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QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 03:22 PM) On some level, you have to make pitchers fear you. Be as discerning as you want, you won't draw walks until there's some reason that has been put forth to make someone not want to pitch to you. This is giving the pitcher too much credit. They can't put the ball where they want to at all times. I want hitters who can get favorable counts making pitchers throw them the most hittable pitches they can get.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 02:45 PM) Some people see it that way, and I wouldn't argue heavily against it. But from what I have seen of various reports on his defense, his SS grading seems to be OK, but he's better at 2B and 3B. Bell didn't say that though. And of course, everyone here knows the real reason you want him to be playing SS. It'd be nice to get rid of Ramirez's contract. Dodgers need a SS, right?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 02:29 PM) He did. Then they have played him at 2B and 3B more recently, which are positions of need for the team. Also that gives an added bonus of flexibility. Makes sense to me. My view is if a prospect can play short he should stay there especially when he's only 20.

Not a fan of this philosophy. Bell says Sanchez plays short and second equally as well. Seems if that were the case, he would have started out as a SS.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 08:52 AM) The reality is the media is in the hands of big business, and that's the root of what's f***ing up this country. Big business employs a lot of people in this country.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 10:52 AM) The cap is $120 million this year. $10 million is fair chunk of that. When you look at it by position it's really not a big deal. What are Flynn AND Wilson's cap numbers combined?

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 10:48 AM) Maybe if Miami picks up that last year of the contract. Or at least 1/2 of it. Heck, the Dodgers are looking for a SP, they could get Buehrle to waive his no trade by giving him an extension.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 08:38 AM) On a QB who never plays a snap? I say Flynn ends the season with more snaps than Wilson. Pre-season QB competitions are the silliest thing in pro sports.

Viciedo just can't hit right-handers.

Why was Sanchez moved to SS? Maybe they are trying to boost his trade value, still think the Sox would like to get out of the Ramirez contract.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 25, 2012 -> 03:39 PM) Carlos Lee's usually a -10 or more UZR guy, Viciedo's hanging around -3 already, and he's been in that position for 1.5 years. He hits the same level as Lee, he's already a more valuable player. Lee as a hitter in his prime.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 23, 2012 -> 08:08 PM) Alex Gordon has a .799 OPS. On the other hand, he was already-developed and the #1 draft pick overall in the country. If Viciedo doesn't put up 30+ homers per season and an 800 OPS at age 25-26-27, it would be pretty surprising. We already know Gordon's upside. We don't with Dayan at the major league level. If Viciedo learns to hit right-handers he can have a Carlos Lee-type career.

QUOTE (GoGoSox2k2 @ Aug 25, 2012 -> 01:06 PM) Unless upton was put on waivers and it processed before this deal went down with the dodgers Then, I can't see how he would've gotten past the Dodgers.

If Upton was claimed, I don't see him getting past the Red Sox.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Aug 24, 2012 -> 10:59 PM) See: Does Soxtalk hate Goldstein too? He also says mean things about the White Sox. A case can be made that Soxtalk by and large has a thin skin.

Interesting that the Sox moved Sanchez to SS and Kevin Towers said that they will likely replace Drew via the trade market. Given the right circumstances there's no doubt that I think the Sox would offload Ramirez' contract on someone.

Heard on 35th street tonight from a higher up that Mike Scioscia is the guy the Red Sox want to replace Valentine with and the Angels may just let him go.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 22, 2012 -> 08:00 AM) Not in Chicago. Wrong. Public schools started last week.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 22, 2012 -> 08:17 AM) It isn't about being negative - it is that your reasoning is illogical. Sox development staff has had nearly 100% turnover in the past few years. So equating now to then makes zero sense. It is different staff, different leaders (except the very, very top, who don't actually do any development work anyway), different approach. How many hitters have they developed since 2009?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 22, 2012 -> 08:09 AM) Based on this, I take the stand that Marty is wrong on Thompson, because he was wrong on Kenny Williams this year. I've been wrong on a lot of things.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 22, 2012 -> 07:53 AM) Take a stand on what? He's 21 years old. How many players have definitively defined their careers by then? He's not Mike Trout. There, that's my stand on it. It must be enjoyable screaming negatives constantly from your little mountain top. The most likely outcome for ANY prospect is to fail. I don't understand the optimism for Thompson given his K rate and the Sox track record for developing hitters. If that's negative so be it.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 22, 2012 -> 07:34 AM) At this point? No, that would be as stupid as going on record and saying they didn't. Making a judgement on a 21 year old player in AA who came into the organization out of high school is silly, whatever your opinion on him is. When will you go on record? You prospect guys slay me, take a stand.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 22, 2012 -> 07:19 AM) You must not be paying attention to him then. So you are willing to go on record and say they got it right with Thompson?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 21, 2012 -> 06:27 PM) No he's not, he said "stats don't lie' which is completely absurd, especially for minor leaguers. Scouting is at least equally if not more important than stats when analyzing young players. Most of these guys are working on specific things and making adjustments and their stats will suffer as a result. Taking those stats in aggregate often tells very little. Breaking those stats into smaller pieces and looking for trends is much more valuable IMO, especially when scouting can be used to help explain the change in production. Hammerhead needs to check out Trayce Thompson's stats the last few months and then check his age versus the league and then read a scouting report to understand just how raw this kid was coming out of high school. The kid is progressing well and has plus power potential and athletesism. There are reasons people are excited about him, as he has a legit all-star ceiling, but everyone on this website knows he's far from a sure thing. Most systems have a prospect or two with both a high floor and a high ceiling. We do not have such player, which makes Thompson one of our top 2-3 prospects. That doesn't mean he sucks though and it definitively doesn't mean he has no chance of making it. Hammerhead is right in not being excited about Thompson in my opinion because of the incredibly poor track record that organization in developing hitters. Thompson has shown nothing in his development to make me believe he's the guy they got right.

QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ Aug 21, 2012 -> 02:39 PM) Yeah, you said that before. Not buying it. And the big picture discussion is hitting talent. Kenny Williams is good at finding pitching, but it's all for not if Chris Young and Chris Getz are the best hitters you can draft in 11 years time. Hammerhead Johnson is speaking the truth in this thread.