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QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Mar 24, 2006 -> 12:08 AM) Caught Paul Harvey on the radio today doing his 4 pages of news. I'm sure of very few things, but I know that Mr. Harvey will die by choking on his own phlegm. Someone get him a lozenge, quick. Good day! He is one of the coolest guy ever though. He can die how he likes.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 21, 2006 -> 11:15 PM) I am probably more concerned than I need to be, but I just dont have a good feeling going into the year. I really think we caught alot of luck last year with the injury bug, and I dont know if the luck can last. If it can, I think we should be alright. If everyone is healthy, are starters cam go 1200 innings, and middle relief wont be a problem like it very well could. I also assume a move will be made at the deadline, getting whatever it is we need at the time.... No big blows to our staff=Good season. Our starters are gonna average 240 innings each? That is unlikely...

QUOTE(Wedge @ Mar 23, 2006 -> 01:39 AM) On his best days, when he's hitting 100 MPH, Jenks is the best pitcher we have, bar none. In the playoffs last year, he was killer because tired hitters couldn't catch up to his fast ball. Look at the at-bat against Bagwell when Bagwell just couldn't catch up to the ball. However, he needs his best stuff to be supremely effective and as a result, I suspect he will have trouble with his consistency, which is critical as an everyday closer (if we're as good as expected, we'd probably need him 4 days out of every 7). Cotts is probably the better option right now. That said, with a playoff game on the line, I'd be happy sending either out if they're both rested. When he is hitting 100 he does it for a couple batters, sometimes even an entire inning. The next inning he will pop it at 98 one or twice and the be in the 96-97 mile an hour range. While you would think that is still plenty fast... he doesn't look like the same pitcher when out there for multiple innings. Bagwell against jenks was no fair fair... bagwell was having trouble to catch up to every thing above 94-95 after he came off the dl. Everyone knew if jenks threw strikes he was gonna make bagwell look silly. Over a full season i see jenks wearing down... whenever he pitches on back to back days... his velocity and stuff doesn't look the same... contrary to what the results may have presented last season. I don't know why he is considered to have the best stuff/be out best pitcher because he can hit triple digits.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 23, 2006 -> 01:27 AM) If it ain't broke, don't need to change anything. In my mind, until Jenks can't prove in the regular season that he's not fit for the closer's job, don't need to make a move there. People take too much into ST stats still. You move Cotts from the set-up role, then all of a sudden you've got Jenks who you've demoted cos he's not pitching well in ST, a balky Dustin Hermanson, and Cliff Politte who a lot of people think won't be as good as he was in 2005. I am not saying start the season with cotts as the closer... but i think it is pretty inevitable. Jenks almost always looks shaky to me... especially against right handers. He needs to reverse the batting average against when it comes to right handers and left handers... right handers lit him up... and you face right handers at least 80% of the time.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 07:46 PM) Should we try another "Shingo" experiment with a different Japanese pitcher? Who's the pitcher that said he wanted to play with Iguchi? Naoyuki shimizu and he is just an average pitcher in japan... his stuff is pretty mediocore... not worth looking into him.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 23, 2006 -> 12:54 AM) I don't mind Ozzie playing mind games like this, but there's no way Cotts should become our closer, just because Bobby's out of shape a little. Bobby needs work, he'll get some more of it, and as the last 2 seasons have shown with Koch and Takatsu, if the closer is struggling a month in, then you can make a change. Cotts has been so successful as a set-up guy. As for Iguchi and Uribe, well Iguchi's gotta hit better no doubt. But I wouldn't want to move Uribe away from the #2 spot, when he's done nothing wrong in ST so far. If he produces there, and Iguchi is still struggling, then you can move Gooch further down the order, when you've got A.J and Crede hitting below him. Of course Cintron gives you an extra option as well. And the Thome playing no first base except for an emergency is a no brainer. That's why Ross Gload is the 25th man and why Bucky Jacbosen is down in Charlotte. Why shouldn't cotts become our closer? He is far and away our best pitcher in the pen at this point... yes i know mccarthy and 100 mile an hour fastball is in there. I said it before and i still believe it... he will be the more succesful of the two, jenks and cotts. Didn't i read that jenks has like nine walks to two strike outs? Awful ratio whether he is in ''shape'' or not. He has been brutal from the little bit i have seen of him. 30 saves is still a stretch in my opinion and i have seen people predict as many as 45. Iguchi was a solid two hole hitter for us last year. I still think soxtalk overates him because of his situation (coming over from japan) and being plopped right into the starting line-up. I think ozzie is even crazier for saying he was the team mvp... it is simply incorrect. Iguchi's defense is nothing to spectacular either... his attempt at turning a double play is always amusing to watch. I thought thome was gonna be playing first a couple times a week? What everyone kept saying...

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Mar 23, 2006 -> 12:21 AM) I thought someone mentioned 2003 for ESPN Mag. The only problem with more random visitors is more trolls, but the Mods should take care of them. Even worse are the dumb ass posters that sign up and are allowed to stick around. ^^^ Those>>> trolls.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 23, 2006 -> 12:57 AM) I love Miniclip, I challenge any of you to a game of 8-Ball. It's a favorite of mine, it gets me through long, boring lectures. How about playing real pool? Online pool is so f***ing retarded.

Red heads are not attractive to me in the least.

I think orton will come out and proove that he is indeed the best quarterback in this town. 2006 opening day starter = kyle orton.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 05:10 PM) Other question for people that have mlb.tv....Can 2 people be logged in on the same account at the same time and both watch games or is only 1 allowed? Several people can watch it at once. But i have heard of cases that they shut off someones service when they caught on to it. Last year i know there were two or three passwords shared around here that were used alot.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 04:39 PM) I wonder if all the guests have favorite posters, and they get all caught up in the drama and take sides........ My fan club is pretty huge i am guessing. Bigg3st. 3vAr.

QUOTE(SnB @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 04:15 PM) magic 8 balls dude. Holy crap, this is crazy. Why don't I have my own paragraph? I never even posted in that thread. I have no fame.

QUOTE(JimH @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 10:01 AM) One year into arb. eligibility would mean out of options, no? Or not necessarily? QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 10:13 AM) No idea, hopefully an expert can answer this question. They can do anything they want with him while they own his rights for the first six years... if he has any options left... in lets say his fifth year ( second year of arbitration) they can send him to the minors with no risks of losing him. http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:8QCjzI...us&ct=clnk&cd=1 ^^^ That says the cubs optioned him three times and the athletics did once in mid june.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 22, 2006 -> 03:40 PM) That's the key. Paraphrase, don't copy. If it is paid content, we can be sued and/or shut down. I remember saying this about insider... but i just kept getting told it was no big deal and that i should stop crying about something that doesn't effect me.

What page is it on...?

Logan and thorton will be in it i think.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Mar 20, 2006 -> 10:51 PM) Okay, I give up. I'm gonna use green on this site. Mostly I was just trying to close all the f'n popup windows. But I figured it was a sim of some sort. B/c it was much, much, much, MUCH better than any of the minor league stats I had seen. Weird that you are getting so many pop ups from it... expecially considering the version of netscape i use is a pretty old version...

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 20, 2006 -> 10:44 PM) I'm guessing they're fake. Well, atleast it fooled Jackie Hayes as well. Stats posted are from two years ago--not necessary unreasonable to question their legitimacy. It's just from some random ootp league... which is a simulation.

All the thorton haters...are just that. http://free.hostultra.com/~WSBLeague/p1480.html

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Mar 20, 2006 -> 04:31 PM) Real relationship >>>>>>>>> messing around with a drunk chick. When i see someone messing around with a drunk girl ( like if the girl has no f***ing clue what is going on) i put a stop to it. Have a couple guys around here that get too touchy feeling when they are drinking...

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Mar 20, 2006 -> 04:30 PM) cottonmouth>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hangovers. Never.

Drinking>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>weed. This past weekend i had proves that.

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Mar 20, 2006 -> 04:14 PM) Why did this become it's own topic? And who made that name? Thanks for asking my permission.. It's a good topic that is why... and the mods and admins can do whatever they wish with a thread.

Ray meyer died today.