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QUOTE (TRU @ Sep 4, 2014 -> 09:19 PM) You either have a problem reading, or comprehending.. I don't know which one it is. I never "clamored" how Davidson could have done. Ive said multiple times we will never know how he would have done because he didn't get the opportunity to. For a team that knew they were going to be throwing away 2014 and rebuilding, what sense does it make to play Gillaspie fresh off his .245 season with no real attractive tools over Davidson when you look at what he did at the end of 2013 plus ST (Where he batted quite well). If he stunk it up in ST, I could understand that. Its not about what I think he would have done, he should have been given the opportunity based of the teams situation and the fact that Gillaspie is nothing more than a situational player and will never be anything more than that. .245 hitter last year, .267 hitter this year outside of 2 months. Guy cant play everyday, sorry, but that's FACT. I will refrain from answering the first part.... where I so much want too. but lets talk about st. yes the sox made a trade for a 3b and I would say b/c there wasn't a viable option there, or so they thought. conor came on and performed really well and Davidson didn't. the sox kept conor prob with the hope in seeing what kind of player conor develop into. it was a try out for both and 1 won and the other didn't

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 4, 2014 -> 07:34 PM) The Davidson issue is kind of strange. I remember reading one post saying he should have been the starter and they are blaming his whole lousy minor league season on the disappointment he felt in not making the team. That's assuming way too much and kind of a crazy leap. That's taking the backup quarterback popularity thing to a wild level. Just because Davidson is unknown doesn't mean he's good. Just cause the Sox traded for him doesn't mean he'll make it. I agree but I would like to make another point. they are professional baseball players. what does it say for a player who gets a hurt feeling b/c he doesn't get it his way.

Conor, regardless of most posters opinion, is a good to really good part of this team. he has proved it so far. he has what, over 400 at bats, posting a decent avg, until as of Aug, and at a nice salary. that in itself should be a nice position for at least 1 - 2 more yrs. worst case, after next yr, he either put up the same #'s and he is a future part or trade bait. the sox does not have the players not at this time the leverage to invest for another missing piece for a great team.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 4, 2014 -> 12:27 AM) Depending on what the Sox see, Masterson is a guy I could see the Sox targeting for a bounceback year. same here. I can see a mutual agreement for 1 yr stopgap for the sox and a rebuilding yr for him. even thou I would like 2 yrs.

1. Tomas for sure. 2. Lester. all depending on the salary. wouldn't cost a pick. 3. Hanley Ramirez - I don't know why, but I like him. 4. mid level rp.

I was just reading on Justin Masterson being sent to work of the pen. has his skills really fallen by the wayside that much? I am wondering if he would be a nice pickup on a low salary to rebuild his skills.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 07:14 PM) Sure. The Sox are 3.5 games ahead of the Reds for #12. man, you are really doing a great job.

seeing how JR works, does anyone think that Dunn can be a good, I don't know color man in the booth? It appears as Paulie has a job after his playing days working with the sox in some way.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 10:31 PM) Just out of curiousity, whats with the writing like this? You're certainly not the worts on the board, I myself am prone to a lot of whoopsies that I have to go back and edit, but the format is a bit odd. Case and point.............^^^ I was told a long time ago by some tutors, if I shorten my sentences, I can compose better. if you ask any of the old times who post on this board, I was even worst than I am now. it seem with my lack of writing skills, if I shorten them I can be better. as I said, I tried my whole life to improve. thank god for secretaries at work. they were weight in gold was huge in order to make my work look decent. second. I have this, I don't know but to assume a lot of the readers know what I am trying to get across, so I get do the ..... to get to the point. bad habit. but let me tell you this.... oops. the posters on this site are the best...

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 04:53 PM) Honestly LDF, I did not have you in mind when I wrote that. There are one or two people on here that forget they are on a message board and not texting a friend which is what I found amusing. Not that my grammar is the best but I do make an effort. nah that is ok. i am sorry for using your post to reply. i know my stuff is hard to read. peace

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 03:18 PM) that was funny.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 05:05 AM) I must say, the English in this thread has been abused to the likes a red headed step child has not yet seen. Truly an educational experience. i know its prob ref to me somewhat, but i can't help it. sincerely i am sorry to all.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 03:14 PM) The White Sox are known to track all of that stuff. really, i didn't know that. wow, whom ever suggested it, was really thinking about the big pict.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 02:45 PM) You really don't want them throwing after the game because of all the fatigue and stress they've put on the arm. I do agree they need to throw more but it should be on the off days. Physiologically, when the muscles are fatigued they will provide less support to the joint and put a greater stress on the ligaments. This is a good way to have a UCL sprain or tear. that is from the medial side. i understand what was being posted, but i was not knowledgeable on the medical issues. thanks

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 01:47 PM) http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/pos.../true/minpa/300 Unless you had Yan Gomes, Salvador Perez or Derek Norris, you're going to be doing fairly well with Tyler Flowers. He's not hurting the team offensively and defensively as much as LF, RF, and 2B. If you look at all of MLB, he's sitting 15th out of 26. Way ahead of Salty, McCann, AJ, Grandal, Zunino, M. Montero, etc. And we'd be just as likely to get an upgrade if we traded for Wilin Rosario as for Grandal, arguably. Change of scenery candidate who would cost less than Grandal. Unless we signed Carlos Ruiz this past offseason or COULD sign Russell Martin (and he's going to get a bigger deal than warranted at his age, just like Victor Martinez), we'd arguably be a lot worse off with all the money sunk into McCann or Salty, so there's that much. good point but as LittleHurt05 said, i can deal with Flowers. i rather save what ever salary the sox will use to get a better player at another position.

an early look at prospects. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/never-...p;vkey=news_mlb

QUOTE (onedude @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 04:04 AM) Honestly...He officially pitched that amount, but do we add all the pre game and pre inning pitches to that total? I think a good way to condition a pitcher is to have them continue throwing after they've exited the game. Not necessarily 100% but enough to build a bigger stamina/endurance. I respect what you are saying, but I would let the professional continuing doing what they are doing.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 04:00 AM) I think you all owe peavy44 an apology can you pls remind me, why?

QUOTE (Bruce_Blixton @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 01:54 AM) I thought you guys did a great job with the recaps, they helped add color to the box scores. Thanks for doing it all season long! as a add on to what I wrote, and to this post. getting info on ALL the levels of sox prospects was adding to the hype of next yr..... at least for me.

for those who knows. re: Phil Bickford everything I have read seems to point him as a rp | sp. one article (baseball America) even said between now and next draft day, they would like to see him separate from the rp into more of a sp. any idea?????

QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 03:52 AM) Me as well. Discussion is the only way to learn. you say learn ...... I on the other hand will say, discussion is the only way to talk sox baseball. no one is right and everyone is wrong.

I been thinking.... if the sox does manage in some way to improve, I can deal with having Flowers as catcher.

QUOTE (Timmy U @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 02:22 AM) Sort of a depressing list. Taylor's 28, Carroll's 28, Phegley's 26, Danks is 27, Bassitt isn't a top prospect. Semien is the only one of these guys who is a potential starter down the road and he's probably going to platoon at third so we'll see him a quarter of the time. I would have loved to see if Mitchell could have been a DeAza-level contributor. Instead, we're stuck with another month of the Jordan Danks experiment. Oh well, more time to focus on my job. damn...... you just made me depress.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 02:37 AM) Sure, you can make a debate that Conor Gillaspie would be the next player on the roster you could make a good argument who has the most value, vs. a rusty Garcia coming off that injury in April. Garcia was a consensus Top 100 prospect, ahead of Davidson but not in the Top 50. Conor was close to a first round draft pick, but blocked by Sandoval for most of his SF career. I think most on the board would argue for taking Garcia if they were an opposing GM (based on potential), whereas 1/3rd or maybe even 40% would prefer the proven results and possible defensive improvements at a premium corner infield producter in Gillaspie. Then you have to look at their respective ages as well. The problem with dealing Conor is that makes Semien/Davidson your starters, or you make a move for Sandoval/Hanley Ramirez or maybe Headley and spend a lot of money that may or may not give you more than marginal improvement, especially when you consider the backside of those expected contracts. I didn't know that. btw I am not for trading conor. but for this discussion of players who has trade value. I can see your point.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Sep 3, 2014 -> 02:28 AM) There really isn't a right or wrong as there isn't a great deal of research on any of it. My opinion is just that it was early in the season however throughout spring training and into the season he had built up to it. He's had times on the DL where he trew 80 pitches and it caused problems. He just has mechanics that are very difficult to repeat and is prone to having issues, albeit minor ones so far. Hopefully he is good enough at it that they remain minor problems. hey that is kool. I really enjoyed this. peace