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QUOTE (WHarris1 @ Jan 23, 2010 -> 11:40 PM) Well when the alternative is the miserable combo that Ozzie intends to throw out there it's pretty clear why I agree. But god damn. I'm not going to forfeit the season if we don't bring back Jim Thome. Our offense is not THAT much better with him. Assuming he can even match what he did last year. We still need our three best players, Rios, CQ and Ramirez, to perform at their 2007/2008 levels before we can even begin to say this is a league average offense.

Am I the only one that's bothered that this entire board is obsessed with adding a 40-year old DH? I mean I'd like Thome back as well. But you would think we were talking about a combination of Barry Bonds, Roberto Alomar and Ken Griffey Jr.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jan 23, 2010 -> 06:29 PM) With the game on the line who do I want with the ball, Kobe or LeBron, I still go with Kobe and until LeBron beats Kobe like MJ did Magic, the baton still belongs to Bryant... Meh. That's a pretty lazy, close-minded way of looking at it. The better player is the better player. Are you honestly going to tell me it wasn't until the the end of the '91 finals that Michael became better than Magic? I get the killer instinct thing to a degree. And I can admit Kobe is more cut-throat than Lebron. That alone can't make him the better player. And the ring argument is useless. Give Lebron the 2000-2002 versions of Shaq and that's 3 rings right there. And Kobe's 2009 supporting cast pretty easily trumps anything Lebron has ever had around him. Lebron put up stats vs the Magic last year that rival what MJ used to do in his prime against teams like the Cavs and Knicks. I mean I won't say Lebron is absolved of any blame. You win as a team you lose as a team. But when you use simply logic, it's fairly easy to conclude who the better player is.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 23, 2010 -> 11:28 AM) Tejada back to Baltimore. Thought Crede would land there. Read that it's a 1-year deal. Depending on the dollars, I like this move for the O's. I really like what they're doing right now.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jan 23, 2010 -> 10:24 AM) Probably just some guy named Ken said it More: http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/8115649529 I just want to thank you for removing that Dawson's Creek avatar. You could've put a photo of Richard Simmon's bare ass there instead and I actually would've been less revolted than I was every time I saw that Dawson pic.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Jan 23, 2010 -> 11:11 AM) Nah I'm also gonna say Lebron is the best player in the league. On top of that I'd say if we're talking best offensive players, you've gotta throw Carmelo into the discussion IMO. Stats are obviously not everything. But Lebron puts Kobe to shame in just about every statistical category (standard and advanced) that there is. That just can't be overlooked, IMO. Yeah, Kobe's been around longer and he's got the four rings. But there really is no legitimate argument one can make for Kobe currently being a better player than Lebron.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jan 22, 2010 -> 10:41 PM) Kobe Bryant says hello... I did say it was arguable. But at the very least you can say Durant is in the discussion for top offensive player in the league. I certainly didn't predict that for him less than 3 years into his career.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jan 22, 2010 -> 09:03 PM) Durant's terrible defensively though. He works on that, he'll be mentioned in the same bracket as Kobe and Lebron IMO. True. But I don't remember many people raving about Lebron's D in year 3. Kobe's always been an overrated defender. But point taken. But I'm not sure there's a more gifted offensive player in the league.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 22, 2010 -> 09:28 PM) But Ozzie is the 3rd man on the totem pole. Ultimately its KW's responsibilty with JR's OK to mold the roster, or why even bother paying him? Let him hang out at Market. If they decide they want to give Ozzie the responsibilty of making the roster, then KW and/or JR should utimately be responsible for that decision. It used to be up to Konerko and Thome if they wanted to add to the roster. Ozzie had no idea KW even claimed Rios on waivers. Its very curious, but I think ultimately they will get another player. They have already come out and said they have the funds for another player. Usually we hear the exact opposite. Whether its Thome or someone else who can play the field, someone is coming in. You need to seriously get off that kick. The Sox were damn near 30 games over .500 through the first half of 2006. There were no obvious/realistic additions to be made. So what if KW asked for some player input? Do you really believe that Kenny has ever not made a deal based on a player's opinion? Give it a rest.

Peavytime=Poppy Hildago?

More like he was banished to the Mets. One of the worst FA signings in recent memory.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 04:29 PM) Talk about calling guys out. All we need is for Kobe to pull a hamstring and miss two months afterwards for this to become a mess. He could do that in a preseason game. With that said, the dunk contest has been dead (save for 2000) for well over a decade.

Lebron is the best player in the league. That's not up for debate anymore, IMO. But how good is Kevin Durant? It was obvious at Texas he was gonna be a stud. But I didn't think he would be THIS cold THIS quick. He arguably has the most complete offensive arsenal in the league. It would've been nice to have won the lottery in 2007 instead of 2008. Of course, we probably take Oden. Which couldn't have really been debated at the time.

Qwerty or Kalapse for poster of the year. They can post once in 6 weeks and you'll remember that post. Especially Qwerty. lol.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 05:33 PM) There's a reason why Franklin Gutierrez got 4 years, $20.5M with only 3 years of service time under his belt and pedestrian career offensive production (Tom Tango's presence in the front office for one). As the teams start using more and more of these advanced metrics in player evaluation the media will catch up as well. You are indeed correct, sir. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 06:39 PM) Whoever votes for the Golden Glove awards is still years behind though... I gave up on the GG a few years ago. How Gutierrez and Utley didn't win one defies any logical explanation.

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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 04:26 PM) Within the past few years, the writers have done a much better job of voting for the major award winners. The only one I would have argued at all was the 2009 NL Cy Young, but that would have been for argument's sake and I have no problem with Lincecum winning it. Sabermetrics are having more and more impact on performance evaluation every passing year. I don't think will see another 2005 AL CY Young or 2006 NL MVP farce anytime soon.

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QUOTE (WHITESOXRANDY @ Jan 18, 2010 -> 06:47 AM) Our rotation could be Pedro, Big Unit, Clemens, Maddux and Halladay in their primes and you could say: Clemens - PEDS user, could breakdown or get suspended RJ, Pedro and Doc - all injury prone Maddux- doesn't throw hard enough. The league will eventually catch up to him.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 18, 2010 -> 11:59 PM) Yes but why sign a guy like Jones over Dye? Money? I think we could sign Dye on the relative cheap. Unless he'd be all upset and is bound and determined to play elsewhere. Has JD told you something none of us know?

No harm on a minor league deal. But I don't expect Cabrera to do much of anything. He's a terrible pitcher.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jan 17, 2010 -> 08:24 AM) The better hitters are those one's who don't make outs and hit for power, hence why this is the DH stereotype. The only reason Ozzie wants this flexible DH bulls*** is because he's clueless. Jim Thome provided this team with more value between 06 and 09 than flexibility ever could have. Flexibility isn't production. Sure it's nice to be able to rest your players but at some point you need to have someone capable of stepping up to the plate and giving you offense. I don't see who that person is from our current DH rotation. Andruw Jones could be the guy, but I'd be surprised if he's ever a good offensive player again. I missed this post as I browsed through this thread. BEST.POST.OF.THREAD. I've never in my life heard of a rotating DH system. I've always considered myself an 'Ozzie guy.' But he doesn't get, or at least shouldn't get, a lifetime pass for 2005. In short, he's getting on my damn nerves.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jan 17, 2010 -> 02:24 PM) Hey if Kotsay wants to hit like he did as a W.Sox last year for a whole year, I'm fine with that. Get on base. No matter who we get for DH, we need Quentin and Rios to return to '08 production. Otherwise we're not contending for anything anyway. I think of Thome as someone who doesnt do a ton with the bat other than go long. If we're not spending tons yet on payroll, I'd like to get back to smart hitting that is coming from somewhere other than a slap hitter. Maybe Kotsay is better at that than a Thome or Branyan. Could be way off on that but all kinds of things can happen (Thome showing his age, Branyan returning to horrid OBP, etc) As we stand I think we project to have a good amount of power already. Thank you! I get so sick of hearing how an upgrade at DH is the key to this offense being at least league average. And add Alexei as another guy that has to get back to '08 production.

2006 without hesitation. And I wasn't one that was naive enough to think that the pitching staff would be able to duplicate what they did in 2005 (although I never thought guys like Buehrle, Cotts, Politte would fall off a cliff like they did). But I believed with the addition of Thome and a very much upgraded bench, that any drop-off in pitching would be neutralized by a big spike in offensive production. And though the first half of 2006, that proved to be the case. But when the offense fell off during the second half (save for Dye), our fate was basically sealed. Still hurts me to this day we couldn't find someway to get in. Even with the struggles of Buehrle and Contreras in the second half, I would've liked our chances against anybody from the '06 playoff field.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jan 17, 2010 -> 09:24 AM) Danks is better than Floyd and thus should be making more than him, simple economics. Those types of issues I am pretty sure don't cross the mind of any front office employee otherwise it would handcuff nearly everything they do. Floyd was clearly better than Danks last year. And that's quite impressive considering the horrendous start Gavin got of to. With that said, I'm glad we've got both. I'm really not that concerned about the club being able to work out an extension with Danks. I'm fairly certain something will get done.