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I thought it was a parody account when I saw it on Twitter. I came here for confirmation. Stunning.

Another humiliating blowout defeat. Yes, let's ask the front office employees if they've doe their jobs well.

The scary thing is that JR might accept that bulls@$”. if he needs nine figure guys to complete the rebuild, then he had no rebuild. And he didn’t ever really rebuild: no depth of young talent at all.

They are interviewing the very people who should be out of a job, to find out whether they should be out of a job. We already know that Hahn thinks he's the right man for the job, via his continued presence: "If it ever got to the point where I felt that I wasn’t the right person in my role, I’d step aside.” Hahn from post season 2022 press conference." He's still here, A normal organization might bring in some outsiders to evaluate things. This is so bizarre.

What? The only good trades he's made that really helped the team, without giving up way more than we received, were Eaton x 2 and Eloy/Cease; #4 is probably Santos, as inconsequential as that is. His next best are probably the ones he made at the deadline this year.

Great stats. It was the Mets though Just as a historical sidenote, the trade that brought this man to the southside after the '67 season would make even Rick Hahn blush. It accelerated the Sox downturn, and without this trade, there would have been no "Miracle Mets."

Indeed. If Hahn stays, Pedro stays. Padro has only effed things up for a year; Hahn's been doing it for a decade.

4 walks in the first...doing work on expanding that walk differential.

Yes; 1970 (for those of us who remember) was really bad, but that was the trough of a decline over a few years, after a decade+ of winning. They immediately brought in a new GM and were competitive the next year. This is the most pitiful in my time; and they just rub it in our faces by pushing out the smarmy, condescending, incompetent Hahn to wax excuses.

Nothing that Salvador Perez can't solve.

The Sox should be the overwhelming favorites to finish last in the Central next season. The Tigers have been better all year, and the Royals are starting to show some juice: when young players come together, improvement happens quickly.

The problem was lack of command. That pitch was a puppy dog right down the middle.

Santos may not have thrown many pitches last night, but he was facing 2 of the three same guys. And he faced what would’ve been the next guy up last night as well.

"Following the 2014 season, “We were coming off a tough year but also sitting there realizing that we have the prime of Chris Sale's career ahead of us, the prime of Jose Abreu's career ahead of us and we wanted to make sure we were in a position to capitalize and win within that window,” says Hahn." https://www.si.com/mlb/2015/01/30/white-sox-offseason-rick-hahn-jeff-samardzija-david-robertson From the annals of Hahn, just crowing about his great work in the winter of 2014. Fire him then. Fire him today.

First 28 games: 7-21, .250, 41 win pace. Last 91 games: 40-51, .441, 71 win pace That's a 76%, 30 win improvement!

...... and then there is the Rick Hahn approach when buried in August of losing and not developing young players

Yea, we hit a double. Pretty cool, man

What a puppy-dog pitch that was from Shaw. He needs to be added to the "do not allow to pitch with runners on base" list. Or better yet, the DFA list.

So my optimism is telling me that Charlotte blows because that's where the Hostetler draftees reside (as well as a weak cast of AAAA players, the best of which are now with the big club). Birmingham was terrible for the same reason, but is getting better because the Shirley draftees are moving in. And the Shirley drafts are really showing in A and A+ ball.

I'm cool with Lambert. Yea, he's not that good of a pitcher, but he's a long-time farmhand and it's good that he gets some ML pay during this lost season. Probably not the guy for extra innings though.

Unfortunately, the Knights remain a complete basket-case; 6-20 in the 2nd half, did I read?

Diekman had a negative fWAR in Boston when Hahn traded for him. But yes he was more negative in Chicago than in Boston. Katz may be a problem, I don't know. But I do know that Tampa and the Dodgers (and probably most of the league) have a much stronger supporting analytics staff that can provide their pitching coaches with state of the art information on which to make adjustments and decision. And I would think that situational lefties and older pitchers who have lost a couple of ticks, can really benefit from analytics. It seems to me that the Sox pitchers waste too many pitches. That's probably on the coach to at least some extent; but also something that analytics might be able to help clean up.

Well, Ozzie managed players well for many years. So this "culture problem", whatever that is, probably wouldn't have happened. The WS was won with pitching, defense, and homers. But once Ozzie got more say into personnel decisions, the team started to decline. Ozzie wanted to transform the team into slap hitters who could run and bunt, with defense secondary. And he didn't really care about OBP from his slappers either. Pierre, Erstad, and, of course, Jerry Owens over Quentin. He loved Wise - sub .300 OBP = leadoff hitter. 08? Sox won the division that year despite Ozzie.

Seems like they are doing more of these types of deals in the dawn of the 3rd Hahn rebuild than they did in the 2nd. Should at least get some relievers out of it.

Pedro racking up another seasonal series W.