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He could be a Biddle of this year too....ie, Awful

Guys, who gives a crap how many prospects they give up, the key is which prospects pan out. It looks like Fransisco may not of been a guy the Sox should of given up. However, remember, we got him for Howry (I think at least). I guess that wasn't too bad of a job by KW. Who knows, but I can't think of that many people that were really high on him when he was given up. He's turned it around, much like Enemencio Pacheco did for the Sox last year until he got hurt this season. Would it be any different if instead they acquired a similar player to Everett, with just a different name. Bottom line is the Sox are going for it now, they had a need, and they went out and got it without giving up any of the Sox "high ceiling" prospects. I still think its bulls*** they dealt Reed instead of Borchard (if true), but thats been done. He's the one real high rated prospect KW has given up thus far. Webster was highly thought of and he has a lot of potential, but so does Chris Young, Ryan Sweeney, Brian Anderson, and Joe Borchard. Josh Rupe has been hurt all year. He was the guy I didn't want to give up in the deal. He still may turn it around, but I think its hard whenever a young pitcher has a serious injury (I am not sure what his is, but he only has pitched in like 2 games all year). So as of now, it looks like Fransisco and potentially Webster (still tough to say, he's at such a low level) could turn into something of the past Everett deal. The Sox got a guy, salary paid, who put up very good numbers and helped spark and increase attendance for a while. It failed, but damn it, it was worth the shot. Its better then giving up when your team still has a shot, imo. This year they give up Rauch (I don't think he has a spot in the organization) and Majewski (I like him, but still, relief prospects are pretty tough to pan out). Everett hasn't been playing as good, but he's been hurt and was playing for the Expos in what I consider a pitchers park (at least Montreal). He's signed at an affordable rate and from what I heard the Sox got cash considerations (don't know how true that is and if so what amount). Once again the Sox had a need and they got a player that most of the guys are familiar with. They also get a left handed bat against RHP, and a replacement for Frank while gone. If Frank comes back, fine, now the Sox have a guy that can play against good righties and break up all the righties. Ozzie will find a way to play em. All I'm saying is, don't tell me how many prospects a GM has given up, tell me which ones he's given up (ie the decent ones) and then what the team got and did it fill a need. In Kw's deals I can say he's given up some good prospects, but he's also gotten guys that definately fill a need. Thus far he's been pretty decent at not giving up ones to bite the Sox in the ass. Reed will be a player, thats a given, Kip turned into something (I always hated that deal) and their is a shot some of the guys they gave up for Everett could turn into something. However, the Sox got a shot to win the world series and they are actually making noise in the media and having a growing fan base. I'll give up a few prospects soley because this is positioning the Sox to go deep and they are also in a position now to potentially add payroll. When was the last time Sox fans could hear that????

Adkins has pitched well and Jackson is their cause they want a vet. If it were me, Majewski or Diaz would be in the pen over Mike "batting practice" Jackson. I do think its a good deal though. I think Grilli is as good as Rauch. I don't think either of them are that talented, but the Sox have a lot of those good AAA pitchers down in Charlotte, most of which probably won't be much anything in the majors. I have never been a Rauch fan, well, I was back when he was healthy, but he just doesn't get it. Maybe a change of scenery will be good, but I doubt it. I think Majew will fit into their pen. Not saying he'll be a stud, but he's got the arm, two good pitches, and the mentality to potentially be a closer. Who knows if it happens, but if anyone makes the deal good from the Expos perspective it will be Majewski, not Rauch, imo.

Ooops, I merged the wrong thread into this one....dumbs*** is right, lol.

Gotta disagree with you on your assessment of Maj. I think he's the better of the players involved in the deal. Just my 2 cents though

I'd rather see the Sox take their chances on resigning Maggs. Whose to ever say that Walker stays healthy. I'd rather acquire Griffey Jr and no, I'm not really in favor of either.

If anyone gave top prospect value to Kris Honel, I'd dumb his ass incredibly fast. Maybe harsh, but I have little faith in him at this point.

In the future were going to shorten up the questions, to like 4 or so, cause this was incredibly long Although I gotta say, I enjoyed reading all the other peoples responses!!!!

FutureSox.com Panel of Experts: Midseason Predictions By Staff FutureSox.com July 18, 2004 FutureSox.com's leading writers were given a few questions and all responded to the questions on their own with an explanation why. This is going to be the first installment of what is a new feature on FutureSox.com, one where a few different people answer you, the readers questions. We hope this can create a nice way for the reader to interact with the site. Also, in the future, FutureSox.com would like to get some guest members of the panel...More This article is very long so its easiest to read on FutureSox.com

Because he would be playing for a winning team. I think pretty much anyone in Pitt would accept out of there unless it was too the Expos or something. I think the only other bat they may add is if they decide they need another catcher. Their could also be the possibility they add a top of the order type guy.

Happy Bday Brando.

Sox Acquire Everett for Rauch and Majewski By Jason Gage FutureSox.com July 18, 2004 When Frank Thomas went down, it was obvious that Ken Williams now had another hole to fill, this one offensively. Recently Carl Everett came back off the disabled list and Williams has long been a fan of Everett, especially after the way he played since arriving in Chicago last June. Everett hit .301 with 10 HR and 41 RBI in his 73 games with the White Sox. This season Everett has found himself on the disabled list a couple times and has struggled. Now he finally appears healthy, although he has not had a strong month of July, where he is hitting .222. However, he did hit over .300 in June when he came off the disabled list. Everett signed a 2 year $7.5 contract this offseason with the Expos. Everett will likely replace Joe Borchard on the roster with Magglio Ordonez moving back to right field, although their is the possibility that the Sox decide to send down one of their catchers instead. Despite that possibility, the White Sox want Borchard to be playing every day, and he won't do that with Everett now on the roster. Everett is not a legitimate option in centerfield for the Sox and it is unclear what will happen when Thomas comes off the disabled list in eight weeks (if he does), but either way this adds a switch hitting bat to a once righty dominated lineup. Now the lineup contains two power bats from the left side, at times, in Everett and Valentin. The White Sox gave up former top prospect Jon Rauch. Rauch, 25, has pitched well in AAA this year going 6-3 with a 3.11 ERA in 14 games (13 starts). His ERA was below 2.50 until his most recent start, which was an absolute shelling in a double header. Rauch was scratched from his last start, although it was unlikely it was due to the upcoming trade. Rauch has been hampered by a knee injury. Rauch also made two starts with the White Sox, going 1-1 with a 6.23 ERA. Rauch throws a 88-90 MPH fastball, a solid slider, and a curveball. He will ocassoinally mix in a changeup as well. The other pitcher the White Sox gave up was Knights closer Gary Majewski. Majewski has bounced around from the White Sox, back to Los Angeles, and then was acquired in the Rule V draft by Toronto, only to be sent back to the White Sox. Despite all his travels, Majewski is a good relief prospect, with the mindset of a closer. He was 3-3 with 14 saves and a 3.19 ERA with the Knights this year. His numbers as of late are even better, as he had a rough start to the season. Majewski throws a 94-96 MPH fastball with a good slider and a developing changeup. The White Sox also received cash considerations from the Expos. The result of these cash considerations mean that the White Sox will end up paying less than $150,000 for the remainder of the season. They are on the ticket for Everett in 2005, although Everett can opt out of his contract. The Sox hold a 2005 team option at $5 million with a $500,000 buyout. Note: For those of you unfamiliar with Majewski, check back with FutureSox.com later today or early tomorrow for a clip of Majewski taken during the FutureSox road trip.

Hate giving up Majewski, but I realize you have to give something to get something. I think Rauch straight up would of done it, but I guess the Sox got some cash considerations and thats why Majewski was part of it. I'm guessing KW is now pretty much done in terms of the trade department, with the possible exception of a deal that involves a reliever or something.

After talking with Kirk Champion a week ago, I saw the writing was on the wall in regards to Rauch. I'm not at all surprised to see him go, although I'm incredibly dissapointed to see Majewski go. I really like his potential in the late innings out of the pen. I'll put up an interview of him today or tomorrow for those that aren't familiar with him. He's really got that closers mentality and has been working on a change to go with a 94-96 MPH fastball and a good slider.

Rowand fine, but do not give up Garland...get them to take Scho, Rowand and two top prospects.

I know about him

I thought I, Robot was pretty damn good.

Ah didn't realize you guys had Fry's out there. They are a pretty badass store. Sometimes they have some pretty badass deals.

Indiana...I just whoooped the living crap out of FIU 91-6. I can't pass for s***, but my defense is all of a sudden whooping serious ass.

Rowand yes...Garland...HELL NO.

I'd take Olerud over Crime Dog. Still, I'd prefer Everett out of the bunch.

At the left side of the plate Borchard can hit, from the right side, its not very pretty.

Carl is a player I like to watch. He hustles and plays hard and has a good eye. He isn't tremendous in the field anymore, but he isn't going to be in the field all that much. He may ocassionally spell Carlos in left but thats about it. However, with another year left on his deal, the Sox should be able to get him without giving up much in terms of prospetcs. That to me is the key to this deal.

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Thats cause it was us that scooped it