Whitewashed in '05

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Nov 2, 2008 -> 02:47 AM) IMO, his "sermon" is what stole the show. You could tell that was legit. But I more than got my money's worth. I do think that LupE.N.D. will be more of 3 separate albums instead of an album that's 3 discs long. But frankly, i'm a little more excited that he may be recording the album at a studio that i'm currently working at. I believe its supposed to triple disc album released all at once. While his speech was really really good, I wish it could have come more in the middle of the show kind of like an intermission. Concerts usually escalate in energy while the speech kind of brought the hype down and then jumping into his last song was awkward. I believe American Terrorists would have been a perfect song after his little speech.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Nov 1, 2008 -> 12:41 AM) Just getting in from seeing Lupe Fiasco @ the Congress. As usual, he didn't disappoint. IMO, it's crazy how much rap sounds with a live band. The show was filmed for a DVD, so I can't wait to pick that up. He also announced that his last album will be a triple-disc...insane. The show was insane!!! My first time seeing him too. Wow, he puts so much energy into his performances. He also went off about how Chicago is the murder capital of the nation with many expletives which shocked everyone in the crowd. He gave a moment of silence to Jennifer Hudson and family as well as a little campaigning for Obama. I would rather LupE.N.D. be separate albums than a triple album.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Oct 18, 2008 -> 02:46 PM) It's not even really close. Vazquez is a much better pitcher than Garland, and that didn't change in 2008. Javy will never sniff 18 wins in a season let alone back to back. I know I know, wins are more of a team stat, but Javy doesn't even have a .500 record in his career. Javy has better stuff, but doesn't utilize it. I'll take the guy who can give you a good performance in big games and is accountable for his performance to a guy who doesn't care about his lack of performance. Garland did have a bad year last year. Although I really don't care if Javy doesn't allow as many hits per season or strikes out more people. If he doesn't use his above average pitches to Jon's good to average pitches and they have similar career numbers then what good is his stuff? I also don't think you can use the underperformed tag with Javy anymore. He's shown what type of numbers he will give you whether he has great stuff or not. Expecting anything more from Javy than a 4 ERA season with 12-15 wins is expecting too much.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Oct 18, 2008 -> 01:45 PM) The Sox in the mode to build from within in terms of starters IMO. I see JD, Floyd, MB, Vaz and Richard next year, but in 2-3 years, I see it as this: Danks is gonna be this team's ace for the forseable future, he just needs to learn to be more efficient, which he is getting better at. Buehrle will be the second guy, the you know you can count on for consistency and leadership. Floyd is going have to continue to improve to be this team's #3 and hopefully #2, so you can split Mark and Danks. Keep the walks down, learn to pitch over errors and field the position better is what he has to work on. Luckily, most of this comes with experience. He also could benefit from a cut fastball to help against lefties. Also fortunate, the Sox organization is becoming one of the best at teaching this pitch. Poreda will hopefully be in the rotation by now and not in the pen or some other organization. If he is throwing 96 MPH with heavy sink, I don't care how bad his secondary pitches are, he is gonna be a very good pitcher. Hopefully, he continue to improve his secondary pitches and develops a cut fastball to help against righties. Richard should be a perfect #5 pitcher in a couple of years. Works fast, can get deep into games, low walks and a good teammate. I don't see him every becoming a great pitcher, but for a fifth starter if he can provide 10-15 wins a year with a 4.2-4.6 ERA, he would be fine there. He just needs to learn to throw to first base, but he looked very comfortable toward the end of the year in the majors and he is hard workers who will continue to get better as he has more years as a baseball-only player. So in three years, I think these should be reasonable numbers from our starters: Danks: 15-20 wins, ~3.00 ERA Floyd: 15-18 wins, ~3.50 ERA Buehrle: 12-16 wins, ~3.75 ERA Poreda: 10-14 wins ~4.00 ERA Richard: 10-14 wins, ~4.50 ERA I don't see Vaz going anywhere this off-season, because I don't think KW wants to put a bid in for a top pitcher. The next group of pitchers will cost more than Vaz and are not really that much better. Vaz is a bum in big games, but Garland is gonna get paid more than him, but Vaz > Garland still. I am just looking forward to the development of Richard and Poreda and I really don't care if you have four lefties because as long as Buerhle and Richard are not ack-to-back, they are all very different. Sox should continue to build from within so that they can go out and use the money to resign their own players and get some offense help. You're not going to be good with just one plus pitch. Poreda needs at to work on his secondary stuff or he's in the pen. Vaz > Garland huh? I'll take Garland.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Oct 17, 2008 -> 11:54 AM) So long as Gavin keeps the ERA down, I could care less how many runners steal bases against him. That ERA would go down with less runners in scoring position. It really doesn't matter though, he's just very slow to the plate. Those walks need to go down though.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Oct 17, 2008 -> 08:43 PM) Too man "if's" If the Rays hadn't lost Longoria for a month, they end up with the best record. Javy pitching like crap= less talent than the Rays basically. I actually thought we matched up well with Boston or the Angles. Did not want to see the Rays. I will not declare us automatic champs with CQ, Crede, and Count, but I will say there probably would not have been game #163. Which would have put us in a better situation to compete. I would say with those 3 we would be challengers for the WS. You are talking about 3 vital parts to a team. When an MVP candidate, your teams best clutch hitter, and a solid starting pitcher with postseason experience goes down that severely hampers your chances. Not many teams lose big parts of their teams in each aspect of the game and win it all. Offense, Defense, and Pitching. We lost big in each department and paid for it.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Oct 16, 2008 -> 01:32 PM) Well, was anyone right on Floyd? Tough to see this one coming. Even within the Sox organization, I doubt many (if any) believed he'd win 17 games. I don't think anyone saw him winning 15+, but I believe KW thought he could win 10+. Anytime the rotation was questioned KW just said the kids will be fine, Contreras is the key... He was right.

The dialogue is really not that funny, but his imitations of him are pretty accurate. There are some funny parts though. "ozzie are you saying some of your players are gay? Did you see how they threw the ball today??" lol

There's no reason for anyone to tell someone else that. It's pretty disrespectful. I was at the tiebreaker game and I was pretty into it. I would also say it wasn't artificial excitement. I always get loud with runners on and our big bats coming up or after our pitchers are 1 strike away from striking out the side or getting out of a jam. Late in the game every out just gets me that much more into it. If the people next to me don't get up it doesn't bother me, but there's also no reason for someone to tell someone else to sit down unless they have no ballpark etiquette (standing up and shuffling all game long, being loud obnoxious cursing up a storm, etc).

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 03:52 PM) Please refresh my memory. http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/gamed...sp&c_id=cws

QUOTE (rangercal @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 11:05 PM) f*** YOU MLB/WHITE SOX! These must be the Tickets that they could not scalp on stubhub! I just shelled out $300 for the same exact seats that would now cost me $100 through ticketmaster. You definitely have a right to be pissed. All of a sudden were down 0-2 in the series and they start selling tickets. I never even got a notification for tickets when I registered for them. Brooks Boyer may need to be made aware of this.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 30, 2008 -> 02:18 PM) Lupe concert Oct. 31 (Halloween show) I'll be attending. Make it 3 of us. The new people under the stairs just came out and no one has it in stock! Their show was really good a while back!

QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 3, 2008 -> 12:13 PM) Tampa fans boo AJ. Is it just a popular thing to do? Remember the baserunning play he made at 2nd during our regular series there? I don't blame them on booing him. There are a couple other teams as well. The rest of the league are just followers who have no reason.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 06:10 PM) sounds like Aybar was talking s*** to AJ -- missed that on the tv coverage. has there ever been a brawl in the playoffs? When was this?

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Oct 2, 2008 -> 06:32 PM) Rogers on The Score said it was to "get into the head of Balfour" as he supposedly can loose his cool pretty easily. I think Orlando should have focused a little more on hitting the ball than barking and one of the best set up men in baseball this season. Clown. That's kind of dumb... especially since he's the one chasing pitches to K... I would think someone has to do something to provoke you to go after them.

Anyone know why OC was popping off at Balfour?

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 09:27 PM) Has anybody checked out the Hot Corner on mlb.com yet? It has 4 unique camera angles that give different views including in the dugouts during the games. It'd be kind of cool to have on while you are watching the game, but the cameras don't follow the action, so you wouldn't want to only watch it. Anyone have a link to this? I tried looking for it, but I can't find the video with the 4 diff angles.

QUOTE (CryptviLL @ Oct 1, 2008 -> 09:06 PM) Does anyone know or have any experiences of walking up to a game like this (big playoff game) and trying to get tickets? Is their anyway id be able to be at the trop tommorow getting tickets? or no chance? I don't know about Tampa, but there's usually a lot of people trying to buy tickets at the park. They will probably be around the same price as a stubhub or something.

One game at a time! Let's go Javy pitch like you're capable! GO SOX!!!! :headbang

Brad Lidge is very metally fragile right now. If he blows his next save I think he'll start having trouble. Although if he saves a couple in a row that confidence will be pretty high.

QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Sep 30, 2008 -> 11:45 PM) Fathom, I was at the game, too -- and thought the same thing about PH for Gomez. Jenks doesn't hold runners well, so Gomez and Span were threats for that reason. Still, the way Bobby was throwing, I don't think anyone had much of a chance. Great to see that -- and probably made possible by scoring a couple extra yesterday so Bobby didn't have to be used. I'm sure Gardy's thought process was their down by a run so why not bring in a left handed hitter with power that could tie it up. Had he hit a homer it would've worked out. Good thing he didn't and that's that.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 30, 2008 -> 11:37 PM) Holy f***ing s***. I can't even describe my feelings from the game tonight. Just an incredible place to be tonight. I give myself, along with the rest of the crowd, a HUGE pat on the back. There are just so many subplots that go with it. The two Hall of Famers putting this team on their back. The two kids in Danks and Floyd stepping their s*** up. Ugh, I can't even type right now. After celebrating winning for a bit I got huge heaches anytime I screamed and now my throat hurts like s***! Too bad! I'd do it again any day and I ditched school!!! HAHAHA

There was no hostility in my teasing and I didn't throw anything at them. Just a simple "bye bye go home!!!" I've been a visitor at other parks a few times myself so I know how it feels. When I read this thread I was mad cause I could relate to his story although it was no where near as bad. It could have been though. Dodger fans were real pricks.

WOWOWOWOWOWWOWOW!!! I can't believe it and I was at the game!!! What a game by Danksy. My goodness... Our SPs are one of the best and if we could just get some bullpen support and a little bit more of an all or nothing offense we can be tough to beat. I have to say this f*** YOU TWINS!!!! YYYYESSSS!!!!

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Sep 30, 2008 -> 10:01 PM) Awesome win! John Danks sacked up, and even a hat tip to Blackburn. I wish I would have seen a shot of Gomez, I'm sure he wasn't pumping his fist like a douche bag after BA caught the ball to actually win the division. What a regular season, what a game. Let's beat Tampa Gomez and Span both... and why not Punto...