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I'm not a big Gavin Floyd fan but I think he's the type of guy that needs a change of scenery and I'll take Gio over any of the prospects you all talked about aside from Danks/Hurley/Pelfrey so I really am not that dissapointed. Especially because i think we will see Floyd and someone moved for Baldelli.

Not a bad move by either club. Mariners need starting pitching and while Soriano is real talented, Ramirez (when healthy) is a pretty damn solid lefty (although he walks a lot of guys) who should pitch really really well in safeco. The Braves wanted to get rid of one of there injury prone starters and did exactly that by getting a very talented, yet injury prone reliever in Soriano.

QUOTE(TheOcho @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 02:06 PM) So would you rather have him or Ramirez? No doubt...Manny, but we don't have to give up anything to get Bonds (well I guess some of you all assume we'd be giving up our souls to sign Bonds). But if we got Manny I'd be the first person to own his jersey (considering he may be my favorite non White Sox).

QUOTE(knightni @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 12:46 PM) Freudian slip? We all know Frank was no roider but the Sox have had at least one former roider and I'm sure more over the years.

I think Hawk deserves to be in the hall. He's a homer and at times he annoys me but he has a vast knowledge of the game and he's far more educational to listen to than a lot of the current broadcasters (I hate admitting it but its true). For a long time the Sox had probably the best booth (in terms of baseball knowledge) in the game (Hawk and Whimpy both could flat out educate the fans about the game) and right now I think DJ is a sharp baseball guy although at times he does have some trouble expressing stuff since he doesn't have the greatest voice (even though I personally love DJ)

QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 11:59 AM) Forgiveness, it seems, is the better part of valor. I'm not familiar with the Vasquez situation, but I suppose life's about second chances. IIRC, Olivo was caught using at some point in our system, too? Anyway, I'm pretty sure Barry's used up his 9 strikes. Olivo was caught with a corked bat, but we have had a few guys busted for steroids in the minors. Far less than pretty much any organization, but we've still had guys caught and I'm sure there are still guys in our system that roid and haven't been caught (just like there are in every system). If your about done or know that your just a mediocre prospect and this is your career at some point they are going to say what the hell and give it a chance and hope they put themselves on the map and get a call up to the minors where they can make some legit dough or do good enough to where they can go play overseas and get paid pretty well.

QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 11:52 AM) I don't really care about the numbers. It's about integrity. I don't want any known roiders on my team. I want to win, but I don't want to stoop to the lowest common denominator to do so despite the fact that actual usage of PEDs is probably rampant. I'd like to think the Sox are above that sort of thinking. I hate to be the one to say it, but if lest say 20% of baseball is or has roided (and thats a small estimate based on the stuff some of the admitted roiders have said) it be wrong to just assume the White Sox don't have any guys that did or have juiced. Frankly all I can do is hope they don't but thats it and I'm not going to not trade for a guy just because his name was linked to steroid rumors (obviously in Bonds case his name is the main name but s***, I don't care, he produces at ridiculously amazing clips when healthy). And I'm not advocating him coming to the Sox (although I'd be giddy if we did get him at 1yr 10 mill) but I am saying any team that gets him will be one of the big winners of FA.

However, If you guys want I can try to find another option of board software that I may know of or something along those lines. I also want to thank Brian, Keith, Steve & Pauly for all there work over there!!!!!

One step closer to live on mars....yessss, my land purchase on ebay is looking more and more valuable

Neat article.

I don't think Piazza is that good of a player anymore. I still don't get why so many teams gush all over him. Than again this is coming from the one person in the world that doens't feel he's a hall of famer (mainly because I refuse to call him a catcher since he was so ungodly awful defensively).

Ya, if it weren't for the hackers I'd have left it up and let it grow cause there were some good posts there but the viruses and stuff just make it not worth it and I wasn't going to shell out a couple hundred bucks on getting new forum software. That said hopefully Hawks discussions sprout up here.

Cordero is a beast. God I'd hate to see him go to the BoSox (a team I hate).

The Angels should be all over Bonds and I think its just a matter of time before they or the Dodgers make a move (even though Coletti swears he won't). Bonds really is a no brainer and one of the few total bargains in this free agent crop.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 10:43 AM) Rotoworld is speculating that the Schmidt signing would allow LA to ship Brad Penny in a package to Boston for ManRam. Wow, that would make a lot of sense for Boston. They added offense than move Manny and with Penny and Matsueka they'd have a pretty damn formidable rotation. I have disagreed with the money going around, but Epstein would have made the BoSox a lot better.

You won't win selling off year in year out. The Marlins have gotten lucky but its nearly impossible to consistently do it. When you got talent like Burgos and you want to win you start doing what you can to negotiate long term deals early (like the Indians and other middle market clubs do).

Dodgers are going to be very good for a long time. Coletti is a top notch GM and Little is a good manager. Better yet they have hired tons of good baseball people throughout the other parts of the organization. The only problems are the McCourts but they seemed to be willing to take a back seat, although the wife is a total biatch.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 10:57 AM) Matz says hi. I meant in addition to that. They need to find a closer and could still use another pitcher. I wonder if Matt Clement will somehow show up this year.

I like Calder and I think he would help the squad out. Gives us a solid player who should get better that has the ability to score. TalkBhawks.com will be closing its doors.

The Hawks are definately playing better under Savard. I'm just glad they finally had the balls to dump that bum Yawney. Savy already got an extension too so he'll be here next season as well (I'm sure if things go well this year they'd consider giving him another 2 years).

Like I said in another thread, this is a good move for the Dodgers. Its a bit much money but if your going to spend a lot of money at least get a guy who when healthy is one of the best pitchers in the NL. Plus I'd like to think he's 5.33 million a year better than Maddux.

Its a lot of money but at least your overpaying for a guy that when healthy is a cy young award type pitcher. Plus its only a 3 year deal so even if he stinks you'd be able to move him to somoene willing to take a chance on him figuring things out. Dodgers are going to be pretty damn good, especially if they can move a couple prospects (and they got loads of them) for a bat like Manny.

I like this move from the Mets perspective. Burgos is a killer talent. I'd have liked it if the Sox got him.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:41 AM) Garcia for Rollins, Rowand and Turnbow won't happen. Won't happen if we throw Anderson or whomever in there as well. I don't see any reason why the Phillies would trade Rollins and why we would need another guy who throws 95+. By all means I'm not saying it will, but thats the only way (if I were GM) I'd be cutting a deal with the Phils. Just like there is no way Hirsch is as good of a prospect as a lot of people on here seem to think.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2006 -> 09:35 AM) uh yeah. Another power pitcher, a lead off hitter and a 4th OF'er Rollins Guchi Dye Thome Konerko AJP Crede Rowand Pods (sweeney or Fields may play a bit here as well) Rotation: Buehrle Count Garland Vaz Bmac Pen: Jenks Thornton MacDougall Turnbow Aardsma Logan Am I forgetting a reliever? Same bench as last year.