gm has got this team ready for the season. nice new talent.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 04:17 PM) The Hawks would have considered moving him if they didn't have the young talent. Sadly, some of this young talent is going to be lost as a result of Bowman overpaying Brent Seabrook. seabs overpaying is one thing, i think it was discuss last week of loosing players thru attrition. the hawks really want to keep the main core together for as long as they can. which i can see the reason. i on the other hand would like to see a gradual shift in talent, coming in and leaving. i have the up most confidence in coach Q to get them ready for the season, esp the playoff.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 02:41 PM) I watched the whole game. I don't know how someone missed Bickell's hits. He had 2 on his first shift of the game. Flattening one player against the boards as well. He actually had a pretty good game, was noticeable. you may be right. i will not disagree with some one who watched the game. i was going by 2 boxscores. thank for the correction.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 02:26 PM) I think it has more to do with his repeated legal issues yeah, with the new unspoken gentlemen game or something like that, it appears as some team does not want a negative pr. if he and it does appear that he will come unscathed in this, the hawk may move him in the right deal next yr. that is if some of the young talent develops. they will need to move someone or 2 b/c of the salary cap....

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) I expect the Sox to sign him to a contract so he can retire as a White Sox, ceremony and all. it would great and fitting, if he can be at spring training and pitch the opening day.... for 1 pitch and then leave and retire. i really thought he would sign as a free agent....

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 02:48 AM) 2 assists tonight nice game... according the stats sheet .... no one had any meaningful hit. bickell 4 shots on goal and 0 hits. no pts.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 3, 2015 -> 05:11 PM) Nor should they, with all their abundant resources, the number of pitchers on the market this year...they're essentially in the same position as the Cubs last off-season. As badly as the Porcello, Ramirez and Sandoval moves went for them, they're always one great off-season away from being back in instant contention again, although Toronto's going to be a tough out for the near future. this pains me for even thinking of this. but the northside will be a hell of a team to really beat in the future. they may not even to need to trade a #1 sp,when the fa's is right around the corner. their farm is loaded.... really loaded. even with up and coming pitchers. but it is right now. now add a price, a cueto, bringing him back to the NL. this is what i am looking at. can they implode again as they did when they had a group of promising players in their system.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 3, 2015 -> 05:14 PM) My way-too-early opening day starting lineup prediction for Sox: CF- Eaton 3B- Prado 1B- Abreu LF- Melky C- Wieters DH- LaRoche RF- Thompson SS- Ramirez 2B- Sanchez SP- Sale 3 main offseason acquisitions will be Wieters, Prado (trade) and Buehrle my 2 questions, ref wieters - how many yrs and the cost?? Martín Prado - what will seattle accept for this trade. i really do like the prado. ref - TT i will discussed this in spring training. i still have some thoughts to think out.

but for me, the sox have had the good luck to have a great core to work with. some teams would have loved to have the sox luck in that part. the 1990-1994 team was really good and i will leave it at that. this present team is set to go hog wild, with the right pickups and, i can't help this, but a great or even a good manager. my only questions to the owners. can't you see this, use your best judgement to do the right thing.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 3, 2015 -> 03:22 PM) Agreed. The hypothetical trades are either that or an extremely underwhelming return. Sale is a once in a generation type pitcher. I wouldn't trade him for prospects, unless there are lots of them and they come from the Dodgers or Cubs. even then, i am bringing up this - this is a #1 sp who is elite. again, those kind do not come often let alone a #1 sp with a great cost control salary and yrs.