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QUOTE(longshot7 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 03:07 PM) Thanks! I'm assuming that's for Saturday, right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Friday and Saturday.

Mike Cameron whined after being traded by the Sox. Why would we want him back?

Padres have scored 1 run in the last 33 innings @PETCO.

God damn, lots of Sox fans there.

I think this is a s***ty trade for the Tigers. Look at Urbina's numbers after April.

QUOTE(longshot7 @ Jun 8, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) I'm there for Sat & Sun - gotta root against the Twnkies as they face the Blue Crew Fri nite tho. is there a local bar we could meet at? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hangar has something setup at Dick's last resort.

Section 226 on friday. Somewhere in RF on Saturday. Park Pass for Sunday.

Just turned it on. 4 f***ing hits? I'm so sick of Contreras not getting any God Damn run support. I benched both Garcia and Contreras for their outings in Colorado, so you can all thank me for their great performances so far.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) I know I'll be cheering em on this weekend down in SD. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Me too!

Didn't Bevington used to bring in a reliever for an intentional walk only to bring in another reliever to pitch after the walk? Bev

Haven't seen this mentioned yet, but it was in today's Sun-Times that Guillen refuted reports that the Sox would be trading either Everett or Thomas.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 03:08 PM) The closest anyone has come to a 50-50 season is Alex in 1998 when he had 42 homers and 46 SB's. Brady Anderson actually had an odd stat during his career in that he's the only player in history to have a 20 homer 50 SB year and a 50 homer 20 SB year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I forget which video game it was, but Brady Anderson was being advertised as the only "50-50" player in MLB history. Between the Royals and Astros last year, Beltran had 38 HR and 42 SB's. Bobby Bonds had 39 Homers and 43 SB's in 1973.

He's has been terrible this year. In fact, he just walked in a run by walking Kris Benson.

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 12:08 PM) Prices are extremly low on half price monday <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's what, 5 games out of 81? Why do you think the crowds are so large on Monday?

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:12 AM) To all those wanting to discuss attendance: What's your solution? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lower the God damn prices.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 07:11 PM) How are they completely different? An overpaid player taking up roughly the same amount of his team's salary each year(about 25%, maybe a little less in Chavez's case) which is a burden to whatever else the team does financially...sounds very similar to me. The A's are going through their first rough season in awhile whereas Texas finished dead last for all three years that A-rod played with them. A-Rod was heading into the 4th year of a 10 year contract, and Chavez is heading into the second year of a 6 year extension. Beane chose to make Chavez, not Giambi, not Tejada, his franchise player. It would look foolish for him to simply give up on a struggling Chavez in the second year of a six year deal for something small. If Beane wanted to dump a big contract just to save money, don't you think he would trade Kendall before Chavez? QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 07:11 PM) And while the Sox can't just bring in big contract after big contract, they do realize that if they let Konerko go after this year, along with Timo, Shingo, and Everett, they are set financially again. Chavez is getting $11 mill per, while the Sox are getting rid of $8.75 mill in Konerko, $1 in Timo, $2.5 in Shingo(not positive on that number, but I'm pretty sure that's right), along with $4 mill in Everett. They do have the money to make such a move, especially if JR were to feel that it were putting the team over the top. Essentially the 2006 payroll would be the same as this year's -Frank + Frank's buyout, Pods' raise, Rowand's raise, Uribe's raise, a new third baseman, AJ's raise, Freddy's raise, Buehrle's raise, and most likely a big raise for Jon Garland. That would push the payroll to well over $85 million. I don't see JR and Co. doing that for 2006. QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 07:11 PM) What I'd like to know is why you ignored the fact that Billy Beane said about the exact same thing about the big 3, yet went right ahead and traded them anyways. You don't think maybe he is, you know, trying to keep the value of his player as high as it can be, considering he is hitting about .220 right now with a .600 OPS? When did Beane ever come out and say that him trading any of the big three was "garbage?" I recall him saying he wasn't going to trade Zito after he traded Hudson and Mulder. None of these three guys were in the second year of a six year deal. Hudson was in a walk year, and perhaps Beane was not comfortable with Mulder's health judging by his second half numbers. QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 07:11 PM) I know why you don't like the move...the guy has never put up a .900 OPS, he's never hit .290, yada yada...I quite frankly don't give a s*** about that. If he comes here, his average season with the A's(about .280 30 100 .880 I believe) could very well turn into .290 30+ 110 .900, and his defense is arguably the best in the majors leagues down at 3B...top 3 at the very least. I don't like the move because it's not realistic, and I know JR and Co. will not committ that much money to the franchise. It is now known that Chavez doesn't want to be here, and per the CBA, he can demand a trade because he is in the middle of a big contract. Why take a chance on a overpaid guy who doesn't want to play here? I like building this team around pitching (just look at the results,) so I'm not comfortable in giving a non-slugger slugger's money. I rather give this imaginary money for Chavez to Mulder and Buehrle in a couple of seasons.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 04:57 PM) Miguel Olivo wasn't going anywhere either.. :rolly <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When did he ever say that?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) What kind of person is Billy Beane who signed Chavez based on the fact that he said they would be contenders, then traded away virtually every decent player on the team, and ALL of Chavez's closest teammates? Credibility and discussing probable trades are not one in the same. He wants the value for Chavez to stay high, and making him untouchable will make the offers better, got it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How do explain him trading for Kendall? Hudson was in a walk year, and Mulder (had a terrible second half) has a team option for 2006? How many years lef t does Chavez have on his contract again?

Now that it is KNOWN that Chavez doesn't want to be here, are any of you concerned of him demanding a trade if was traded to us?

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 04:26 PM) Be prepared for the "STFU" when you post something they don't agree with.. :rolly <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's fine. But a lot of these posts have been based on anything but facts. Like Billy Beane wants to trade him NOW while his value is still high. A package of Crede and McCarthy will get us a great player like Chavez (signed to a monster deal) Can't wait for August 1st.

QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 03:58 PM) Chavez amused: Chavez got a kick out of a column in a Chicago-area newspaper, the Daily Herald, suggesting the A's might trade the third baseman because, "(Chavez) wants out of Oakland so bad that he's the one who apparently is fueling the trade rumor to the Sox.'' Chavez laughed and said, "Yeah, that's why I just signed a $66 million contract to stay here last year, so I can leave. Where does this stuff come from? I don't want to go anywhere near the East Coast, and to me Chicago is the East Coast, anything past Texas.'' A's general manager Billy Beane was outraged by the story, saying, "It's total (garbage.)'' <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I hope everyone gets that tattooed on their asses. I'll put it in the sig as a reminder.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 02:41 PM) Remember ARod prior to last season, being named team captain of the Rangers, and looking forward to staying in Texas for a long time after the trade negotiations broke down with Boston? About a week later he ends up in New York in a trade for Soriano. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Please. It was already known that Texas was willing to trade A-Rod with the whole Red Sox fiasco. After that s*** fell through, he was named captain, but then the Yankees surprised everyone by trading for him. It was also reported that A-Rod did not like that Showalter was the manager of the Rangers. A-Rod and Chavez are two COMPLETELY different trade senarios. A-Rod was coming off of a MVP season, the club knew it was a bad contract, the club WAS trying to trade him before he was traded, and the Sox can't throw money around like the Yanks.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 01:58 PM) No way. Borchard was never an option for that trade anyway. Reed was apart of his little three year plan along with olivo ( he supposedly doesn't trade anyone from it). Why the f*** would borchard have been untouchable oast year over reed? Makes no sense if you ask me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...s_cws&fext=.jsp

Here's a quote from the 5-30-2004 Tribune: here's a report from Ofman on 6-10-2004 (FWIW)