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IF Everett plays the field then it can't be in RF. He just doesn't have the arm for it. I think we would have to rotate the whole OF and put Aaron ROwand in RF, Scooty P. in CF, and Carl Everett in LF. That would keep our OF pretty good defensively while getting a better bat in the lineup. Carl would be too much of a liability in either CF or RF.

He's rich b****!!! Come on Billy, what you think I didn't have playstation? Where you been darkness? I have a joke to tell you. What did the 5 fingers say to the face? SLAP!!!!!!!! Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

Now it won't be until after 2PM. I don't know why the hell they do stuff like that.

He will be on after the break in about 5 minutes. www.espnradio1000.com

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QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 10, 2005 -> 07:19 PM) R dub is useless for the Bears. We kept him around for punt return purposes and that is no longer necessary now that we have drafted a punt returner in Bradley. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I remember mentioning this in a thread before about Bradley being a punt returner this year and some people called me crazy. HMMMMM...

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ May 7, 2005 -> 03:57 PM) Maybe this will help people like the trade more. Dont think of Derrick Lee as being a cubby, think of him being part of the world champion Marlins who beat the cubs in the playoffs and prevented them from winning a WS. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I like him just fine. I think he is a good 1st baseman. However, I am not trading Paulie and Shingo for him.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ May 6, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) I would trade Shingo and Kong for Dlee and Hawkins... i would trade them for just Dlee, Im sick of hearing all this Konerko is a our leader crap... You can be a leader all you want but when your hitting .190 your not helping your team. Derrick Lee would rejunivate our offense not to mention bring a great glove at 1st, Shingo would probably pitch really well in the NL too since most teams havent seen him. Yes it would help the cubs out, but dont forget Derrick Lee was the one who got them in the position to win in the 1st place, so w/out him there would be no hawkins talk anyway. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is kinda silly. Do you really think Konerko will hit .190 the whole season? Do you really think D Lee is going to hit .410 the whole season? I am guessing both players will hit around the same when all is said and done. So you will be trading someone who is going to be playing his best baseball later in the season for someone who already has played his best baseball already this season. That just doesn't make sense to me. P.S. a great glove at first is highly overrated.

All this and they still have the best record in baseball. What happens once they DO start hitting?

I was thinking about our weak schedule thus far and I thought the same thing. We are just beating weaker opponents and we are due for a fall once the schedule gets more difficult. However, the Twins have faced the same exact teams we have, minus the A's and add the Angels. Last time I checked they are behind us by 4.5 games. I think if we need to get better at something then Kenny will pull the trigger. Right now I see absolutely nothing to b**** about.

I read the same article. It almost feels like the guy was playing fantasy baseball and got upset at the guys that didn't produce for him. Most of these guys are very valuable to their teams and their respective teams would not have done as well without them. Most of the guys on his list are far from overrated. The only one I even agreed with was Guzman and possibly Kerry Wood.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ May 3, 2005 -> 02:49 PM) I think he was going for the injured and never going to be the same ballplayer again angle. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I see how you can get that from his comment but I am reading it differently. I read it as stating that Ozzie is trying to portray him as Albert Belle has been portrayed, as a malcontent. I agree with Steff that Albert Bell is being portrayed as something he wasn't. He supposedly did some silly things, such as supposedly chasing down kids and corked his bat, but he never tried to bash the White Sox organization. He never bashed anyone or any organization that I am aware of at all. I know it has been reported that he was a clubhouse cancer, but how the hell does anyone know this? I have heard former teammates say great things about him and never once anything bad. To me Albert Belle should not be compared to Maggs in any way. Maggs has proven to everyone that he is an ass.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ May 3, 2005 -> 04:13 PM) I hope so. That was a worthless signing last year. So was Drew Henson and Vinny Testaverde, but ya know. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What do you think they would have been better off doing? Keeping Chad and Quincy or getting Henson and Vinny? Just wondering your thoughts on that. Chad Hutchinson looks like he can be a very capable backup. Quincy has other issues. Drew Henson needs to be developed and Vinny is over the hill. Which way is better to go?

QUOTE(The Critic @ May 3, 2005 -> 04:34 PM) No, it's still 17 bucks, but that's much cheaper than most downtown lots and you get to stay there until after the game. It's a terrific idea, IMO, from a PR department that is doing everything it can to make the USCF experience pleasant for Sox fans. Tip of the cap to Brooks and company.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would take advantage of it and I work downtown. In a way it is a price issue, but for some like me, I don't be believe it is price. It is more about convenience. I pay 120 bucks a month for parking downtown so it is by far cheaper than 17 bucks a day. The reason it is more convenient is because I don't have to worry about 5 o'clock traffic to get down there. I can hop on the redline outside of my building with my buddies and be there in minutes. After the game I don't have to take the El back home with all the drunks. I will have the convenience of driving home in my comfortable car. It is a great idea and I am suprised they haven't thought of it before. They should really find a way to take advantage of all that parking they have there.

QUOTE(soxfan420 @ May 2, 2005 -> 08:08 AM) i would have to say a closer? as it is our only real weakness besides injurys <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would take Aubrey Huff, depending on what Dye is doing by the and on the asking price. I would then put him in left, put Pods in center and ARow in right. Biggest weakness right now is that number 5 hole in the lineup. We need someone to protect Konerko and get him some better pitches to hit.

QUOTE(T R U @ May 1, 2005 -> 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE(T R U @ May 1, 2005 -> 04:40 PM) :rolly <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :finger

QUOTE(T R U @ May 1, 2005 -> 04:37 PM) :headshake <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :headshake

QUOTE(T R U @ May 1, 2005 -> 04:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What a shame.

QUOTE(Mamoscott @ Apr 30, 2005 -> 11:48 PM) Ok, be sure to remind us in 3-4 years once Mark Bradley has hopefully shown enough promise to get some significant playing time on the football field for the Bears. : <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Mamo, was my post directed towards you? I believe it said ZOOM. I am sure he wont need me to come on and remind you. If/When it does happen you won't need me to remind you at all. Did ZOOM need a reminder during the football season last year? I doubt it, I think he already knew how certain players were doing. We can wait 3-4 years for Bradley and see what he amounts to, or wait 2-3 years on Mike Williams and see what he does. If Mike Williams is a bust then the Bears still made a good decision.

QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 30, 2005 -> 05:34 PM) yeah im so sure, the way your trying to argue s*** on here now is pathetic.. and clearly shows that you know VERY little about football.. Everything I have posted has had points backing it up.. yours is mindless bulls*** that makes no sense what so ever YET you cant get that through your head even when EVERYONE responding is telling you how wrong you are.. oops, havent started/finished with an insult yet... youre a dumbass, there we go, since thats my trademark! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Another quality post. Keep up the great work.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Apr 29, 2005 -> 08:17 PM) How do you figure that Williams is a project? The guy was flat out one of the most productive WR's in college football the two years he played. Did you not watch him play? Your whole "seperation" argument is total crap, I'm sick of hearing it. You're not backing it up with any kind of support other than your opinion. He had plenty of plays where he was wide open on a post or double move or slant with no one near him. More importantly, he still managed to make the catch regardless of pressure on fade routes or jump balls down field, something a lot of guys struggle with. The guy has excellent hands and leaping ability, he just can't be stopped in a jump ball situation. Apparently you have problems with him that no one else does. Kiper knows more about the draft than pretty much anyone, and he had him listed as the top prospect in the draft. Scouts Inc had him firmly listed has the #2 WR with a 97 rating, between Edward's 99 and Williamson's 94. The weakness that they listed had nothing to do with poor route running or a lack of seperation or a lack of agility. The first concern they list is his potential to gain weight, and his lack of top end speed, and he's not ultra elusive in the open field. Most guys his size dont fit the last two, and that's not his playing style anyways. That's two of the better scouts when it comes to the NFL draft that both like him quite a bit, compared to you being the only person I've seen having him listed as a "project" receiver that can't get seperation. I'd much rather have him than the guy that Scouts inc had ranked 3rd of the 3 big RB's, and stated "there are lingering concerns about his character, attitude and speed that make him a potential disappointment at the next level," especially if we take him #4 overall at a position that I don't see as a serious need. I'd rather go with the "physical phenom and a dynamic WR prospect with the potential to develop into an impact #1 target in the NFL," which is something the Bears could really use. I'm done with this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Zoom, I guess we will just have to see about who is right or wrong about this while they are playing on the field. I recall last year when we were arguing about how you should draft in fantasy football because you thought I drafted silly or foolishly since I did not draft a RB with my first two picks. You were wrong about that, and I ended up looking very smart and won both my leagues last year. Only the play on the field will tell which one of us will be right or wrong again this time.

QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 29, 2005 -> 04:26 PM) Irish your lack of knowledge of football is really something.. The NFL is not like the MLB or NHL where you draft players in the top rounds that hopefully one day will develop into good players for your club.. Theres a reason you cant just jump from High School into the NFL, drafting players that high you expect them to step in and play and be ready to play.. An 18 yr old can get drafted in round 1 of MLB or NHL and go to the minors and learn and progress, put on size and get experiance.. In the NFL you are already expected to be ready to step in and be a part of the team right away.. Most of the 1st to 2nd day draft picks in the NFL should be ready to come right in and contribute to the team.. The second day of the draft is where you go out and grab some players that have POTENTIAL and can sit and develop for a while without having to be thrown right into the mix although there are some that have done that (Randall Gay undrafted FA and starts for NE in the super bowl) First round NFL draft picks are not projects unless you run into special cases such as Matt Jones, and the only reason I even say him is because he has no posistion and its up to Jacksonville to decide how they are going to use him, even so he will see the field this season.. There is a huge difference taking a player like Bradley who had 34 career catches and was incosistant as opposed to taking a polished and NFL ready WR such as Mark Clayton.. Teams dont spend first/second round draft picks on players that arent going to be able to contribute in SOME WAY the immediate season unless they make a reach on a guy like Bradley.. Even though Jones has no posistion, he still showed good hands and has great speed, but how many times do you see teams take gambles in the first round on a player like him?? Not very often.. The only exception to this is QB, and there is no way around that.. QB is THE toughest posistion in football due to the fact that you have to know so much and do so much to be a good QB that its ok to draft one in the first round without having him step right in, thats just about the only posistion where the college ranks cant jump immediatley into the NFL and be a standout... WR, RB, CB all of those other skilled posistion can have guys come in from the first round, step in, and contribute right then and there.. Lets just look at it this way... Alex Smith - Should be able to start Ronnie Brown - Will Start Braylon Edwards - Will Start Cedric Benson - Will Start Cadillac Williams - Will Start Pac Man Jones - Will Start Troy Williamson - Will Start Antrel Rolle - Will Start Carlos Rogers - Will Start and thats only a sample.. Like wite said, you just must have a different thinking on what is a "project" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> T R U, I have forgotten more about football than you will ever know. You argue like a little kid as you always start or end with an insult. You can argue without doing that, but then would you be completely satisfied with yourself? No, most likely not. Your post is simply ridiculous and deserves no further response.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Apr 29, 2005 -> 06:08 AM) If you are going to use the thought process of thinking that all those players are projects, then hell, Alex Smith is a project, Ronnie Brown is a project, Braylon Edwards is a project, because you do not know if they will pan out and play well. Apparently your definition of project and mine are different. When I think of a project player, I think of a very talented player who has the tools to be a first round pick and can be an elite player in the league(Mark Bradley, Matt Jones, Chris Henry, Adrian McPherson, Frank Gore...that type), but something is holding him back - be it past injuries, attitude problems, or just him having raw talent - and he will have to be worked in slowly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not all of them, but the majority are projects. Alex Smith is without a doubt a project. There is absolutely no doubt about that. He is very raw as a QB. Ronnie Brown is not. Braylon Edwards is not. Cedric Benson is not. Mark Bradley, Matt Jones, Chris Henry, Adrian McPherson all are. Frank Gore? OK, some see the upside in him. I don't see it. He will be average at best, but ok, he is a project I guess. Do you think Mike Vick was a project? I think so. Was LaDanian Tomlinson a project. I don't think so. It is funny how some are upset at the Bears taking a "project" player in the second round when we could have had someone else that would not have been a "project" player, but the same people want a project in Mike Williams over a more polished complete player in RB Cedric Benson. If you want to argue that Mike Williams is not a project then I really don't understand. Here is a guy who missed a whole year of football. He never showed he could seperate from DBs and never ran routes well. All he could do is run slow and out muscle and jump college DBs. He is a project. Then we would have had a first round project instead of a early 2nd round project. Then what would we have done in the early 2nd? Draft a RB that we would also have to try and develop? Kind of a strange thought process some people have. One more thing I would like to add. We only had 2 picks in the first 3 rounds. I believe that this influenced the Bears 2nd round pick. They needed to take someone that they liked, at a position they needed, and that could bring a huge reward. IMO it was a risk that they had to take at that time.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Apr 29, 2005 -> 03:39 AM) I'm not sure why they would have him be the primary kick and punt returner. Azumah is one of the best kickoff returners in the league, and R.W. has been pretty effective on punt returns. More likely he'll be a gunner on the punt team and maybe the other kickoff returner. Not exactly the same thing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can speculate on that all you want. I just know Angelo stated that he was going to be doing some kick off and punt returning. I like Azumah myself and doubt very highly that he replace him. I can see him replacing RW however. He is ok, but we could get better in that area. I know that a gunner on the punt return team and the "other" kickoff returner are not the same things and that is not what I took out of the Angelo conversation. Again, you can speculate on what he meant all you want.