Jordan4life_2007

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 08:05 PM) Two very quick outs. Down by 200 points in fantasy right now. I have 5 starters going. Edwin's one of them. Maybe I can pull off a miracle comeback. Gallardo for?

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 07:56 PM) Yes, but you're not legitimately trying to be positive. You're overdoing it to make a point that honestly, is not really helping. All I'm saying is that I'm now handicapped. Nobody is going to take me seriously, regardless of my true intentions.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 07:50 PM) Honestly, these posts are a lot more annoying than the Pierre sucks posts. I know that. That's kinda my point. Even if I legitimately tried to be positive nobody would buy it.

I credit JP for giving a maximum effort. I feel confident when I say he'll come through next time.

Morse is f***ing huge.

First and third with nobody out and we don't score. But it is early. There's plenty of time to make amends. There's nothing to get discouraged about here. Like Hawk said, get Dunn and Rios going and it's a wrap. Just like we would've won it all in '04 had Maggs and Frank not gotten hurt. I truly believe this. Will be fine.

Brent heard me. Very nicely done. Let's make 'em pay.

Props to JP for working a solid BB. He's on base. Please, Brent. Let's first and third 'em.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 06:55 PM) View it as the site isn't going to sit around and let you breach and yell and make hyperbolic comments that take down the overall quality of the board. This isn't what this place is for. If you want to handle things in a respectable manner and debate facts and do it without being completely obnoxious than fine. And if you think you have to worry about every post you make, well, quite frankly, your posting style won't work here. Hey, if I get banned for being too hyperbolic, then yes, this is not the place for me. But I'm not getting into that. I see where you're coming from. But your initial post was to be construed as, "Hey, I'm the boss. If you don't like it, get the f*** out of here." That's how I and many others took it. And I know for a fact many that of the current posters here have been banned from WSI for this same reasoning. That's why it's come up. Now I'm going to try to express my contempt for a player such as Juan Pierre without crossing this new threshold. If I cross the line, then so be it.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 05:01 PM) Those where all fictional examples to illustrate a point. Nothing I said was directed at you Jordan but really my post was about the board as a whole and these new changes. On a personal note - I hope that you and I can move on from our past differences and be cool. I know I'm willing to turn the page and that's how I'm seeing these new changes. But really Jordan - everything I stated was directed at this board and towards this topic... nothing was directed specificly to you other than the statements directly above this run-onathon like sentance. Ahhh. I see. I thought you were giving examples of posts that actually occurred. Not just giving examples on what's acceptable and not acceptable. As far as us, I've never had a personal issue with you. You're the one that decided to ignore me and let it be known by everybody that you ignored me. I'm cool. I don't get into wars with other posters.

WTH? Who said Juan needs to be shot? I've never gone that far. Damnit. Now the mods/admins are more justified.

What did I do this time?

Indeed. I think it's extremely encouraging that we're only 4 1/2 out with so many guys underachieving. Is that indicative of the division? I don't think so. Our guys have hung in there and are in position to go on a run. Deep down inside I feel confident that will clear the hurdles and overcome the obstacles.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 01:34 PM) Ugh. Totally expected, yet definitely disappointing. Lilli goes 2-3 (on base 3-4) with 2 RBI and then sits. Well, Ozzie is showing supreme faith in a guy (Pierre) that has a proven pedigree and you have to admire that about him. Ozzie always sticks by his vets and that's a decent trait to have.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 12:30 PM) I think what people are referring to, J4L, is your tendency to use words like "rape" in your posts. Seriously, do you need to constantly post things in such an increasingly dramatic and disturbing fashion? No, I don't. And this goes back to my initial post in this thread (for today) that I think I grossly underestimated how sensitive some people are. If I see somebody post something like, "Damn, the White Sox lost 10-0. They got f***ing b****-slapped." I'm not going to think to myself that person is insulting any woman who's ever been a victim of domestic violence. I'm going to interpret it as, "Yeah, the White Sox most definitely got b****-slapped." From a sports point of view. But I will concede, and this is the only thing I will concede, that if I'm guilty of one thing it's that I don't always recognize that something that doesn't at all bother me doesn't mean it can't offend somebody else. So I'll try to clean that up.

Long story short: I really wanted Jujuan Johnson. Didn't think he'd be there when we picked first. He was there when we picked first. We took a guy that might help us in 2015. I got pissed. Didn't break any board rules. The end.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 11:43 AM) I don't think this is all about you man. I'm guilty too, probably everyone is, no? Oh I know. I wasn't trying to say I was being singled out. But I prefer just to speak for myself. But I'm done with this now.

QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 11:35 AM) You've been here a long time and have never struck me before as the kind of poster you've become this season. Do you yourself sense a change in the tone of your posts this season? Is this the first season you've been disgusted by this team? I think I explained this in "The old guys" thread Tex made a while back. My tone towards this team and organization in general have flip-flopped going back to last year. I didn't wake up one day and say "I hate the White Sox!" But I'm not going to get into that and I'm not going to drag this on in here any longer. Just makin' my opinion known. The mods/admins are going to do what they want to do. And that's fine.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 11:16 AM) These are your words Um, OK? Again, continuous swearing, personal attacks on posters or players? No problem. Being told how you're allowed to express yourself concerning player/team performance or else? That's a totally separate issue.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 11:12 AM) That would be a great example of the hyperbole that is being talked about. NSS never said that. He said if you want an unmoderated board, go there. And to even insinuate that, that's what I want is ridiculous and insulting.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 11:02 AM) Totally missed the point. In fact, we want people to disagree, it makes better discussions. It has absoultely nothing to do with how bad you think Juan Pierre is, or how good you think Paul Konerko is. Its about how you post. And you still don't get that. Not once, ever, has a poster been suspened or even PM'd or talked with about where they stand on some specific issue, player, stat, decision, etc. Never happened, and isn't going to here either. Are you not capable of telling us why you think Player X is bad? Or can you only post an expletive-laden, laughably over-the-top rant? Do you think anyone wants to read a site full of posts like that? If you want a truly, 100% unmoderated forum, then go over to ESPN or MLB boards. See how fun that is. If you want a heavily moderated and tuned forum, go to WSI, see how long you last there. If you want something in between, stay here, but be aware that we have rules and expectations too. Do you really need an extensive, detailed, book report on why JP sucks? I've done my Kalapse impression and thrown numbers out there. And other times I have fun with it. I don't see the big issue here. You guys keep saying I'm missing the point? The board owner was the one that created this thread. How else is somebody like myself supposed to view this? Maybe muzzle or gag were too strong a terms. How about greatly alter? And this what Milk is talking about. I can tell by the tone of your post that you're like really getting mad. "Do what we say or go to the ESPN board." I never said the inmates should run the asylum.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 10:56 AM) Your post missed all of the discussion that has been done here. I've read through the thread. And I've come to the same conclusion. Now I have to worry about getting suspended if I say something as trivial as "Adam Dunn sucks" after another 0/4, 3K game.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 24, 2011 -> 10:44 AM) Even sober, you missed the point entirely. That's pretty cut and dry.

I was a little buzzed last night (shocking, I know), but now that I'm sober I can now kinda say my piece on this issue. Without making this a 1500 word rant or a pessimist vs optimist centric post, I think the one thing that I've definitely underestimated about the board in general is the overall sensitivity, or more specifically, over-sensitivity. When I say that, I don't mean certain posters are crybabies or get their feelings hurt easily. But when a poster(s) says that they don't want to post or can't come in here or it's just too negative for them, etc, is that my problem (using me as an example here) or theirs? That a person(s) that you've never met before in your life can have that affect on you? That seems like a separate issue in itself. There's not a poster here that will influence how often I frequent the board. If I take a month off it'll be because I just felt like taking a month off or I've been too busy or whatever. Not because a poster or a certain group 'forced' me to. What's the ignore feature for? USE IT! If it bothers you that much then you have that option. I'm only speaking for myself here. Yes, I do create hyperbolic posts at times. Yes, if we're losing 8-2 in the bottom of the 7th I'll get nasty. Yes, when the Twins run out a lineup on consecutive nights that would make Smalls, Benny, Porter, Squints and Yeah-Yeah point and laugh and you STILL lose, yes, that's not going to exactly inspire a positive vibe. When I say JP sucks, I mean he sucks as a baseball player. Not as a man, husband or father. When Alex Rios get torched? It's because his performance as a baseball player warrants it. Not because I think he rapes small bunnies. When Peavy gets critiqued, it's all baseball related. I don't and never will see a problem with that as long as you don't cross that threshold. As far as excessive cursing and personal attacks, yeah, I get that. And that's for the mods and admins to take care of. But trying muzzle or put a gag order on certain posters (and then basically saying if you don't comply, see ya!) because they express their views/opinions regarding the players/team differently from others? Only one site comes to mind.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 23, 2011 -> 11:05 PM) If you want people to not think that you're "talking out of your ass", back up your opinions with facts. Facts? As in this draft? I can't provide facts right now. It's all personal opinion. These f***ers haven't played in the NBA yet.