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Does anyone think we should have one general Sox thread as well...just in case there are some sort of potential rumor that may not fit with a player. For example the fact that numerous teams are scouting Contreras? Or should we just have Contreras potentially on the block as a thread?

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 11:17 AM) sounds good. you could always keep this sub-forum year-round instead of making a gigantic trade thread. ( i like it, but i know some don't.) This would be away of pleasing both parties My thoughts are during the off-season team discussion gets less and at those parts of the year its almost better for all rumors to be in the main forum (however, if this works out well and everyone prefers to keep the forum year round, I'm definately open to it).

The Chicago White Sox have been linked to Jason Schmidt for a few weeks as well as Omar Vizquel. A recent article acted as if talks on the Schmidt front have been quiet, but a San Francisco beat reporter (via radio) suggested that Takatsu could be part of a larger trade package with the Giants for Schmidt. Note: I'm sure lots of Omar Vizquel news will come up with the Giants, specifically because of the Sox fondness of him as well as the fact that the Sox and Giants have been talking.

Here's my idea...let me see if you guys like it. One big trade rumor thread for all non white sox rumors. Then for every Sox rumor...I'll make a post with that players name and all news related to that deal could go in that thread? This sound like a cool idea?

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 11:15 AM) He has lost a couple steps ever since his injury. He use to be above average speed wise... now he is lucky to be average His lack of speed has been one of his problems in the field but he has shown he is a pretty good base runner overall. The nice thing is he has very long strides, kind of Vladdy like in a sense. Vladdy isn't exactly fast, but his long ass legs lead him to getting around the bases so stinking quick. Just a random rant, but overall I agree with your assesment and ya, he's really a good baserunner (especially when it comes to going 1st and 3rd).

The Inside Beat This is the new trade related forum for Soxtalk.com This way there can be seperate discussions for everyone interested in regards to White Sox and non White Sox related trade rumors. People can also propose things as well, but if they create a new topic for that, please put Non-Rumor in the topic description so people will understand. Hopefully everyone likes this. Once deals become official or very close to official, we'll move them into the main forum. If anyone has any feedback please post it here, were always open to other things, but I do think with all the rumors that will come up, this will be a great way to keep them all together. Than after the non-waiver deadline the forum will be closed until next year

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 10:05 AM) Edwin Jackson has really dropped in his prospect status. He's walked 44 in just over 80 IP, and has only K'ed 52 (between Jacksonville and Las Vegas). Is he hurt? 'Cause, those are not very impressive numbers at all... And, I should say, that until Edwin regains his 'stuff' and his control, I'd rather have Shingo -- for our bullpen use or otherwise. Wow -- he and Greg Miller seemed to have had a rought year or so. The Dodgers are not very pleased with either and both could be had for a little less. In Miller's case health may be an issue but everything I've heard Jackson is or at least was healthy. I know he had some minor injury early in the year but he's been struggling for a long time in AAA. Still, he could be one of those guys that could frankly use a change of scenery. The Dodgers could also use a closer and Shingo would be a nice fit in the LA area. And for those that thing LA has given up your nuts. LA is due to get a bunch of their bats back and has the best pitching in the division (along with the Padres). There is absolutely no reason for them to give up. If they are within 5 or 6 at the deadline, they will be buyers, mark my words. Plus they get the likes of Milton Bradley, Jose Valentin, and JD Drew back. Thats a pretty major difference, imo.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 10:00 AM) is it possible this move is just to free up a roster spot for duque? Technically speaking from what I've heard thats what it appears to be as of now. I'm sure they have other things in mind as well, but the Sox are very very happy with Bobby Jenks and from what I hear there are at least some in the org that want him up from here on out. They feel he'll have some down outings, but as a whole he'll be good more often than bad. However, it could also be a pre-cursor, but at the very least I'm sure this is a move that will be done by Monday to open up the spot for Duque.

Well that one was just with the full count. Although I'm assuming he stole something today as well (just got the game on around the 5th inning). However, Jermaine has decent speed and when Victor is behind the plate him, Rowand, Guchi, and Pods should all be able to run quite a bit.

Going to move this to the trade thread.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 08:58 AM) In other news, who wants to predict whether it will rain on November 17, 2007? According to my weather maps and Ben Franklin there is about a 40% chance of light percipation.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 08:02 AM) If we lose him to Iowa, i'm gonna cry And I'll jump for joy. I still remember how close Iowa got to beating you guys last year (after I predicted a win). My god I'd of been in tears if they won. Of course Alford had to save his job. I just hope he's figured things out now cause I don't stand for mediocrity and the Hawkeyes have some decent pieces returning and should be able to at least compete for a middle tier spot in the big 10 (which would get em in the tourney).

I do realize its a difference, but he was one of the better relievers last season in all of baseball. And IIRC he finished the year strong as well. No one else is Leo, but I'd like to think he's gotten things straightened out. Personally though, I'm like some who aren't exactly for this deal, but I guess it makes sense, especially if the Sox plan on keeping Jenks or whoever they get at the major league level. Still, I wouldn't be expecting a top prospect or anything like that, rather it will be a AAA prospect.

I like Crede...see sig/avatar

Cruz would be a really nice option, of course I tend to think despite his recent struggles with the A's that he has more value than Shingo. However, this deal would make some sense. 1st off Cruz has proven himself to be a pretty good middle-reliever, despite his struggles this year. He also seems to have gotten himself back in gear down in the minors. Secondly, if the Sox want to deal Cruz I think you'd have at least some teams quite interested because he has a great arm and has had minor league sucess. Third, this gives the Sox great depth (almost like the Day move) if they aren't able to pull the big time deal and El Duque goes down (I dont' think the Sox want to call up Bmac the rest of the year...they want him to get comfortable down in AAA).

Another dandy game.

Of course I totally agree with you though. This guy deserves worse then prison.

s*** I just watched it in the dark and I'm gonna have f***ing nightmares. Trippy stuff.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 12:22 AM) That guy doesn't deserve jail he deserves to get his ass beaten, badly. What do you think will happen to him in prison???

This thread rocks.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2005 -> 10:41 AM) So do we get CNN updates like the girl in Texas who fell down the well? Somebody get a camera crew over to Wino's! Oh god, finally looked through this whole thread and damn it has some funny stuff in it.

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QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Jul 15, 2005 -> 04:45 PM) Here's a thought, how about Chad Tracy of of D'backs? He plays 1B and 3B. He's been playing at 1B this year due to the Glaus signing but had been a 3B. He's definitely not the defensive wiz Crede is at 3B which would be my only hesitation. He's in his second year making near league minimum. Last year he hit .285, and this year he's been over .300 for almost the entirety of the season. He doesn't have too much pop (although 10 homers so far isn't bad). He's a lefty (throws right), something the Sox could definitely use, and he's not going to kill rallies. Plus he's only 25 years old with a history of hitting for a high average in the minors. So why would the D'backs even consider trading him? Well he's obviously of no use at 3B since Glaus is there and will be there for several years. They have Tony Clark playing 1B as well who's having one of his better years so far this year (hitting .324 w/ 13 homers in limited playing time). They're also looking to bring up their prize prospect Conor Jackson. Jackson is POOR defensively and really can ONLY play 1B, so there's a logjam there. Tracy could move to the OF, but with Shawn Green, Gonzo, and Jose Cruz out there, I can't see regular playing time for him out there either. The D'backs obviously still need bullpen help. I think we could get Tracy straight up for ONE relief pitcher, either one on the major league roster or a high level relief prospect... definitely not more than two... maybe we could throw in Borchard and get some value for him if necessary. Plus side: can replace Crede if he goes down at 3rd, can backup Konerko at 1st, hits for a high average, bats lefty, young, cheap, very good against righties Negatives: poor (but improving?) defense, doesn't hit lefties well Only problem is I just don't see the Dbacks dealing Tracy, unless they are getting a very good young infielder in return. Of course I'm a huge huge Tracy fan. He's gonna be a pretty good player for a long time. Another guy thats gonna be really good, if not great, is Sizemore. Man does he have a sweet swing.