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QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Oct 29, 2007 -> 03:39 AM) You're worried about OF Defense? Then I got news for you. We've actually got 2 more quality defensive OF's hanging out in winterball this season because they've been struggling with the bats. As soon as Crede is moved out of the way, then you put either Sweeney, or for defensive purposes, Pref. Anderson in CF, and you suddenly have one of the better defensive OF's in baseball with Owens's speed in LF. Sweeney and Anderson don't have much of a future left in this organization.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 29, 2007 -> 03:10 AM) Which IMO seems highly unlikely, don't you? Not necessarily....I think a lot of people assume it will be that group owned by Selig's friend.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 29, 2007 -> 03:07 AM) Aside from Lou, the Cubs make zero sense. 1.Ownership is in question. Nothing will be in place by the time Alex signs a new deal, so a deal that is paying a player 30 million+ really doesn't seem like a possibility. 2. Cubs financial situation. I believe the Cubs already have 75+ locked into 2010. They really are not set up that well for the future, and I don't see them locking themselves into a deal THAT BIG. 3. Ramierez. Obviously thats not going to totally stop the Cubs for pursuing Alex, but Al-Rod would have to be signed before Aram was traded. You have then really minimized the value of Aram, because you have forced your own hand. I really think the Dodgers make the most sense, with the Angels close behind, and the Giants in 3rd. The only way the Cubs could be the team is if Boras knows who will be the new owner, and they've talked.

Interesting timing of this coming out just as the Red Sox are about to win the WS.

Angels, Giants, or Cubs.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 29, 2007 -> 02:08 AM) Even at the trade deadline I wasn't even thinking about Ellsbury. It amazed me at the general ignorance of some people at the trade deadline about certain players' value. When the report of Dye for WMP + Delcarmen (or Masterson) being very close was talked about that morning, there were actually people who thought we weren't getting enough. "WMP strikes out too much and Delcarmen is a reliever. Buccholz and Ellsbury with Beckett thrown in or no deal!" Don't worry, give it a week, and the ignorance will be starting again with the offseason trade market/free agency period.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 29, 2007 -> 01:46 AM) Was Lester ever included in those talks for Dye? Even getting Lester + WMP for Dye at the deadline would've been a coup. I think Lester was a little less highly regarded (that's just my take, I certainly could be wrong) than Masterson and even Manny Delcarmen. Yep -- I'm still thinking about that trade/deal that couldn't be reached/finalized No, Lester is much more highly regarded than those guys as a lefty and a starter. No chance we were getting him or Ellsbury in a trade.

Spoiler possibly: http://www.saveus-222.com/

It's a shame Sweeney is continuing to suck, as I know the Sox were hoping he'd play well this offseason so they could trade him.

Bernard Berrian is having just a pathetic season. It's shocking how much the fortunes of this franchise has changed in just a few months, especially if there's any truth to Urlacher having an arthritic back condition.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Oct 28, 2007 -> 05:52 PM) Danielle manning couldn't follow a trail of breadcrumbs to a ballcarrier. I don't think I've ever seen him take a proper route. He's having one of the poorest games possible. And I don't care what the ref said...that PI was his fault.

Every Griese interception seems to be a big one in the red zone or returned for a TD. Can we just play Grossman for the first 55 minutes of the game, and then put Griese in for the final 5?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 28, 2007 -> 05:31 PM) Since I'm not in the Chicago area and can't listen to sports radio or read the papers, are people calling for Turner's head yet? This is a joke. Every offensive coordinator would salivate at the field position the Bears get on just about every drive, and week after week we can't even consistently get in position for f***ing FIELD GOALS. Griese's late offensive outbursts the last few games have really masked just how awful this offense has been.

Manning and Archuleta just kill this team.

The UGa antics on their opening touchdown has to be one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen.

This is shaping up to be the least entertaining WS I can remember. This has to be one of the biggest mismatches in WS history.

It's really surprising how much some of the power numbers have declined for guys that were on the 2003 Braves team.

Has a team ever got swept by a team in the NLDS that got swept by a team in the NLCS that got swept by a team in the World Series?

That hot babe makes me Kerry Wood.

Very possibly the biggest longshot I've ever seen make the NBA. He was a walk-on who never averaged over 5 ppg in college. He simply made the Hawks on hustle. Couldn't happen to a nicer human being. http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/h...owest_1026.html

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 22, 2007 -> 05:59 PM) Without harping on Grossman too much -- does anyone here think he could handle a drive like that without anyone calling plays? He'd probably throw it downfield immediately and watch it returned for a touchdown. No, I don't think he could have lead that drive. However, I think he completes that deep pass to Hester for a TD. If the Bears don't have that drive yesterday, Griese would have been ridiculed for that weak pass and fumbling on the goal line. Griese did a very good job yesterday of side-stepping the rush. That's something Rex is pathetic at.

It really is astonishing how much this Bears team sucks. I would have never expected this coming into the season. At least we get to see Griese underthrow the deep ball for another few months.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Oct 19, 2007 -> 01:23 AM) Jack also had 5 teammates that averaged at least 9.2 ppg that year. You seem to be under the impression that I said they are exact duplicates. I said they have a similar CAREER paths. Both put up somewhat similar scoring numbers, both are crappy 3 point shooters, Jack shot from the floor better, James turns the ball over less, both can rebound and put up similar assist numbers. Both are pretty good point guards, and James has a chance to be drafted late in the 1st round as well if he has a good junior season and increases his 3 point shooting the way Jack did between his sophomore and junior seasons. Understand...good discussion.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Oct 19, 2007 -> 01:04 AM) Jarret Jack Freshman: 9.5 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 5.9 apg, 3.6 topg, 28%3PT Sophomore: 12.5 ppg 4.5 rpg, 5.6 apg, 3.1 topg, 31% 3PT Dominic James Freshman: 15.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 5.4 apg, 2.8 topg, 30% 3PT Sophomore: 14.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 4.9 apg, 2.6 topg, 27% 3PT If you can see into the future and know that James is going to have a bad junior season then more power to you. You're conviently leaving out FG pct, as well as the fact Jack led his team to the championship game that season. I think even the biggest of Marquette fans would admit that Dom James was brutal the last half of the season.

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Oct 19, 2007 -> 12:33 AM) Take a look at top 15 PG's in the past 5 years. 100% of them are in the NBA or getting ready to be drafted early (Collins, Lawson). Even a top 40 PG recruit like Jack took a similar career path to James. A path similar to James? More like the opposite. J. Jack was phenomenal his soph year.