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QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 06:10 PM) Yeah, Heads told me what the announcement was. Everyone here will be thrilled when they hear who we lined up. It's actually the second year in a row we've talked to him, so there's your only hint. Me, you, Dan and whoever should get on IM tomorrow and start divying up the player bios. That sounds cool to me. I'm gonna try and write stuff up as if it were the site. I'm even thinking of loading the entire site onto the Soxtalk server and just have a temp FS up. Don't know if I'll get around to that tonight or not though. But I'll be on aim throughout the draft so we can get stuff together and I'm sure Danno will be on as well

If its anything other than his Hammy, then its s***. Its not that hard to run something out. Another 1-2-3 inning after a deep flyout to center.

QUOTE(Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 06:03 PM) Hey Jason, get the damn server resolved to I can pimp FutureSox to Hawk and DJ via e-mail, sheesh. I'm so pissed right now. I've backordered the site in case it clears before stuff gets taken care of. I faxed all the proper documents about a week ago and still haven't heard anything back. Now I called and left a message today and shot two more emails to the people and am hoping somehow I can get a response. Once it gets back in my control...its a 24 hr turn around. I'm giddy to get the Wilder interview finished up (and won't do it until I get FS live) plus a hopeful interview with Shaffer after the draft is finished up. Oh and heads will have a nice announcement as well Hopefully its just a matter of a day or two (it sucks big time balls that it won't be up on draft day now...I'm freaking dying without the site). On a sidenote, I'm so freaking pumped for the draft Mike...its gonna be badass. I wish the Sox had more picks though (like last year).

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 05:19 PM) I totally forgot about Clement. An Iowa boy to boot. I'm swinging into his camp. I just spent 4 days in Iowa, how about the Sox draft me in the 1st round

That was Paulie's 1st of 4 hr's in the series. You heard it in the chat first, now here

No thanks.

QUOTE(dasox24 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 05:02 PM) I think that getting Broadway is a lot more realistic now. He's ranked at #16 on BA's Draft Tracker. His stock has been skyrocketing, and you know we're gonna seriously consider him considering Dave Wilder, himself, scouted his last game, where he pitched great. I think he's plan D, behind Clement, Bogu, and Carillo. One of those 4 guys will be on the board when the Sox pick.

QUOTE(JDsDirtySox @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 04:21 PM) Has anyone seen this kid pitch in person? I hear so much about him, and can't wait to see him in the bigs. When do you think he will get called up? I saw him pitch down in ST this year. Holy s*** his stuff is as advertised. Still had a bit to work on but if I were the Mariners I'd already have him up. The only reason I think he's down in the minors is because the Mariners don't want to be blamed for rushing him up and putting too big of expectations on him. Once they are out of the race he can come up and be eased in over half a season. The guy is a total phenom though and diehard Mariners fans are going to have high expectations. Lets just put it this way, stuff wise he's off the charts. His fastball is as explosive as it gets and he has a hell of a slider.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 02:28 PM) That's what I'm thinking, Jim. Carrillo seems like a pretty safe pick, high floor, but a low ceiling type of a guy. I'd certainly get more excited if they went with a more 'ballsy' (for lack of a better word) pick in Torra and Townsend (though Torra might be a reach), though 'ballsy' doesn't always mean smart. Re: Townsend, if his velocity isn't back in the mid-low 90s, don't take him. But I (and apparently Jim, too) have read somewhere that he's got it back up to where it was. I'm not all that concerned about the year layoff (maybe I should be?), though, so that probably sways my opinion to a more pro-Townsend. And, this may seem obvious, but I think the Sox are hoping that a guy like Zimmerman or Clement falls to #15 (and yes, Cerb, I realize he won't get there). If not, they'll go with Bog or Carrillo. If Towsend's velocity isn't back (and everything I've read said it isn't...thats based on BA, I don't know anything on the Townsend situation except what I read there) than there is absolutely no reason to draft him, imo. Now if Townsend is in fact throwing gas, that would be another story.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 11:20 AM) He posts here? Ya, from time to time there are a few minor leaguers that frequent the site and post on occassion

JR's statements seem pretty much dead accurate, imo.

Torra has plus stuff and kind of came out of nowhere this year. As the only legit pitcher on Umass team he's had to be a total workhorse (which is a big concern). Made some changes mechanically and its really paid off this year. Has good command and definately is a sleeper in the 1st round.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 11:08 AM) Can someone give me an approx. time of the Sox first pick? How long does a first rounder usually take? Probably 5-10 minutes after the draft starts. The draft flat out rolls. Its pretty much immediate.

Thats a bigger questionmark than Carillo whose already very round. If Carillo was 6-3, he'd be a top 10 pick, probably a top 5 pick. I think he's a huge value pick if he's available, but someone may snag him before he gets to the Sox.

Where does he mention his "pull ball" philosphy? I never saw anything where he says I want guys pulling the ball?

Hopefully there isn't an ASU-Arizona Super Regional

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 10:05 AM) They had that last year too. Did they? s*** I must be retarded. I was listening to the streaming radio version the whole time.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:29 AM) UH, arent the Angels in the midst of aquiring Mike Sweeney, they will have an extra bet laying around after that. Hell if I know. I've been computerless for about 4 days (finally got back to civilization last night). But as an Angel fan I'd be stoked if they got Sweeney. The guy is a machine and they definately have the chips. Your right they probably would have an extra bat off the bench, but they won't have any help at 3rd base where the Sox would need it.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) I'm not saying Crede his horrible. A crede-burroughs swap would be for two underachieving guys who may need a change of scenery to fulfill their potentials. SD needs righties who can hit for some pop. Nevin for 1b has a SLG of .438, their top RH bat. The sox would have to add more than Joe to get a guy like burroughs--a young LH bat who can hit for avg. and takes walks. Joe has potential--yet the sox need consistency more. .286/.368 playing everyday isn't underachieving, imo. He's not a run producer, but he hasn't really been asked to be one and is playing in an extreme pitchers park. That would look amazing right now. He's a good hitter, maybe not the prototypical 3rd baseman but he's a good hitter. I like good hitters and the Sox need more of them.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:19 AM) The key to any deals for the sox is getting guys who can add to this team. no doubt the sox want to upgrade at 3b and should be willing to overpay [within reason] to upgrade there. Everett might not get players who can add this year, as any team getting him would want him for a playoff run. So, the sox might have to trade other young players, prospects to fill the holes they really need to fill Thats why I think you work the 3 team angles when your dealing guys that competing teams would be interested in. Plus you mention yourself the Sox are in competition and will want everyday players back (ie major leaugers) and the Pads are in that same position. Thats why you almost have to get a 3rd team involved otherwise its hard to see a deal that would make sense from both perspectives (rarely do deals help two teams out in the short run). For example, suppose the Angels want to add a DH (its been one of there big holes, but they will be getting Vladdy back) then the Sox could move Everett over for a prospect or two (nothing necessarily amazing) which could than get moved (maybe in addition to a Sox prospect, depending on how much cash they are saving) to a team out of it with a quality reliever (maybe the Mariners for Everyday Eddie, but in that case you'd have to give up some quality guys and I don't know if the Sox are going to go with that high profile of a move in terms of relief).

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:09 AM) I was looking into brushing up my Spanish at CC course, but it was $400/course (for a resident), which I think is really crazy expensive. I don't feel like you are getting a lot of bang for your buck, no matter where you go to school. I have students here whose smallest class has been 150 students (insane), but they're still paying full tuition and all that. I think with the rising cost of education the US is really pricing out lower middle class and people with low SES. In this end this is only going to end up hurting this country. Higher education is too expensive, it sounds like Cali has a better system than NY or IL, but even that would be too much if you had two parents working minimum (or low paying jobs). Most of the time in those cases you qualify for a grant. However, at the same time, I find it hard to imagine (if you live at home) that you can't work and do what you can to raise enough funds to pay the 4000 a year. I realize thats hard and you may have to work more than some kids do, but my thinking is if you want to go to college you'll find a way. I know my dad worked 50 hr's a week and went to school on the side cause he wanted to go badly (was living on his own in Cali after getting out of the navy and away from his entire family). But your right 400 bucks is a lot more for one course. Heck, 5 courses at a JC and your paying the same as I do at a Cal State. I can only speak on California, but it does do an amazing job and if they stopped giving illegals free or in state tuition than it would even be more affordable. I was reading an article in my school paper and they give illegal aliens in state tuition and often times free tuition (the results said that like over 50%). Which is quite ridiculous. As far as class sizes go, my program I'm in kicks ass (they have the best accounting program in SoCal...all the big 4 recruit heavy out of it, along with USC - both rank relatively even) and I've never had an accounting class with more than 25 people. Largest business class, probably 40-45 and my largest class (maybe 100 students and that was for my GE in history). On the most part I'd say my average class size in my major is 20 students (I once had a class with just 6 students) and overally probably 30 (if you excluse the 3 history classes I took in lecture halls). Hell the more I hear stories, maybe California's educational system isn't as bad as I always thought My original point is that I think if people want to go to college they'll find a way. Luckily I don't have to worry too much. I live at home, work, and my dad is well off enough where he pays for my tuition (as long as I do good in school) and I pay for the books.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:02 AM) What is Burroughs defense like? [you're from the west coast right?] Weren't the Padres looking to deal Burroughs last yr as well? With all the lefties in their lineup, a righty like Crede with some pop wouldn't be all that crazy. Maybe a bullpen arm thrown in with Crede could get it done. With Loretta coming off the DL, and Geoff Blum earning his playing time, Burroughs could be the odd man out. Crede could see time at 3b as well. His ability to hit for avg, and get on base would look good for the sox. His SLG is non-existent. But the NL teams have to have some power guys from a spot like 3b if they don't have power at CF, 2b or SS. Burroughs...24 years old and has been long talked about as there shining star (they really hyped him and obviously he hasn't lived up to it) but he's hitting .286 with a .366 OBP. I don't think he's too bad of a 3rd baseman but he's probably not quite as good as Crede. He has all the tools though (good range, good arm). I just posted something similar in another thread, but only way the Pads do this is if they get what they want from a 3rd team cause they are one of the 3 best teams in baseball (record wise) and are going to want major league parts back and good ones at that. Crede, Tracey and someone else for Burrouhgs with those parts getting moved to a 3rd team who provides the bat or arm or whatever the Pads need.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 08:54 AM) solid points. The bat [for 3b or a platoon type guy who could see regular time] should be someone who can hit very well vs. RHP--preferably LH. Carl was supposed to provide LH power. Yet this year he's under .200 and almost [or all] of his HR's have come hitting vs. RHP. If Carl can't hit from the left side, [like he hasn't this yr] his value for the sox decreases dramatically. IF you go one step farther and Frank is looking fine and Gload has came back and is playing like he did last year than I think you have to move Everett. Gload last year was a better player than Everett this year (no doubt about that in MY mind). Why pay Everett to clog the bench (not that I don't think he's valuable, but he's highly overrated and the Sox have other areas of need). You deal Everett to a team looking for a bat (maybe a 3 way deal) and you find a way to get a quality reliever out of it. Whether the other team gives the prospects to a 3rd team involved or what not. Then you look towards 3rd base and this will be tough. The Pads would be nuts to deal Burroughs (he may not be the prototypical 3rd baseman, power wise, but he's still a good young player) and they aren't trading him unless they get help in other areas (on the major league roster). .286, .366 OBP in a pitchers park. He'll never hit ya 20 HR's, but maybe 15 at the cell and he's a heck of a hitter. Did I mention that he's just 24. Of course if there was a way to get Burroughs I'd get him. I'd give up quite a bit as well, but it would have to be a 3 team deal and I Don't know what the Pads would be looking for. Maybe the Pads want another hitter and you acquire Burroughs, they get a hitter, and that 3rd team gets Crede and Sean Tracey and Felix Diaz/Arnie Munoz. They get 3 guys with a shot to produce (and in the end, when you make deals for youngsters, I think you want guys near major league ready who will have a shot to pan out).

QUOTE(mreye @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 07:43 AM) I just read the first part about the California kid going to UNLV. Isn't school free for him at a state school in Cal? Or at least extremely discounted? Stay in state or quitcher b****in'! This is what I don't really get. I have gone to a 4 year school from the get go. Now its a commuter school (pretty much all of the Cal State schools are, the UC's are still semi heavy commutter schools) and my family isn't in financial trouble, but my tuition is about 1400 a semseter, books, parking everything else at most 600 bucks which would put you at 2000 a semester (costs and such) and than 4000 a year. I really don't see this as being much at all, in fact I think its probably the best bargain of my entire life. I don't know if most states are this way, but I think most places do a pretty good job of making college affordable. Now if you want to go to Stanford or somewhere else (private schools) obviously your going to pay a lot more and the student can decide whether its worth it (in Stanfords case...maybe so, in the case of USC...hell no, imo). If someone is in that type of bind, they always have the option of 2 years at a community college (absolutely nothing wrong with going this past cause you still can get into any school you want to if your grades are good enough). Its like 21 bucks a unit or something like that so you spend maybe 300 bucks a semester plus books. Highly affordable for 2 years than your final two years you can go for 2000 a semester.

I kind of worry about Freddy hanging a lot of pitches in Colorado. Hopefully the Sox can bang the mistakes they get from the Rocks and play some small ball. Go Get Em Sox