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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 12:07 PM) Oh come on now. I know people here aren't big Owens fans for the most part, but jeez, the guy has done pretty well since his recent call-up, continues to improve his hitting and has been a pleasant surprise on defense. It amazes me that people wanted BA to keep playing all year while never reaching .200, and some of those same people wrote off Owens before he even got here (despite that he has been far more productive than Anderson was his first year). Believe me, I'd rather have Rowand or Hunter or someone else high caliber out there in CF in 2008, and have Owens as the 4th OF, if that situation can work. But if we can't get that done, I think Owens will probably do OK in a full season out there. He would probably be better than we got out of the CF position offensively in 2005, 2006 or 2007. He's put up a .265/.327/.315/.642 since being recalled and that's including the little hot streak he's had over the past week and a half or so which upped his OPS by about 26 points (.260/.310/.306/.616 when September started.) He's had 8 XBH and has struck out 43 times in 238 ABs so expect him to K over 100 times and maybe have 20 XBH if he's the leadoff hitter next season. He has been bad, real bad and if he's the leadoff hitter for the 2008 White Sox then we'll probably have a top 8 pick in the 2009 draft as well.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 01:08 AM) How bout Torii Hunter and trade for a ss and acquire a veteran set up guy. That won't improve us? It depends. What did you give up in order to acquire the expensive SS and over priced reliever? Did you just weaken the rotation and minor league system? What changes were made to the roster in order to pay Torii Hunter's insane salary? How many high priced veterans were moved in order to add the even higher priced veterans you're acquiring?

The lack of funds won't be the only thing keeping the Sox from making a splash in the free agent market, the biggest problem will probably be the complete and utter lack of talent available. Outside of CF and A-Rod there's NOTHING that can help this team in free agency. And 5 extra wins in September isn't going to help KW lure anyone to the South Side, if the previous year's win% really meant anything Alfonso Soriano, Ted Lilly, Barry Zito and Dave Roberts would have balked at the offers that were made to them by 2 of the worst teams in baseball in 2006. The White Sox's money will be just as green with 65 wins as it would be with 75.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 9, 2007 -> 08:00 PM) I really hope he doesn't start pressing and continues to pound them over to get to 500 this year. Thome doesn't strike me as the "pressing" type. If his 400th was any indication then #500 will come within the week. He hit 6 HR over a 7 game span during the 2004 season to go from 394 to 400, he actually hit #401 the very next day. Homering in 3 consecutive games starting with #496 is a very good sign, Jim tends to hit HRs in bunches.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 9, 2007 -> 06:37 PM) I had no idea about this movie and saw it after reading some of the reviews on rotten tomatoes. I was laughing at all the action movie cliches. Smokin' Aces was a horrible movie as that wasn't funny at all, and I had no idea if it was supposed to be a comedy, a thriller, a drama, or an action movie. Shoot 'Em Up was all about the cliches. I feel the exact same way, agree on all accounts. Smokin' Aces was an absolute joke of a f***ing movie it couldn't decide what it wanted to be, it just dragged for the full 108 minutes with not a single good performance from any of the "big name" actors that for whatever reason decided to participate in the project. I remember the night I went to see it, I actually came on here at like 4 AM just to b**** about it since so many people here were so excited to see it. At least Shoot 'Em made its intentions known from the very beginning and didn't attempt to be anything more than it is. On a related note Paul Giamatti should not have been in this movie. That was just poor casting IMO.

Cardinals are up 4-2 in the bottom of the 6th.

So why can't Jason B. play 3B?

He's probably going to get a similar deal to Hunter, that doesn't seem like the best of investments to me.

The most important question is; who do you replace Mac and Matt with? There are no good free agent relievers and there's not much in the minors to get excited about. You almost have to keep both around by default.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 8, 2007 -> 12:54 PM) I thought he got hit in the head with a breaking ball. I could be wrong on that though. You're probably right I haven't seen that game in a few years, I'll have to find the VHS I have of the game and take a look.

The only 3 guys I absolutely without a doubt would like to see in next year's pen are Jenks, Wasserman and Logan. I won't shed a tear for any of the rest.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 8, 2007 -> 11:39 AM) Sox-flubs 2002. Kerry Wood craps away an 8-0 score. That would be #1 on my list. 2 HR from Pauly after being hit in the head by a Kerry Wood fastball, such sweet revenge. It also produced the coolest bat flip in White Sox history when Konerko deposited his 2nd homerun into the left field stands.

From last nights game thread: QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 7, 2007 -> 10:46 PM) Actually his .211/.291/.289/.580 (87 PA) line against lefties this season begs to differ. He's no where near ready to be a setup man who faces both righties and lefties but as a 22 year old he's already one of the most effective specialists in the game. His updated splits look like this .221/.295/.299/.594. So the .221 BAA vs lefties is cool and all, they're not getting many hits off him but he's also not walking lefties and when they do hit him it's almost always a single (the 78 ISOp proves that out.) Good luck finding many better specialists in the game today.

QUOTE(frankie5angels @ Sep 7, 2007 -> 04:09 PM) Glaus isn't a small fish at all. He is one of the better players in the league. Won an MVP, so I say he is more than just a small fish. After all this today with Ankiel and Glaus, and all the stuff with Bonds, and with everything Canseco said, I've lost alot of respect for the game of baseball. Which is sad because it is the greatest game ever invented. But the players of today and the agents and all the baseball executives have really hurt the integrity of the game, and how I look at it. It's a shame. He's never finished any higher than 30th in MVP voting. So in other words, he's never even come close to winning an MVP award. He does have a WS MVP on his resume but so do David Eckstein and Scott Brosius and I wouldn't call either of them anymore than small fish.

Jenks, Wasserman and Logan is a very nice start to a competent bullpen. Bears Vs Chargers starts up in about 39 hours, 20 minutes.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 7, 2007 -> 11:36 PM) 60% of internet polls are meaningless. If you don't believe so, I can create a poll. Especially when you don't even set them up correctly.

Why hasn't Terrero gotten any work in RF with Dye being out? Why must we be force-fed Erstad on a daily basis when we could be watching a younger, more talented player?

Very pretty slap hitting from Pods.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 7, 2007 -> 10:43 PM) I hate to say this but Logan isn't ready for prime time. Actually his .211/.291/.289/.580 (87 PA) line against lefties this season begs to differ. He's no where near ready to be a setup man who faces both righties and lefties but as a 22 year old he's already one of the most effective specialists in the game.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 7, 2007 -> 10:38 PM) I haven't decided if Thome or Fields will hit the walk off, but one of them is going to. Impossible, he only hits his homeruns in the 6th inning of blowouts.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 7, 2007 -> 10:30 PM) Two game threads would be the solution. Why? No one is even openly rooting against the Sox in this thread, it's all in your head.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Sep 7, 2007 -> 10:28 PM) No Sox fan sits there during the game, hoping we lose, but the postgame "well at least we get a better draft pick" talks after a loss don't bother me (I hope that made sense to everybody else as much as it did in my head). I agree. I was definitely getting excited in the 9th. I was really hoping Danny would find a gap.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Sep 7, 2007 -> 10:27 PM) No true White Sox fan wants the team to lose. Get over it.

How many times has DJ mentioned Erstad's fluky 2000 season this year? 254?

Why did it have to be Erstad?