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How many first pitch fastballs are we going to throw him? That's just pathetic.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:52 AM) Yah, who the hell puts a starting prospect in the bullpen!!!! Nobody does that s***!!!! When the kid says he doesn't feel comfortable in the pen because he can't get a feel for his offspeed pitches, and he's not a flame thrower....maybe he's not a good fit for the bullpen.

QUOTE(Sox It To Em @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:51 AM) 6-5 Yankees through 7. Thank you, New York. There's not a doubt in my mind that the Indians are going to be as big, if not a bigger, a threat as the Tigers come the end of the season.

QUOTE(S720 @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:48 AM) Fathom, you the one who wanted BMAC in. You got your wish. Go ahead and keep on blaming it on Ozzie! Like I've stated, our pitchers ARE NOT DOING WELL right now. Will there be anyone who will point your finger at Cooper? It seems like when our pitchers are doing well, everyone jumps on Cooper's bandwagen. What happens if they are not doing well? When the f*** did I blame Ozzie for what happened to McCarthy? I wanted McCarthy to start the 6th inning, as I think he's a hell of a lot more comfortable starting the inning instead of coming in with people on base. It's truly disappointing to see what we've made McCarthy into this season.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:45 AM) It wasn't Catalanotto, it was a much s***tier DH-only guy who I don't think is playing baseball any more. It was Phelps. Man...our bottom of the order is AMAZING!!!!

QUOTE(Sox It To Em @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:44 AM) I'm not giving up on the season, but clearly this team is suffering from major flaws that need to be addressed. Sometimes, you just have to win with what you have. We keep clamoring for an instant fix....but unless we're going to trade for 4 new relievers, a new SS, and a CF....we're still not going to have a great all-around team.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:44 AM) :rolly Who else in the league has a change up like Santana? The McCarthy-Belliard at-bat reminded me of Cotts-Cattalonatto at-bat back in 2004 in the Sky Dome. Don't you mean Cotts vs Phelps?

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:42 AM) And I'm REALLY f***ing sick of Hawk/DJ talking about "not speeding up bats" when hitters can't catch up to a fastball. Santana sure doesn't care about that logic. Considering McCarthy's changeup, he needs to throw it. If a hitter continues to foul off a fastball, they're eventually going to catch up. You need another pitch thrown it. It makes little sense when they bring it up. McCarthy just can't grip the changeup with a s*** as of now. He's not a reliever, and it already feels like we've retarded his growth this season.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:40 AM) They're what? 1 game behind last year's pace? I'm getting pissed off too, but at least we're not the Royals. You better believe Ozzie is going to rip to the media tonight. We suck right now, and have some glaring holes. However, I'm amazed that some people are giving up on the season already.

McCarthy's going to get the most blame, but Thornton really was pathetic tonight also. Isn't it amazing how many rallies you can have when you get contributions from the bottom of the order?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:38 AM) KW made me sick last winter trading bullpen guys and not getting replacements, and counting on Cotts and Politte to match or come close to last season's performances. And believing Hermanson when he said he'd be healthy.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:37 AM) LOL. Trust me when I say I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:34 AM) Good thing we went to Bmac. Can't get enough Bmac! Do you root for the Sox, or do you root for things to happen just so you can say "I told you so"? With all the stats you pull out, I don't even know why we ever try to even win games.

Haha....this is pathetic. Way to hang the change McCarthy. This guy either has to become a starter, or send his ass to the minors.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:27 AM) Can anybody in our bullpen other than Jenks get somebody out? Nope

Our bullpen is so great.......might want to stop throwing first pitch fastballs to Broussard.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:22 AM) If he pitches tonight, unless this games goes extras, a lot of extras, Ozzie should be fired on the spot. The team was encouraged with his performance last night.

Umm....that was nice.

QUOTE(That funky motion @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:12 AM) Pod loves the called third strike. You take the good with the bad from him. Sometimes he'll draw the walk, sometimes he'll get called out. It would be nice if he was a little better at protecting, but I think that after seeing him play about 200 games, it's the way he is.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:11 AM) Terrible 0-2 pitch? It was down and on the outside corner. Belliard lunged at the freakin ball and rolled it to center. It was a 93 mph fastball on the outside corner. With an 0-2 count and a 2 run lead, you can't be throwing a fastball over the plate....especially to a good fastball hitter like Belliard who will use the whole field.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:10 AM) We're down 2 in the 7th, Gload a lefty who never plays is facing a lefty. Why not a pinch hitter? I think no matter who we put in the 8-9 position, they're destined to fail right now. This team just lacks the mojo that they've had in the past.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:08 AM) This is coming from a guy who isn't even watching the games! I've been home for the last two innings. After reading in the thread, and listening on the radio, I think everyone in the world knew Contreras didn't have anything tonight. I just can't see how you could condone keeping him in even longer in the 6th inning. Ozzie gave him a chance to do well that inning, and he made a terrible 0-2 pitch to Belliard, and AJP definitely didn't help him out vs Boone.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:06 AM) I dont' care. His nothing is better than half the pitchers on this team. He is the best pitcher in the freakin league. He should be allowed to pitch out of his mess. Wow....just wow.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 2, 2006 -> 01:05 AM) Mac sucks too. He gave it up in Toronto. Why would we want him to be out there more than anyone else? Did you really want Contreras to stay out there longer? He had nothing tonight, and Ozzie should have been thrilled to get 5 innings of 3 run ball out of him.

Contreras has his win streak in jeopary....which goes completely against the way Ozzie usually manages.