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Most definately. Colon is the superior pitcher, but at 25 Vazuqez has thrown innings and had sucess. The one thing that worries me is a rather high opponents batting average.

Why do you taunt me with such ideas!!! Ok here goes...IF somehow we could miraculously pull that off here is what I do...turn around and trade B. Colon and Carlos Lee to the Reds for Adam Dunn and Ryan Dempster (fill in a few prospects where need be). Then we go into the season with: Mark B. Vazquez Garland Dempster Wright/Rauch 2B - Jiminez SS - Valentin DH - Thomas RF - Maggs 1B - Konerko LF - Dunn 3B - Crede CF - Rowand/Borchard C - Olivo We would be unbeatable. Well, thats a legit proposal. I'd do it, would the Reds? At first I think of it as funny, but if the Reds would take on Lee's salary and Colons it would be sweet deal. I just don't see them taking the money. Of course the whole fun of proposing things like this is to dream.

I'm confused, how would this deal work? I'm assuming it is a 3 way deal with the Reds and Expos.

He's just not any damn good. He doesn't walk much, and his swing is an upper cut, where he tries to lift everything. Which leads to a lot of strike outs. BECAUSE HE WHINES AND CRIES about how he should START. Yet, what has he done? I'm not one to get real down on a player, but when you whine and don't have the stats to back it up, then as far as I'm concerned, get out of town. I liked Liefer entering last year, but I've seen nothing out of him this past season, and yet this winter league, he still stinks. I'll take Mario Valenzula up here as our left handed stick (I think he's a lefty)

Even if Colon is as big as a house? Dibb...I heard on the Radio today that the Red Sox dropped out of the race after their scouts flew out to the Dominican and weighed him in at 271 Pounds!!! Don't know how true it was, but it was on a reliable station (xtra 690) I also heard that another suitor, the New York Mets, is a possibility for Colon, but they don't have the prospects to offer. They were part of the supposed 3 way deal, but now they suspect they may go after Colon.

I'm with ya on that Cerb. To be honest, Vazquez is a very similar pitcher to Jon Garland imo. I still don't see fabulous stuff out of Garland, but he really seems to be developing nicely. I know everyone, scouts and all, rave about this kid, and I never thought he'd be for real, but its looking like I was wrong and I sure hope I am. The key was, Jon stopped trying to overpower everyone and thats when his ball had nasty sinking action. Still, I'd deal West and a prospect for Vazquez.

That surprised the heck out of me. I guess the Brewers think they are going to the series now. Maybe we could trade Jeff Liefer for Ben Sheets.

Rowand is excpected to be ready for the start of spring training. Everything is going good with him. As far as Graffy goes, I think I read a while back that he is a little behind Rowand, but at the most he'd miss like the first 2 weeks of the season. I am not positive on the Graffy situation though, cause not much has been said about him.

I agree with you fully on that. It would be sweet to bring in two stud younger pitchers, but not at the cost of Joe Crede, I can live with everyone else, but not Crede.

I think the Bears should go after Mcgahee in the 3rd. I'd go after Johnson in the 2nd. I know defense is a concern, but could you imagine going Palmer/Leftwich, Johnson, and then Mcgahee. We'd have the makings of a dominant offense for a long long time.

Most Definately.

Sometime in March I'm assuming.

They whooped them up pretty good. Way to go Bulls.

I'll take Stewart. Give him an incentive laden contract. The guy could turn into a probowler and at the very worse he's much better then Jim Miller and very mobile. No way can the Steelers trade him unless they throw in their first round pick for a 7th rounder cause no one is going to pay him what he has coming.

I was going to say JV will realize he's not a power hitter when Ray Durham does. LOL! You know, steroids would really do those two wonders, since they got that Babe Ruth swing.

We play the NL West in interleague play plus the Cubs. I know Cali and I are going to be headin to Dodger Stadium to see the Sox play the Dodgers

Jeremy Reed is going to be real good imo. If only I knew how good he was at the time, I'd of seen him play a couple of times at Long Beach (My Schools rival). The guy should move through the minors quickly this year and could compete with Aaron Rowand as the starting center fielder next year, if the Sox decide to let Lee move to first (If Thomas goes) or not resign Lee meaning Borchard would play left (Possibly right if Maggs moved to left)

Ok will work on that as well. Since its coding stuff it will take me a bit. I'm slow at this stuff, but at least I'm slowly learning.

I want Palmer!!!!!!!!

well right now it just says "1 birthday(s)" and you have to click it to see who's it is, can't you just have it like for the players. I'll work on that Cali.

Lorenzo Barcelo also came out of the Giants system and was a true stud. Now he's a stud no where but....wait a second. He's not a stud anymore. I hope Diaz isn't that kind of stud....he's had injury problems in the past. Well he has the potential to be the same. Barcelo is having a good season down in the Winter Leauges. A report on that should be on the main page tomorrow or Wednesday. We have it done, but are holding it off until the seasons officially end.

Well, if you check off that button that says log me in always or something like that, then you shouldn't have to login everytime you go to the board. I know thats how it works for me. Its just saved in my cookies.

Nah... Liefer just figured out that he really sucks. I'm with ya on that.

Sox Inch Closer to Colon as Market Dies By Mario Scalise Date: January 13, 2003

Never. Liefer really has stunk it up down their. I think he's forgetting he is a power hitter.