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QUOTE(SnB @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 12:44 PM) i still eat the flinstone's pushups.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 10:08 PM) I officially hate Fullerton. f*** Fullerton. They should be called the dirtbags, not LBSU, with the way they play. We don't have the best talent, but we win and just beat down our opponents On a sidenote, Gagnier was a freaking steal in the 10th round, imo (Tigers drafted him). We open up play against Miller though so thats gonna be one hell of a test.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 04:59 PM) Konerko's minor league accomplishments include: 1997 Baseball America Minor League Player of the Year 1997 Player of the Year (Triple-A - Baseball America) 1997 Triple-A All-Star Team (Baseball America) 1997 Most Valuable Player (Pacific Coast League - AAA) 1997 Pacific Coast All-Star Team (AAA) (Third baseman) 1996 Double-A All-Star Team (Baseball America) 1996 Texas League All-Star Team (AA) 1994 Northwest League All-Star Team (A) (Designated hitter) So yes you were correct, he was absolutely sick in '97. And in 98 he came up early for the Dodgers when Karro's was injured, mashed the ball in spring training but than struggled out of the gate and Tommy Lasorda (Than GM) gave up on him way too quickly in the horrible Jeff Shaw deal (made like a day before the all star game as Shaw was supposed to pitch for the Reds in the ASG, but instead went with the Dodgers). We than got him for Mike Cameron and my favorite player (I was a huge fan when he was with the Dodgers) made it over to the Sox. I also think he played some 3B in the minors and who could forget the few games he saw at 3rd when Manuel was our manager.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 01:02 PM) Argentina looking really REALLY good. Should be 3-0 but 2-0 ARG at the half. Drogba scores in the 82nd minute to make it 2-1 but CIV just couldnt put it together. Boy, a draw in this match would have been awesome for SCG. Ivory Coast should have had a penalty kick around the 70 minute mark.

Just throwing something out there, but if we dealt for Carl Crawford I really think it could mean the end for Scott Podsednik (at least after this year). We could use Crawford at the top of the order and get rid of our hideous defensive left fielder and replace him with someone like Josh Fields, Ryan Sweeney or move Crawford back to left (if we still held onto Anderson).

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 02:26 PM) Konerko and Pierzynski were HS catchers drafted in '94 in the 1st and 3rd rounds, respectively. Plus I think Konerko was a minor league player of the year (not 100% on that, but I think he was).

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 03:30 PM) The Sox now have had 6 of their draft picks from the '02 draft make the major leagues. That's 50% more than any other team in baseball. We've been very sucessful in the draft as of late despite the lack of success of our 1st round picks (hopefully Fields and Anderson can change that, as well as Broadway and McCulloch). Plus when our guys haven't produced we've still been able to deal our picks for major league help and that is what it appears our organization prefers (keeping a few select guys while moving the rest of them for current help). Its also why I think we tend to favor collegiate players (especially early on) because they are more likely to have some early success and thus have solid trade value.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 5, 2006 -> 09:17 PM) As soon as Gage finishes his version of a skin, I'll work on mine. So I've got nothing to worry about.

One thing I'd like to point out on Buehrle. He was a DFE we took and we gave him top 5 round money. Had he re-entered the draft (and not signed with the Sox) he probably goes in the 1st 5 rounds.

The guy is a hitting machine. We are working on setting up an interview with him once his season ends. I should add, I think that game is recorded, but not 100% on that cause I thought the Championships were overwith.

QUOTE(AbeFroman @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 10:23 AM) Matt Enuco had been expected to sign Thursday or Friday... No confirmation yet though Nice, you know him by chance or was this reported somewhere?

Goign to start updating this thread on draft picks that have signed: I know we've came to terms with our 26th round pick David Wasylak who was a closer at Lubbock Christian. I'm sure we've came to terms with more guys and I'll work on getting that updated quickly.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 10:02 AM) Vazquez stuff is filthy, but I think he's odd in that he seems to pitch best with hitters in position, and he seems as if he likes to live on the edge and pitch with the attitude of a brinksman. I hear what you're saying, re: pitch count, but he was only slightly over a hundred, and I think it would've been within reason to keep him in against Hafner. Wasn't he at 111? And considering he had a few jams, he seems to throw a lot of "high stress" pitches. I say better safe than sorry, plus Cotts is very good against both LHP and RHP...Haffner just beat him.

South Carolina is absolutely lighting up Georgia 12-1 in the 7th. Georgia had a few golden opportunities to get back in the game but got 1 run after having the bases juiced with 1 out in both the 2nd and 3rd innings. South Carolina hit 5 consecutive HR's off Georgia in the 2nd inning (all of them were major bombs). This would be an upset.

I will say one thing, if Aaron is really on the block, I have absolutely no doubt that Kenny would go out and try to get him. Kenny knows CF is a potential hole and he knows that Aaron would not only fit in the clubhouse, but he'd immediately fit in the field (his defense would work) and he would give a little offense as opposed to BA. However, I don't think Aaron is on the block just yet. But it seems like Philly papers think the Phils are already out of the race, so maybe the Phils are stupid and ready to make a knee jerk move.

QUOTE(NYSox35 @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 06:51 AM) I have been saying all along that the Indians bother me more than Detroit. My friends out here in NY think I'm insane...but here are a few reasons why: 1. Look at our record vs. Cleveland comapred with detroit 2. Cleveland hasn't gotten hot like last year, whereas Detroit already has had a hot run (doesn't mean they can't have more). 3. This is the big one for me... Det vs. AL's elite... 1-3 vs. NYY (This would've been 0-4 in all likelihood if Mo Rivera wasn't hurt (Farns blew a game). 1-2 vs. Bos 0-5 vs. White Sox (to date). Thoughts? Cleveland was the most over-rated team in baseball entering the year (I said it than and I'll say it again now) while the Tigers were one of the most under-rated teams. Are the Tigers this good, NO, are the Indians as bad as there record indicates (Which isn't horrid by all means) probably not, but they really aren't much more than a .500. But no one is going to tell me the Indians are a good team. They have a mediocre rotation and a mediocre bullpen with an over-rated offense. The offense is good, but I have yet to see that offense play consistent over a full season (although they are ranked #2 right now). So lets see, the offense is playing great, the pitching is basically what it should be (considering how much they downgraded there pen and rotation last off-season with the losses of Elarton and Millwood as well as Howry and the guy they gave up for Michaels). Oh and did I mention they are a pathetic ass defensive team and are a horrid team on the base paths (every game I watch of the Tribe all I hear the announcers do is whine about how often they get thrown out making stupid baserunning plays. This tribe team isn't much more than an 85 win team (which isn't bad, nor is it good enough to win the division or the wild card). As far as the Tigers are concerned, they have a solid offense (there offense is as good as the Tribes) while there pitching staff is better (however they are counting on younger pitchers as well as guys like Maroth and Robertson who are pitching a bit over there heads; obviously Maroth is on the DL). The Tigers pen is also mediocre, but has managed to do its job up until last night.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 8, 2006 -> 04:58 PM) And a freakishly large pic of Manos

I backed Garland....now Jon, go make me and TRU and Murcie proud and start kicking ass again (1 game at a time).

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 09:33 AM) Or you let Javier Vazquez, who owned him last night, face him, instead of playing by the matchup. Oh, forgive me, I'm second guessing! I can't second guess, but if we lose one game by protecting Vazquez from throwing a ridiculous amount of pitches it doesn't bother me. However, in general Vazquez is a freaking machine against LHP for some reason.

QUOTE(shoota @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 09:37 AM) Link please. I can see Iguchi near the top of the league in productive outs, but not Uribe. The argument that the Sox are a defensive team first is poor. If Cintron's offense helps the team more than Uribe's defense, Cintron should be the starter. Of course that's hard to compare, but became quite easy to evaluate over the past week. You say Uribe shouldn't be unseated because of Cintron's few points in batting average but do not mention Cintron's two game-winning hits in the past week. My opinion of Uribe is not just based on numbers. His batting approach is frustrating as s***. He doesn't work a count, draw walks or have a plan at the plate. He's still trying to "get off the island." Last season Uribe was very good at getting the sac fly and making productive outs. Obviously this year that hasn't been the case as he's been flailing so far out in front of every stinking pitch thrown to him. His approach at the plate is worse than Anderson's and that says something. At least Anderson has the excuse of being a rookie. Uribe really needs to get that leg tap/kick back because it was the timing mechanism that helped him stay back on the ball. We need Juan to get things figured out because even when he's a mediocre hitter (which he's not donig right now), he's one of the premier defensive ss's in the league (although lately it seems his mind has been on his funk). We don't have anything else that can be an everyday starting SS (Cintron isn't good enough defensively to play everyday, imo, at least not on a world series caliber team).

QUOTE(henry wiggins @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 07:30 AM) I agree with you. I just read the morning papers, the news that Anderson is the regular center fielder was mentioned but not as prominently as I would have liked, given that Ozzie's little "he's our guy, now shut up" speech opened his post-game press conference last night. Freaking news media -- they roast BA on a spit for weeks on end, to fill up the space they can't fill with intelligent analysis, and then when the club says "Okay, nothing to see here, move along" they just shrug. When I heard Ozzie say it last night, I thought that this is huge for Anderson. This takes a LOT of the pressure off him -- not the pressure of the batting slump, which of course he does have still, but the pressure of "is he a minor-leaguer playing above his level." For Ozzie and KW to say "he's a major leaguer and he's the starting CF'er on our world championship club" seems enormous. I am also struck by Anderson's class when dealing with the media. He is still making jokes about stuff that has to have gotten beyond annoying for him. Good style for the kid. One of the most impressive things about BA is how he's been able to ignore his offensive struggles and still go out and play amazing defense. I don't think you'd find 1 in 100 youngsters that would be able to go out and play the type of defense he has (with consistency too) considering all of his offensive struggles. He's managed to be a complete veteran (hell a lot of vets couldn't do that) when it comes to forgetting about the bat once he's on defense. Also, I do think having Ozzie go out and say he's my guy will alleviate the pressure. BA had to have been feeling more pressure when he was getting thrown out there every once in a while with Mack there and obviously he was hearing it from everyone (not that he should listen). With Ozzie giving his endorsement, he'll be able to ignore the naysayers (knowing that his mgr still has full confidence in him) and keep doing the same defensively and hopefully make some strides at the plate. QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 07:31 AM) I will say this again and again with one of the worst leftfielders in baseball Brian Anderson needs to be in centerfield every day. His hitting does not cost us, that is why the other guys in the lineup are making about 4 times more than he is. Seriously, Podsednik is freaking terrible. If he can't hit and steal bases, he is absolutely worthless and its leading me to believe we may just see Josh Fields out there in a year or two with us picking up a new shortstop somewhere in between that can become our leadoff hitter (if Juan continues to stink this year).

QUOTE(Beastly @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 07:26 AM) I went to the game last night and I usually don't pay all that much attention to Anderson. But last night, I just saw a sign of Rowand and that Anderson (contrary to my previous belief) actually gives a s***. I think that if he can keep battling and working with Walker then all the kinks would be worked out and he shouldn't go to AAA. Question; what pitch does he keep trying to hit that he can't? What does he have trouble with location wise? Just curious so I can watch for it. Down and away.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 11:29 PM) That was typical Mizzou baseball before the last few weeks of the season. Offense blows and can't execute RISP. Jamieson left his starter in too long and the bullpen blows. Yeah, that's about right. f***ing hell. There is no way Mizzou should have lost that game. It should have been 4-0 early on without Mizzou adding any hits. Scherzer leaves during the 7th before the 2nd run scores and Wendte comes in (Mizzou's best reliever, Parker is garbage) and locks it down maybe letting in the 2nd run at most. Your manager is freaking terrible or at least was tonight. Leaving in Scherzer when he was openly pissed off about being out there (it looked like they had to pretty much convince him to throw more pitches) to face a lefty (when you guys had a left in the pen) and than Scherzer gives up another hit, they pull him (he quickly walks off the mound) and they bring in the lefty to face a righty and the flood gates were opened. We could have scored a few more runs. In all defense to one of your guys innings (where you stranded a bunch of runners) Roemer gave up two dink hits and than we had an error, of course most of your guys hits were frozen ropes and I have no idea how he was able to pitch around them (early on in the game). Your relievers looked like garbage (that said you may not have had your best guys in and I think you alluded to that) and Scherzer right now appears to be a 5-6 inning pitcher (although he's dominate during that time). That said you guys have Culp going tomorrow and he should give you at least a shot at sending this game to Sunday . We'll have Gagnier on the bump.

QUOTE(Wolverine31 @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 08:51 PM) Well the Tigers were leading the Jays 5-2 with 1 out in the 8th and then Fernando Rodney and Todd Jones allowed 8 consecutive batters to reach for a final score of Jays 10, Tigers 5. This had to be the worst loss of the season; a complete bullpen implosion. I wonder if Leyland will finally take Todd Jones out of the closers role now. I don't know how much more it will take; he's cost us 4 games this season, his ERA is 7.29, batters are hitting almost .400 off of him, he can't strike anyone out. He's not even a major league pitcher let alone a closer. What a joke. This could be a really rough loss. I've long said the thing that seperates the Tigers from the Sox (besides a more veteran filled rotation) is the back of the pen where the Sox throw out Jenks and the Tigers throw out old man Jones. QUOTE(tigerfan @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 11:01 PM) That whole inning was a joke. One question too for you Wolverine. You want Rodney as a closer now? I sure don't. Why not Zumaya? Does Leyland not have faith in putting the youngster out as a closer. All he's got to do is look at what the defending world champs did with a rookie closer. Zumaya has the stuff and potential, so why not run him out there (unless he is thinking about moving Zumaya into the rotation in place of Maroth; assuming Colon or whoever replaces him continues to struggle).

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 10:10 PM) I watched pretty much that whole game, and he was throwing in the mid-90's the first inning or two. He had some control problems, and it looked like his velocity dropped after that. Mid 90's, maybe your gun was different but it got as high as 92 all game. However, it should be noted that Bama's pitcher was as high as 85 and he throws in the upper 80's to low 90's so my guess is the gun was off a bit. His offspeed stuff was great though. Fullerton defeats Scherzer and Mizzu in game 1. Scherzer was absolutely amazing for the 1st 5 innings (took a perfect game into there). Was up 0-2 1-2 all game, but eventually he wore down and at one point he was looking to his coach after every pitch to get out. The Titans jumped on him, got some runs and than really teed off on the Tigers pen. Sad thing was Scherzer could have ran away with this game as the Tigers had about 9 hits in the first 3-4 innings off Roemer (who was really bad early on and than like most great pitchers do when a team fails to take advantage, he shut em down the rest of the way). But boy oh boy was I impressed with Max. Problem is I think he's going to have some injury issues in his career. You can tell he's still hurt and right now he isn't in the shape to go deep into games (or so it would appear).