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May we be the underdogs in the division all year, up until the day the Sox clinch it

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2004 @ Apr 11, 2005 -> 07:21 PM) I said they "both" f***ed it up. But I expect more of Hinrich being the pg. I expect AD to be a good passer considering he's been in the league for how long now. He made an awful decision and through into triple coverage. I have no idea how that is anyones fault but Davis'. At the same time the Bulls didn't make shots in the end and just plane got out of rhythm. Davis made a mistake, but the game shouldn't of been that close at that point anyway. The Bulls backed off and didn't execute offensively after getting up 8 in OT and it bit them in the ass.

Hinrich made a mistake or two, but when he had the ball and brought it up court I thought he did just fine breaking the press. He also made a nice pass into the low post to AD but Wallace made a hell of a defensive play to knock it away. Of course it wouldn't of came to that if Davis went to grab the ball instead of let it hit him with his hands at his side. Still, as long as the Bulls learn from this I'll be alright with the loss.

Davis with two poor plays in the last minute to help them lose the game. At the same time can't really complain all that much. I only saw the end of the 4t hand OT, but hey, they played with Detroit and should of won without Eddy. Hopefully we meet Detroit in the Conference Finals

For those tieing the Cubs to steroids...Piedra was a former Cubs farm hand I Remember seeing a post somewhere on this board with people talking about all the Cubs farmhands that had been suspended the first go round.

I thought the exact same thing...in it being Gene. All I know is that was a White Sox Winner

To be honest, Munoz probably belongs right where Diaz is because both are similar. I still see more upside in Munoz but both have had up and down sucess and are a little battered about. Of course Munoz is still just 22 and that curve is wicked. Like Dan says though, if he struggles in Charlotte he's pretty much into the midst of the Adkins/Diaz/Walker which is being a back of the end reliever at best, imo.

The reason Hansen is in Kanny is most likely because he's more of an organizational guy. Latter round pick without much upside, but you never know. If Francisco and Lucy were together they would be fighting for playing time and that would be detrimental. I still firmly believe you won't see Lucy get many AB's down in WS and that he's essnetially an extended spring training type of guy, but his college experience could make him ready for WS I guess. They say he's supposed to be a stud defensively. Offensively is where he's semi overmatched at this point, but he's a hell of an athlete for a catcher.

I noticed I never finished Gio's up. I only got about halfway done so I'll have an update up tomorrow with info on Gio's stuff. That update will go along with the final list.

I've long been a Crede backer, so count me in.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 11, 2005 -> 08:16 AM) The sad thing is that no one is mentioning the excellent defensive play that should have resulted in the CS at 3B of Torii Hunter by covering his line to the base. Hunter never got his foot on the bag, (as Joe had it perfectly blocked) and Crede had the tag down, but the ump just flat out missed it. That was an awesome play. He also made a nice play on a slow grounder fielded it and made the throw and Joe Morgan was showing the replay talking about how thats exactly how its supposed to be done.

I gotta feeling he's just listed there, but he hasn't gotten any ab's or anything yet. I heard he was in extended spring but maybe they want him up there just working with some of the pitchers in the pen while taking BP with the team because there really isn't much of a reason for him to skip Kannapolis, unless of course they want him in Winston Salem because they feel he's more ready to be rushed than Francisco. Problem is Lucy didnt play well last year.

Good call on one of them. My guess is Young would be the one to go down, but it could very well be Owens as well.

Wow...you post with such grace for the ripe old age of 7 So you got a rousing game of Pin the Tail on the Donkey all lined up???

QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 10:38 PM) Those remarks blaming Crede for that play were some of the most ridiculous statements from so called knowledgable baseball fans that I've ever seen. I tend to agree with you. I understand people being frustrated with him, but christ, the guy flat out plays hard and did all he could defensively trying not to give up on the ball. It was quite obvious by the way he was trying to keep the ball in front of him that he had no clue Uribe even had a shot at the play. Crede did it as fundemantal as possible (although he did lose his balance) and even had a double in the game and hit the ball hard earlier in the series. If you want to be frustrated with Joe, fine, he obviously hasn't developed into the player many thought he would of (at least not yet) but for cripes sake its amazing how this year he's all of a sudden a turd defensively. A guy thats talked about in the upper echelon defensively after just 1 full season. 6 games don't make a season...case closed. If a month from now he's hitting in the low .200's its time to make a change, but give him that. This is a guy that absolutely raked the ball in the minors and has had periods at the major league level where he's destroyed the ball. Do people need ot take a look at what Beltre did in LA up until last year to realize sometimes you shouldn't give up on a guy? I don't even know why I'm talking about something like this 6 games into the season though. Crede made adjustments to his swing, he started to break out late in spring, and has struggled early in the season, but he deserves at least a shot to get through them and Ozzie needs to stick with him now because frankly Crede isn't going to be what costs the Sox the playoffs, at least not a month of Crede (even if he was playing awful offensively). And frankly I'm not willing to say Ozuna is better than Crede nor am I willing to even mention Fields name until late this year (even then I wouldn't be very excited) so it would mean Kenny would have to shop. Before giving up valuable prospects (that could go into other areas) I'd like to think the Sox truly gave enough time to evaluate the adjustments Joe made. Plus, not many teams are willing to deal a quality 3rd baseman this early in the year so the pickings would be slim.

I stand corrected.

But Mitch Wylie was released. He was slated to be on the Charlotte Knights. Spidale, Diaz, Giambi and Person are all guys that are likely to find there way on Charlottes roster in the next week or two. Bham doesn't have any room so its going to be awfully interesting to see what goes down the next two weeks because I anticipate a few cuts will be made. Obviously the Knights have some vets they could unload or the Sox could deal some AAA guys for A ball players (I know Kanny could use some help in certain areas, although I've yet to really look hard at all the rosters, will be doing that after my midterm tomorrow when I start the season preview articles...even though the seasons started).

I get the bronze, WOOT

QUOTE(T R U @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 03:28 PM) Holy s*** that would rule.. then we could give them steroids and they could both be on the White Sox as the NEW BASH BROS!!

QUOTE(Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 02:48 PM) I have a friend ( a woman) who once drove a MASSIVE conversion van. THis thing was HUGE, but she loved it. It was lovingly reffered to as "The Shaggin Wagon" in high school. To the best of my knowledge, sex was never conducted in that van. However it apperently saw other things that former President Clinton does not consider sex or adultry. We called my buddies truck the shaggin waggin, but it was nicknamed that from Dumb and Dumber....to his shagrin no shaggin went on back there, lol.

Twinks don't suck, but may the Sox be better than them (record wise) this year. Personally I got a lot of respect for the way they play the game. They play a "fun" style of baseball and so far the Sox seem to be playing more like that this year and at the sam time they got some more run producers than the twins and to me a better rotation. Bullpens rank out evenly to me, maybe even a nod up to the Twins. I love the Sox pen too. EIther way, may this be one hell of a year

Cubs suck...because of Ronnie WOO WOO

I'd say the Muts signing Kris Benson to the deal they did was just as dumb of a move. Same with the Dodgers giving JD Drew big bucks instead of Adrian Beltre. Piss poor.

Knight, that was the whole point of this board. Were hopoing Mariotti can come by and share some of his insight with all of us.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Apr 10, 2005 -> 08:14 PM) I believe he said, " Because he doesn't play for Boston or New York, "when asked why Buehrle is relatively unknown outside Chicago. Ozzie is difficult to understand, so I may be wrong. Thats how heard it. He said that because he plays for the White Sox and not New York or Boston. He didn't ever say "your" or at least I didn't hear that, but with Oz you never know. Basically he's right though and it isn't even ESPN's fault. I mean ESPN talked up Sheets a ton last year and hell, most generic baseball fans wouldn't know that much about him either.