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QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 07:31 PM) I think a team really has to trust its OWN scouting in these particular cases, and the fact that current judgements are often based on minimal inputs. We've seen mis-scouting of Lexi, Puig and Abreu, among others. It's understandable. scouting rpt is one thing, luck and fulfill of potential is like anything, luck.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 07:25 PM) Has anyone here heard anything about the availability of Korean third baseman Jeong Choi? Before the season, there was talk of him becoming a FA this offseason. Supposedly has Choo-like OBP skills with decent pop and glove. Checked his stats awhile back and it looks like he's played less games than his teammates (and not putting up the greatest #'s) so maybe dealing with injuries. Has been called the David Wright of Korea. He'll be 28 for next season. Not sure if the org feels Conor's D is adequate at 3B, or if he'll be a platoon DH/1B or even LF down the road, or traded. The Davidson plan is currently shelved. This could be another possibility. yeah, I been waiting for info on him. I show two video's of him during the season in the catch all sports. 1 was a hr that cleared the ballpark. 2 was the horrible slide that could've broken his neck. they took the slide and made a comedy of it. at first I did too, then realize how bad it was. he is an interesting prospect.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 06:36 PM) Dayan Viciedo was a great prospect coming out of Cuba, I'd say at least as celebrated as Soler was if not more. Soler came later & right before the new CBA limits on INTL FA were to take effect, which is why he got so much more money. Soler was also more of an atheletic prospect, but Viciedo was a 3B prospect then who was touted as a truly elite all-around offensive talent. Obviously that hasn't happened. OTOH Alexei Ramirez was a borderline UT player and nothing more. Jose Abreu had a slider-speed bat and it was doubtful he could handle the inside pitch. Puig was going to need a lot of time in the minors. None of that was true. But then the other guy the Cubs signed with Soler was Conception who was a bust. Then you have the other guy we really wanted out of Cuba who the Royals signed and busted (forget his name ATM but he was on our radar too). Chapmann has worked out great. But then you have the guy IIRC the Rays got, the switch hitting 1B who received some comps to Kendry Morales. Morales worked but this guy didn't make it. I think this was Leslie Anderson IIRC? Got some Darin Erstad comps too I think but in a good way as a strong defensive OF & 1B not so much as a s***ty grinderballer. Also Leonys Martin in Texas, IIRC he was thought of as a 4th OF. He has done well for them & he's definitely a starter. He wasn't a big name target then but a lot of teams would have entered the bidding had they known he'd turn out the way he did. Also Iglesias with the Tigers, he was a defense-only guy that Boston signed as a reach. And they were right about the defense part, but he also was the centerpiece of the Peavy deal on their end and the Tigers wanted him so bad they sent Avi Garcia to a division rival for him. Not bad for a "reach" signing that wasn't supposed to be a factor. In short, take all these reports with a grain of salt. As a rule I love the way the Cuban players play. I love the way they approach the game for the most part. There's a lot of talent over there & I will trust our scouts on this guy when they watch his workouts. The first thing I'd do (and I'm sure this has already been done) is ask Abreu about this guy. If Abreu thinks he's good enough to hit alongside him in the order & if Abreu thinks he's a fit in the clubhouse and so on, then we should be prepared to spend good money to sign this guy. excellent rpt. many thanks

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 01:47 PM) I would put odds down that the Sox don't sign any of those guys anyway. you may have a point, but with Russell Martin, according to mlb trade rumors, sox will make a bid for him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 04:08 PM) 70 power Not an "advanced" hit tool Strong arm Questions about his glove High risk, high reward that point sure sound like DV when they were trying to describe him. well thanks for this, his question about his glove, sounds like a DH in the making.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 05:44 AM) Well there were two major players the Sox were in on until the end this offseason. Do either look like a bust? well on 1 player nah. but with the other.... we will see.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 05:09 AM) Good man. Interested to see how Hahn handles the rotation into next year. I don't know about others but I'm fine with Noesi in there and same with me as well, but last yr taught me 1 thing. can't have the eggs in 1 basket so to speak.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 05:01 AM) yes eaton has to play at least 130 games next year otherwise forget it. He's the difference between 82 wins and 86 probably and maybe even 87 if he can play 150. I agree so much in what you said. a very good leadoff hitter is worth its weight in gold.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 05:01 AM) Don't get me wrong here, I love Eaton as the leadoff hitter, but if he keeps hitting this well w/RISP and Micah is the impact guy I hope he is, then I think it's at the very least an interesting idea. Would they bat the 2 back to back? Where would you hit Micah? I agree but I would like to have a season to judge to see if there is another good leadoff hitter to replace eaton.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 05:02 AM) I'm just saying. The Sox were major players in what I consider no brainer international signings this offseason. I knew MONTHS before and posted on here about Abreu. I was excited about the interest in the pitcher as well as any. but the 1 things that taught me was that more homework needed to be done in any future signings. I don't really know much about the pitcher but I was intrigued.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 04:57 AM) This is from the top: What international FA signing has been a bust? well if that pitcher threw 160 pitches in 1 game and on the very next day threw another 3 innings.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 04:55 AM) Got zero info at the moment because I've been out of the loop ,but something I will dig into. The Sox have some money, the question is will it be worth it. I know from the mouth of the horse that they think FA bats this offseason are overpriced, especially VMart there is also a Japanese pitcher that will get money thrown at him as well.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 04:46 AM) Not going to happen from what I hear. Wants one last 2 year contract that is fairly large. Not a fix for the Sox unless you think they are contending next year and IMO he is a good #4 what is your take on Cuban Tomas and can and will sox win the bidding.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 04:30 AM) And Eaton's going to have to be on the field for 145-150 games, at least. Garcia's got to be a legit, middle of the order, run-producing bat who hits 18-24 homers...like an Alex Rios, but the good version. Survive the expected regressions from Abreu and Conor. Sanchez/Semien need to hold their own offensively and defensively. That bat is more likely to be someone like an Adam Lind or Nick Markakis type...the second tier of hitters, but not the bottom of the barrel guys like Carlos Pena or Raul Ibanez. I'll hold onto my dreams for Shields and Kemp and be only slightly disappointed and not at all surprised. The Stanton injury is further evidence that it's dangerous to put all your eggs in too many superstar baskets, so to speak. Because if one of those guys goes downs or underperforms, your whole season's toast. re eaton, I hope he can stay healthy for a full season. the only way the sox should take on kemp and his salary if dodgers add a couple of other prospects as a pkg.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 04:22 AM) If I knew we'd get the Sox version of Edwin Jackson, I'd be all over him. Maybe he works well with Coop, I don't know, but I think he could absolutely be part of a successful Sox rotation. Sale-Quintana-Jackson-Rodon-Noesi is youngish, but if Rodon is what we all think he is, then we're asking EJax to be our fourth starter. hey heads how is it going. re ejax, I think the sox needs a supply of sp just in case 1 of the sp gets hurts or produce like felipe paulino. the sox still has erik johnson maybe making another run at starting.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 02:54 AM) I don't think he is. I think Montas has a better chance of being the closer-of-the-future then Petricka. And first and formost, I am all for Montas trying to make it to the MLB in a starting role. you know, the sox have some really live arms coming up and the farm systems should starting to produce some really interesting prospects. Montas has a nice profile. I also think that it going to be really interesting seeing how all the prospect will develop. QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 02:21 AM) It's a real interesting question and one that's really tough to answer. I think if the plan is to win in 2015 I'd probably add a guy like Janssen or Robertson if he somehow doesn't get resigned. If they have eyes on 2016 as a more realistic time to win then I'd have no probably going with Petricka for a full year. I think the sox need a stopgap player to step in and stabilize the pen. I think that will be done getting that player thru fa.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 12, 2014 -> 03:22 AM) Peavy has been really good since being traded. Guys think that's just him playing in the NL or does he still have some life left?? I wouldn't mind bringing him back for a year or 2. both, but I wouldn't mind to see what would be his salary request.

according to mlb trade rumors, Tomas will be scheduling a showcase for next wk. supposedly all mlb teams will be there. you know, I really wonder how much it will cost to sign him?

several more Cubans are available. does anyone have any info on Cuban Hurler Jorge Despaigne, beside that mlb trade rumors have?? does the sox have anymore int'l money left?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 02:51 PM) How can they bring those guys in with their current attendance? think about it this way, which came first the chicken or the egg? how can someone think about attendance with out putting the product on the field. you also have to remember the mentality of the sox fans. we are a tough sell and we demand high rtns for our investment of season tickets. the northsiders thing of the game as social time. I also remember back in the 80's the newpaper came out a how to define the sCrubs fan and sox fan. during a game you ask the northsider what going on, that person wouldn't even know what you are talking about. now ask the sox fan and the response with be given in terms of score, men on base, trade possiblility, the performance of pitcher, what the GM needs to do and whether the sox have a chance of playoff.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 06:16 PM) This is why I haven't been a "tanking" proponent at all this year. If were legitimately in the conversation for top 3, it would be different, but the difference between 6 and 9 or whatever is not even close to as valuable as the breakouts of our current players that might lead to more winning. I really doubt if the sox can over come for the 1 pick. I would be really happy for the 4+ pick. in my opinion the first 3 are already set with prospects. the question will be if the sox will address their needs with hs'ers or college prospects. I still like Ian Happ, but who knows come next spring.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 03:04 PM) For my two cents, seeing Avi Garcia succeed is more important to the long term future of the White Sox, versus having a slot or two of a higher pick. yeah I know, the sox systems needs the prospects to succeed

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 05:34 PM) Super, super awesome early list with great info: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2015-mlb-draft-top-51/ thanks for the article I love all the new info of mock draft and how other sites view the players. however I was taken aback on the list of new players listed. very interesting indeed.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 04:47 PM) No. I grew up with Shelties, so I'm familiar with herding type dogs. And we did research so we didn't just randomly choose a breed. What are you referring to? the corgi are a great breed, but they act like your little baby, and expect to be spoiled. you really have to keep them on a diet. there rep is they will eat themselves to death. sometimes they are a little yappers unless you train them. you will need to have a stern hand in training but once train, they are great. the little quote about them is, big dog in a little body. oh btw, they like to play, only on their time. so some of them will avoid children until they want to play, and not before. I have corgis for 15-20 yrs. they are great.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 11, 2014 -> 03:55 PM) We bought a Pembroke Welsh Corgi about a month ago. Birthday present for the fiancee. Went with Cooper as a name which I'm sure is quite unoriginal. I wanted to name him Jamaal Charles but that was immediately shot down have you ever had a corgi, b/c there are things you need to know.