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One quick thing I want to say is this. How much better are the Sox with AJ Burnett? AJ Burnett basically slides in and replaces Contreras in the rotation. Is it an upgrade, some would say no, some would say yes...a major one...not likely. Contreras slides into the pen. Who knows if the Sox get another lefty. So is Contreras (the reliever) make the pen stronger than one with Marte? I don't think so, simply because we don't know. Honestly as much of a Burnett fan as I am, I'm starting to wonder just how much sense this deal makes. If the club gets Lowell, I can see it making a bit more sense. Lowell is a much better player than he's showed this year and could definately help out the club (plus a great insurance option if something happens to Joltin Joe). Now this deal does do one thing...if Duque goes down the Sox can just pencil in Contreras giving them very good depth in the rotation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now lets look at something else. Say the Sox trade Burnett for Wagner. The rotation stays the same (no loss here, we have a good rotation, especially if Duque pitches like he did last night). Wagner replaces Marte (he's much better than Marte). So the rotation stays the same but the pen gets much much stronger and the Sox also have great depth in case Hermy's back stiffens up and puts him on the DL (that or Hermy simply slides into the 8th inning role, meaning Politte to the 7th) and in a sense you could make it a 6 inning game. Basically put...I'd rather make this deal with the idea of getting Wagner than the other way around.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 08:43 AM) After last night, thats all I could say. GET ANOTHER BAT. KW, overpay, do what you have to do, the 3-4-5 can be shut down, and has been time and time again. Something needs to be done. For those wanting a bat. My question is who gets replaced in the lineup and who do you all want?

Hasn't Wagner said he may retire at the end of the season?

Cliff Floyd has always been a guy that Kenny has liked.

QUOTE(VAfan @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 09:30 AM) When Frank says he's at a 10 on the pain meter for his ankle, and that it is affecting his play, I think we may not see Frank again this season. And if he can't prove he is healthy against live pitching again this year, I fear the Sox may just buy out his contract and let him go, notwithstanding what KW said just a few weeks ago. I'd be interested to know the rules about adding him to the playoff roster is he's not reactivated until sometime in September. Does anyone know? I assume because he's an injury-casualty that he could be added at any time. Practically speaking then, we only really need him to come back in mid-September for him to get his form back. But I don't expect to see him before that. We don't need a Frank Thomas at 70%. Better to rest and try to get back to 90%. In the meantime, I hope Ozzie moves Rowand up in the order. He looks like he might resume his torrid hitting from last year and help carry the team. And I'd like to see a lot of Ross Gload if he can hit at all like he did last year. We could use someone that can crack the .300 hitting barrier and draw walks. If Frank misses the rest of the year (I don't know the extent of his injury but I'm assuming its more minor than anything) than my belief is that you've already seen his final game in a White Sox uniform. There is absolutely no reason why the Sox should agree to that option. The best thing they can do is buy that contract out. If they want him, they can renegotiate and sign him to a different deal (Personally I wouldn't). If I were GM Frank would of been dealt two years ago at the deadline.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 08:29 AM) If this trade goes down, I think we'll see another one. Clearly there is a need for another bat. To me there is only one spot the other bat can go and thats shortstop. You could make a case for 2nd as well cause Guchi is in a major major funk. But Omar Vizquel would look amazing. Problem is I don't think the Giants are interested in dealing him.

In regards to the move to the pen. I'd have to think the Sox are more comfortable moving Contreras to the pen (since they once thought he would make a very good closer) as opposed to Duque. Thats not to say that Contreras wouldn't eventually rejoin the rotation after Duque got hurt again. However, I got to say, Duque pitched very well last night and in his last two starts he's shown better stuff than he has all year.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 07:45 AM) Not for $7,500,000 or even half of that, and then of course he's under contract for another season. If anything, this lineup needs a good lefty hitter, Lowell doesn't give you that. Whose to say Lowell doesn't replace Paulie in the off-season. The Sox still need a left handed hitter inserted somewhere in the lineup, but that could come with whoever replaces Frank. I highly doubt the Sox add Lowell though. However, I'll be very excited if Marte is the only major leaguer dealt in the deal. I don't care if they give up Bmac and another good prospect at that point (unless that prospect was named Chris Young). Also, I'd love to see AJ locked to a deal similar to Frederico.

Normally, boxers....if its really hot...I'm free ballin it.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) Speaking about Sac Flies, I read something this morning about Adam Dunn being one of the worst situational hitters in baseball. He went 2 years without a sac fly. That just blew my mind. Ya, he got it earlier this year. He's ridiculously over-rated in my book.

ROFL What an Idiot...

Remember, the Sox also could than move Duque or Contreras to the pen which I guess the Sox seem to think would be a goove moe. To me this trade either means one of Jose/Duque would be going for a reliever (I'd prefer dealing Duque myself) or the Sox slide one of them to the pen and dangle Viz and a prospect for a lefty reliever. One of Duque/Contreras moves to the pen to replace Viz while Viz and a good prospect or two get the Sox a lefty reliever.

HILL-AR-IOUS

Good thing I read this first, lol. Juts checked out the blog...oh my god Mark, that s*** had me rolling.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 08:42 AM) Ken Rosenthal of the Sporting News said Florida is going to pull the takining Lowell requirement and that the Marlins want Marte and BMac for Burnett. I'd do Marte and Bmac for Burnett. Especially if they could relock him.

Very sweet Dan

Ricky Martin and William Hung

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 08:52 PM) There's a couple of guys over at BTF who agree with you. In fact, that's why I brought Nanita's name up, 'cause one of the posters (when talking about our prospects) immediately brought up Nanita, Schnurstein, and Valido. I didn't think much of it, but wanted to see how the former two were doing, and was pleasantly surprised. I've kind of written off Nanita due to his age and the big time flops he had after his fast start a couple years back. He's not a bad athlete though, but things are against him as opposed to Micah and Valido. Frankly I just love Micah's swing. He gets good contact and is just beginning to harness his power and I think he'll turn into a 20 to 25 HR guy (at most 30), but I also see him hitting tons of doubles.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 08:37 PM) I have to cover the 4H beef show for the newspaper tomorrow. Today was sthe swine show. Those pigs poop EVERYWHERE. I thought you were done? You better get some free swine.

Sounds like Gload is on his way up. Don't have time to shoot around a bunch of emails to confirm anything (damn internship keeps me busy during the day and way too lazy at night). If its long-term, Rogo could get promoted up to Charlotte in the coming days (this part is purely speculation on me). It does sound like the move has been made though (like I said, couldn't verify this like I'd like to).

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 08:31 PM) Could you imagine how many people won't be at the Cell next season if this team chokes, doesn't make the playoffs, and KW sits on his hands? If a DL is out there that makes sense, Kenny is going to make it. At the same time I don't want him making a deal just to say he made a deal. It better make some sense cause if you go out and force yourself into something it could be even worse.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 08:31 PM) Carlos Quentin maybe? but he's an OF prospect. Either way they desperately need some good young pitching and we've got that. Quentin is it. But ya, they aren't going to deal Tracy because of Tony Clark. Now to make room for Jackson...there is a shot at that. Personally though, I think theyd' be fools. Tracy is already a good hitter and has a chance to be a very good one.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 08:27 PM) Tony Clark is not part of their future. If you get Tracy, you'd be giving up some top pitching prospects (McCarthy or Gio). DBacks are LOADED with offensive prospects....they need young pitching. I think he meant to say Connor Jackson and the kid they drafted from Stanford 2 years back (he had surgery right after the college playoffs). For whatever reason I can't think of his name, but it will come to me.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 08:27 PM) Coupled with the fact he can play 1B, 3B and any OF position, we could even trade for him if we do re-sign Konerko and not tender someone like Crede a contract (which probably won't happen). 3B is Tracy's original position anyways. Put it this way...I'd trade Brian Anderson and another very good prospect for him (say a Sean Tracey). Than again I don't think they need anymore OF's.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 21, 2005 -> 08:25 PM) Coughfranksnotgoingonthedlcough Ozzie didn't say this?