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Ordonez Placed on the Disabled List; Borchard Recalled By Jason Gage July 23, 2004 FutureSox.com The Chicago White Sox placed star rightfielder Magglio Ordonez back on the 15 day disabled list. The news comes a day after Ordonez was scratched from the lineup in Cleveland and flown back to Chicago. The original discussions about Ordonez flight home were that it was a precautionary move, but that has since changed. The exact diagnosis is bone marrow edema, which deals with fluid in the bone marrow of his left knee. Ordonez is expected to miss four to eight weeks. He will be re-elvaluated in four weeks to see if he can begin rehabilitation program. Until then, Ordonez will be on crutches and will be limited to swimming. This news increases the possibility for a trade. In July the Sox offense has already been dreadful, and was hitting worse in the major leagues on the month. Joe Borchard is being recalled from Charlotte to replace Ordonez. Borchard will likely be the everyday right fielder unless a trade is made. This is the second straight time Borchard's promotion comes at the barring of bad news. A few weeks ago Borchard was promoted to Chicago because slugger Frank Thomas was placed on the disabled list. First baseman/Designated Hitter Carlos Delgado is the type of bat the Sox could use and he listed the Sox along with the Dodgers as the two teams he'd accept a trade to. This move is unlikely though, as the Sox probably don't have the chips in place. However, Carlos Beltran could be another high profile possibility. Beltran plays centerfield and is also a free agent at the end of the year (like Magglio). However, the Astros appear to be staying in the race, hoping they can win the wild card. The best thing that could result of this injury is the emergence of Joe Borchard. Borchard has long had the tools to become a good player and now he's being forced into a tough position, but if he could produce, the White Sox could find themselves in a good situation, especially when and if Magglio and Frank Thomas come off the disabled list. Borchard hit .158 in six games with the Sox earlier this month. He was hitting .266 with 16 homers and 48 RBI with Charlotte (AAA). However, Borchard did look much more comfortable at the plate in his most recent call-up, which could be a good sign.

I was expecting this thread being about Bill Clinton.

I second that, welcome aboard.

Also, note that Clint King is back. I knew their was a reason he was in the outfield throwing balls when I was in Kanny. I swore he was out for the year with a busted hammate, but I was obviously wrong. Great to see him back though, I do know he had a semi serious injury (in terms of keeping him out, but its not one that will have a long term effect). As far as Dave Sanders goes, watch out in regards to him. He may be the next guy called up, ahead of Wunsch, who should be back on the mound relatively soon. Sanders has been pitching his butt off as of late and I've heard from a few people that this is the best he's pitched since being in the org (after his awful start). Gio....yess.....Rodriguez....yess.....Fabio....yes. Gio is impressing me, high k's, low walks, low hits almost every outing. He's gonna get his shot in Kanny soon enough, imo.

Welcome aboard. I wouldn't necessarily call the two rival sites. Some would, but their are a lot of people like yourself that post on both sites, myself included. Make yourself at home here and welcome aboard Oh ya, for minor league info, we have the board and then a site called www.futuresox.com

Victor Martinez...it has to be him. If Shingo dominates down the stretch and helps get the team into the postseason, he may have a shot though.

If they deal Jones to the Pirates, then I saw kenny goes out and gets Jones. I love Jacque Jones.

Delgaod just came off the disabled list. The only thing I can't see with this deal is that if you make the trade, next year you have Konerko, Thomas and Delgado, meaning its going to be hard to trade someone. However, if the Sox get Thomas to walk or deal one of the guys, then it makes sense. And I know me mentioning Thomas walking will piss a lot of guys off. I do know one thing, Delgado's left handed bat would be a hell of an upgrade to this offense. Part of me thinks, maybe Maggs is a part of the deal, since he'll be gone and Delgado is signed a little longer (isn't he???), but I think he gets like 16 mill a year or so. However, if the Sox could get Delgado and Miguel Batista for Maggs, I'd think long and hard about it. I don't know though, cause getting Delgado would mean one of the Sox bats is part of the trade, they would have to be, cause it would make sense any other way, cause he wouldn't have a position. That or the Sox feel they can get Delgado and then use Maggs to get pieces to get the Big Unit. On a sidenote, anyone know what the Jays are asking.

That game will be badass

Ok, that makes it a little less of a loss for me. For some reason I swore reading Phil Rogers piece earlier in the year about Francisco thinking he said he was 20 or 21. Now that had to of been the reason I didn't give a crap about giving him up. Just like I wouldn't care if the Sox gave up An. Older guys in A ball have very little chance of suceeding. My bad on messing up the age.

Oldsocks...good post. I am semi with you on the Alomar trade. I was never a huge fan of the deal because Willie was playing very good at the time. However, a lot of other people backed it and Hawk is always talking about what Robbie did to help the club. I'm not around the club so I don't know, but his numbers, were shearly mediocre with the Sox. As far as Everett, he came here, motivated the horses and did what he did. It wasn't his fault he had a lame duck for a manager and well the team just didn't produce (not only Manuel's fault). The only reason I didn't hate the Alomar deal is because I had very little faith in Royce Ring. In regards to the Freddy Garcia deal, I give up a potentially good young bat and a solid catcher any day of the week for a very good 27 year old pitcher that is now signed to a 3 year deal, who has the upside to break out. Also, I know you mentioned Randy Johnson or one person did in this post. But argument A is at the time he wasn't on the block and argument B is who knows whether Sox ownership was willing to open up the purse strings for Randy, whose contract is quite risky soley because he is up their in age. One other thing, I think its wrong to blame KW for giving up another guy or two because the Sox were getting a ton of money sent their way for Everett. Kenny can't sit their and do nothing. He was going to do what he could to make the team better, with a top 3 of Colon, Elo, and Buehrle at the time, you had to do what you could to get that team into the playoffs because those three guys on the mound could of carried this team to the World Series. If he sat their and did nothing, the team would of walloped, the fans would of cried, and attendance would of went down. Instead they went out and tried, they failed, but they tried. This year they are doing it again and now you really start hearing Sox fans acting as if Randy Johnson is a possibility. Think 3 or 4 years ago, we would of never even imagined something like that possible. Now its not going to happen, frankly, the Sox don't have the chips without giving up some things I don't think I'd give up and even then I don't know if the deal could go down. Dan, I think Francisco could be a big loss because he is doing decent at the major league level. You can also see he has a hell of an arm. Now I don't know if his velocity jumped since leaving the Sox system, but I do know he was always said to be a semi power pitcher, but no one in the org ever thought that highly of him, at least I never read or heard anything along those lines. In a sense, I guess KW earns a little credit for getting him for Bobby Howry (didn't they get him and An from the BoSox for him???). In hindsight, that is one guy I don't give up. Last year I said no worries in giving up him, wasn't too worried about Webster, although I admitted potential, and freaking hated losing Rupe...still do.

That was just scary reading. I fly a lot and I would of been scared out of my mind. Having the marshalls their would of been at least assuring, but 14 people, even with a few marshalls, isn't necessarily going to prevent the unthinkable.

Just stay away from this guy who calls himself Heads in Olewein....the guy is a real nut job.

I'm with you MN. I can't go back on what I said at the time of the trade. I never wanted to give up Rupe, but didn't have a problem with Webster or Francisco. Looks like I was wrong on Francisco, but I can't blame KW or anyone else, cause to me he didn't look like a guy you would really regret losing.

Me too, this is a cool idea for a thread Rex

Sucks for you, this year my office is actually airconditioned. Past couple summers he basically refused to use it and used the power crunch as his excuse, lol. So is it nice being back in Cali?

247...good seeing ya. I'm assuming its starting to get pretty damn hot out where you are?

Just make sure you stop at hot topic before the show

Reportedly he has full range of motion and no fluid in his knee. It could be his sore just from playing the field cause he wasn't ready and the scar tissue still has to heal. I'm hoping its more a good sore...and that this is strictly precautionary and they just want to take care of it today since they will be back in town tomorrow.

He is coming back to Chicago due to soreness in his knee. I don't know how serious it is, but I don't think this is good news at all. Hopefully its just precautionary.

If the Sox are giving up Crede and Borchard, then they aught to give up two more pieces and get the Unit.

From the sound of what Buehrle said in the interview (I don't have the exact wording) but he talked with Maggs and Maggs was hinting that something may be going down once he gets back to Chicago. I don't know what that means, but JJAV posted it over at WSI, who listened to the interview. Didn't see it on here, so I figured i'd pass it along. Basically Buehrle said sounding from the media things were way off between Maggs and the Sox, but then he talked with Maggs about it and Maggs hinted different. Maybe the Sox are offering him another deal when he gets back to Chicago, who knows, but interesting nonetheless.

Wait, Cheat, are you in some bike riding competition?

Here's the age old question, is bowling a sport.....????

I don't know why you guys can't. It must be set where only registered members can vote. I'll try and fix it. If you guys are registered their, then I really don't know whats up. It would explain why the votes are always low on the polls cause the site gets hits