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Free Castro!

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 08:31 PM) Now go get Fat Elvis (and $) and call it a deadline. Sounds like Yankees are going to get either Dunn or Berkman. And as for Jackson, what scares me is that he had a dead arm to start the year, and now he has another dead arm.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 08:26 PM) Youve been making a strong argument that you dont understand it though. Youve been stating that it doesnt matter, that they can afford it, but you have shown no understanding of the ramifications of the additional salary in which EJax brings. And Im not saying adding salary is bad, I just think his performance will be about the same as Hudson's so when combined with the salary EJax has its an awful idea to make that trade. Why would I give teh Sox mgmt credit if I disagree with the trade? I like that they are proactive, but I would rather have them stay pat if they make bad trades like this. And just because KW has been the most successful GM in your life doesnt mean you shouldnt question his moves or doesnt take away your right to disagree with him. Personally, I'm scared to death of KW trades these days. They've been just awful since the end of 2008.

Yankees to get Dunn? The Rays are convinced that the Yankees will acquire Dunn, Peter Gammons told WEEI.com. Gammons suspects that if the Nationals trade Dunn, the Yankees will acquire him.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 08:06 PM) So say we acquire Myers for prospects, and it turns out that Myers is pitching in Game 4 of the ALDS, in which we are trailing in the series 2-1 to Tampa. Do you think you would find it incredibly hard to cheer for him then? And that goes to any members of the crew that would like to reply... I can pretty much guarantee that there are worse individuals that everyone has rooted for on the Sox that have done much worse than what Myers did. As you said before, these guys are all a bunch of assholes for the most part.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 08:05 PM) It appears are we are going to lose like 5-6 prospects today and all we will have to show for it is 2 month of Adam Dunn and Brett Myers. I can't say that I'm impressed. Thing is, our prospects absolutely suck. Besides for our last three 1st round picks, there's no one that's been in the system that really projects as anything above average. Guys like Morel probably wouldn't be in the top 10 prospects for most teams, and someone like Jordan Danks would be in the 20-30 range.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 06:31 PM) Buehrle, Floyd, Jackson, Linebrink, Peavy, Pierre, Ramirez, Rios, Teahen, Thornton, Viciedo = $76.45M in 2011 Wow, that's AWFUL

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 07:08 PM) Here is what I don't get. If this were really the case... why take the risk of swinging independent trades? Why not do a three party deal all at once? agreed...I think it might be more likely we keep Jackson and then trade some others, like Flowers/Morel to try and get a bat.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 07:05 PM) Why would they tell anyone if they were? How would it be to their advantage competitively? Reporters would discover this

QUOTE (T R U @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 06:01 PM) Do you think its possible that KW really wanted Dunn and the Nationals wouldn't budge so he acquired their main target out of spite? no

The Sox are not getting money back for Peavy's insurance or from last year's trade!!

QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:50 PM) Insurance is paying Peavy's remaining salary this season. We have money to spend. Insurance doesn't pay anything this season.

If Jackson stays with the Sox, I'm totally calling him the EJaxulator.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 06:38 PM) This board is full of hypocrites. Everybody (including me) wanted Javy Vazquez decapitated two years ago. Now we get his clone and it's a great move. I always thought Peavy was the white Javy Vazquez.

KW better had assurances that the Nats would make a trade of Jackson and someone else for Dunn. We cannot have another Bulls/WWW situation on our hands.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 06:21 PM) I would have to think if the Sox get Dunn, they have to be dealing Jackson to get him.. so who is the 5th starter then? Harrell/Torres

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 06:20 PM) Honestly, I think Oswalt is overrated and over the hill. I prefer Jackson over Oswalt. In fact: Oswalt I'm THRILLED the Sox got Jackson, he's been one of my favorite MLB pitchers since his days with Tampa. Congrats, you might be the first person to prefer Jackson and/or Hudson over the best pitcher in the NL from the last decade.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) The funny thing is that many of the same people who worried about the games that Jenks blew, won't see the immediate value that a Jackson would win more games than Hudson in the short term. Problem is Jackson's not a clear upgrade. If it was Oswalt, then I'd agree with you.

QUOTE (RudyLawRules @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:06 PM) Exactly. Have faith in KW...people need to chill. Sorry, but we heard this same thing during offseason relating to DH position. Also, KW's not exactly been on a role the last two years with his trades. Pretty awful if you evaluate all of them (Swisher, Vazquez, Peavy, Pena, Pierre, Teahen)

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:05 PM) But really, it's just flipping a guy who hasn't gotten it done yet in the MLB and a prospect for a guy who has proved he can get it done even though it was last year. I think they're going to keep Jackson. Welcome to the Sox, E-Jax. Same guy who was awful in 2nd half of the season last year. Really, he's like a 3 month wonder.

It's like the AL Central teams are competing for who can make a more awful trade.

QUOTE (daa84 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) holmberg and hudson for jackson...wow thats alot wow, that's f***ing awful...throw in someone like Viciedo and Danks, and you could have gotten Haren.

Please flip him!! If not, makes me dread the Peavy injury even more.

Hope you all saw Harrell is starting for Sox tonight.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 03:56 PM) If this Jackson-Hudson deal actually goes through, we better still get a bat. I'll be pissed as f***ing hell if Kotsay is still our DH come Sunday. Yep, if it's just Hudson and another prospect for Jackson, and then nothing else happens...that would be just a horrible deal.